It's so pretty, too...
Apple is apparently also out of the Mac Pro business as well. RIP Apple.
Apple is apparently also out of the Mac Pro business as well. RIP Apple.
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Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business
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Yes. So say goodbye to the Macintosh, because it's a helluva lot less profitable than those society-destroying telephones Apple's always peddling.
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I hope I'll be proved wrong too. I knew when Apple discontinued the Thunderbolt display that that was the end of displays from Apple, even though a lot of Apple apologists insisted there was a 5k unicorn with an integrated GPU coming down the line. I knew when Apple released Aperture 3 that it was probably the last major version we'd see, even though I myself insisted that they just HAD to be working on an Aperture Pro X. Now I'm thinking that the Pro and the Mini's days are numbered for sure, but I reckon the iMacs will last a few more years, and the MacBooks a few more years after that. But if Apple's inevitable iOS laptops do enough damage to MacBook sales, don't expect Apple to keep the macOS around for nostalgia's sake or because they're afraid of angering their loyal Mac customers. They don't care. They care about profits and about pleasing their shareholders.
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Right. Don't adopt the attitude that a display doesn't have to be attractive, because that's how PC users think. Part of being a Mac user is having better aesthetic taste and being more demanding of design and build quality. Once you lose that, you may as well use a PC. Cause why not?
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No one. Jobs was the spark which drove the company. I remember the last time this happened. I bought my first Mac in 1988. Steve Jobs had recently been booted from the company, and Apple was riding high on profits because its then CEO knew how to milk the Mac, but understood nothing about how to make great products. Huge profits were followed by a slow, steady decline, then endless headlines about "beleaguered" Apple, and finally, when things were darkest, somehow, magically, Steve Jobs returned to the company and turned it around.
That won't happen this time.
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Let me guess...
Nobody was buying the model that was 7 years outdated... so they've discontinued this because there's no demand.
Nobody was buying the model that was 7 years outdated... so they've discontinued this because there's no demand.
Thunderbolt Display came out in 2011, that's 5 years. Thunderbolt 1 only became out-dated 1-2 years ago. Get your story straight.
I think he's referring to the reuse of parts and design work from the 27" cinema display. I was fairly certain we wouldn't see an update, because they discontinued it. Apple never fully discontinues anything without an update announcement unless it's actually gone forever. You can see examples of this where old hardware remains available for a long time prior to an update, whereas things that are removed are not replaced (17" macbook pro, XServe, thunderbolt pegasus raid, etc).
Bingo....Setup to fail. Apple seems to be going the route of Konami. Since Cook on his Asia tour recently, not a far stretch for analogy.
Develop product, kill it in development since it has a has a fan base that wants it so it might sell well....so you can justify to the board why you are making odd decisions that seem to favor, obviously, you wanting to make something else.
Case of konami they are doing this as its clear they want to focus on pachinko machines (think slot machines...now go Japanese anime and such crazy with them and they give out small metal balls, this popular in japan). fan fave pc and console series killed early production, many going wtf, why?.
Metal gear solid was the monkey wrench. Too far into production to eat the loss on. So they make Kojima-san's (lead developer) a living hell, hope this makes back some money but not too much since the game should have issues to not be a smash hit. MGS fooled them, this sold really well, and won critical acclaim. even when it was obvious in the game Kojima-san ran out of money and had konami on his ass to release so its kind of unpolished versus early to mid game.
case of apple it is working. I won't lie....I love my IPP 9.7 more everyday. Its just if this where apple truly wants to go...tell us. lets have them stop being the sack of crap boyfriend (more like fwb) who comes by for a booty call and leaves. Say you love us...lets do more than the quick and sleazy booty calls lol.
Yeah, you all wanting high end stuff desktop setup wise...we can't fake the funk anymore. Go see others for this. Install iTunes sync your ipad and phone....and we all win. I'd respect them for this actually.
It's a staggering concept to me that Apple is ditching out on the Apple branded display and possibly the desktop computer.
I've been to Apple in Cupertino and you don't see a lot of anything not Apple branded. I'm pretty sure the Espresso machine had an Apple logo. It's just hard to imagine conference rooms with LG displays in them.
Or non Apple desktops for the engineers that actually need something that is a desktop.
Long term, what are we going to develop on when Apple has finished inching away from computers in general becuase they just arent as profitable as all those iThingies?
I've been to Apple in Cupertino and you don't see a lot of anything not Apple branded. I'm pretty sure the Espresso machine had an Apple logo. It's just hard to imagine conference rooms with LG displays in them.
Or non Apple desktops for the engineers that actually need something that is a desktop.
