Apple Says It's Out of the Standalone Display Business

[Denmac1]

I think the big rub here is that so many of us have been loyal Apple users and now we feel we've been kicked to the curb by Cook & Co.and it's all in the name of profit. We all have a vested interest in the ecosystem and have put lots of $$$'s into specific hardware and software to make the ecosystem hum to our liking.
I bought my 2012 Mac Mini in early 2014 as I saw the writing on the wall for the next 'upgrade' to the latest appliance. I agree with others that state that design and efficiency worked well together. When I first bought my G5 tower back in 2006, I was in awe of its beauty and design. I was later able to afford the 20" Display and I felt like I had the best in design and functionality (yes, I know there are those that don't like the display. My eyes are only so good, so works for me)
IMHO, the existing executive team has run its course and are waiting for options to mature and will soon leave to enjoy the rest of their lives. The obsession with thinness is crazy and the product line is askew.
I am reminded of the book 'Flight of the Buffalo' that basically states when the lead buffalo is killed, the rest of the herd doesn't know what to do. To me, this is what has happened to Apple. My 2 cents and I'll step off the box. Thank you.

 

[jozero]

Kind of wish Microsoft would make a surface monitor. Look at their current design aesthetic and quality. Would be metal as well

 

[MarsViolet]

How so? Did Apple have any hand in manufacturing these? Are they Apple display technologies? I don't think so.They're LG panels with a bit of Apple design around them and if you're worried if they will simply look nice on your desk vs. their functionality then I can only say that that doesn't sound very "pro"

In an Apple Thunderbolt display, the only thing made by LG is the panel. The enclosure and all the connectivity is designed and manufactured by Apple. That's not the same thing as taking a crappy plastic LG and putting an Apple logo on it. You know this too, so why you persist in arguing the point is both mysterious and weird.

Not caring how things look has always been a PC user's position. Sad to hear it coming from an Apple customer struggling to defend what used to be a cool company.

 

[Feenician]

manufactured by Apple

Yeah, no. The rest of your post, and the previous posts in out thread, rests on that premise and is incorrect.

 

[MarsViolet]

Apple is making tonnes of cash yet MR armchair CEOs think they know better. For years MR complains about "Apple Tax" or rebranded tech with apple logo. Now Apple appeases them and they still complain. Mar Rumors... #neversatisfiedever

What used to make Apple cool is that it was never enough to just make tonnes of cash. Job one was to make insanely great products. Nowadays that concept has been flipped. Insanely great takes a back to seat to tonnes of cash in the form of stupid telephones designed for people who don't do anything but text emojis sucking away resources once devoted to making cool computers for people who do stuff.

 

[Feenician]

What used to make Apple cool is that it was never enough to just make tonnes of cash. Job one was to make insanely great products. Nowadays that concept has been flipped. Insanely great takes a back to seat to tonnes of cash in the form of stupid telephones designed for people who don't do anything but text emojis sucking away resources once devoted to making cool computers for people who do stuff.

Yes, everyone who uses an iPhone or iPad spends all day "texting stupid emojis". You must realize garbage like this severely damages any argument you might think you have.

 

[0388631]

I'd