Long term, what are we going to develop on when Apple has finished inching away from computers in general becuase they just arent as profitable as all those iThingies?
To everyone saying that apple no longer making displays means they're out of the pro market: Apple displays have NEVER been truly professional grade.
They were a nice option for all in with USB, firewire and such. Most stuff over t-bolt....was nice your drives and wired internet and such was one cable in. mag safe the other connection, clean install you have.
Ties to dongle rant kind of actually. MBP used to be nice clean setup, not so much anymore. Its now voltron, wonder twins funky setup. Combine a bunch of stuff to make things functional. looks and appearances of some kind preference or case of half assed feng shui issue...we can debate on that I guess.
Me, having all the traits of a computer geek will say the later. Includes figurines (us geeks love our figurines lol) and such. Why is figurine A at spot X. because it can't be at spot Y, accept and move on lol.
Right?
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That'll never happen. Apple's going to replace whatever Minis and Mac Pros they have lying around with iMacs and MacBooks. They're not going to give their employees LG displays.
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By that same token, neither have Apple's laptops or towers been.
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Want a stylish, elegant and extremely functional desktop for a creative professional? Get a Microsoft Surface Studio. Screw Apple and their stagnated desktops (I have a trash can Mac Pro that I was quite prepared to replace with another, but it doesn't seem I'll have that chance). My Creative Cloud sub is fully transferable, no issues at all.
Anyone here interested in purchasing a six-core (3.5GHz) / 32GB / 1TB SSD / dual D700? I'll be selling it in December, when the Surface Studio ships.
Want a stylish, elegant and extremely functional desktop for a creative professional? Get a Microsoft Surface Studio. Screw Apple and their stagnated desktops (I have a trash can Mac Pro that I was quite prepared to replace with another, but it doesn't seem I'll have that chance). My Creative Cloud sub is fully transferable, no issues at all.
Anyone here interested in purchasing a six-core (3.5GHz) / 32GB / 1TB SSD / dual D700? I'll be selling it in December, when the Surface Studio ships.
Apart from the hinge and pen gimmick the Surface Studio is really no better specified and no better for a "professional"* than a current 27" iMac, much less next years ones.
*except a "professional" who wants to draw on their screen
Since the topic of this thread is Apple choosing to no longer make displays (or more accurately no longer having LG et al put an Apple logo on their displays) what it is that the free market is not supplying that is "useful or what people need"?
Yeah ... that's kind of the point. Not needing a Cintiq or equivalent with the spaghetti mess of cabling that it also entails (unless things have improved since I had my Cintiq 13).
Never mind the industrial design is more elegant than anything Apple has made since the "Luxo" iMac G4.
I'll put up with Windows 10: I spend my time in either a development environment (which is Visual Studio in a VM more and more often) or in one of the Creative Cloud apps. A desktop OS is incidental as long as it doesn't get in the way of my work.
A "giant slice of professions"? Can you quantify that or are you blowing that up with emotive words?
In any case it's not like was I minimising that, quite the opposite. I was clearly pointing out that, for people who wished to draw on their screen, the Surface Studio indeed has that advantage. Now, I wonder what percentage of iMac sales that represents? Putting aside that the Microsoft pen solution is not particularly well regarded as far as I can see I can't imagine either Cintiq or Apple are particularly sweating this one as far as their bottom lines go.
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You're entitled to like it and I'm not calling your opinion wrong but as far as design goes I do not see the Microsoft pizza box design as more attractive. I don't think it's bad per se but, removed from brand loyalty, given that I do not want or need to draw on my screen, knowing that they are similarly specified in their base variations and asked to choose between these...
Hmm.
Engineers, architects, illustrators, artists, product designers, fashion houses, most modern newspaper layouts, film/TV/computer game/SFX companies...
Cintiqs are not rare... they're the cornerstone of many, many workflows.
I've used the Cintiq, the Surface (on a Pro 3) and the Apple Pencil on a 12.9". In my humblest of opinions the Apple Pencil was the best and most natural with the Cintiq a close second. The MS stylus was clearly inferior to both but for what I need it for (trust me, I am NO illustrator!) it is fine.
Your characterization of Apple displays as LG displays with an Apple logo on them is a gross mischaracterization.
The "market" meanwhile is an idiot. It supplies lots of junk nobody needs, such as everything ever made with the word "smart" in it.
How so? Did Apple have any hand in manufacturing these? Are they Apple display technologies? I don't think so.They're LG panels with a bit of Apple design around them and if you're worried if they will simply look nice on your desk vs. their functionality then I can only say that that doesn't sound very "pro"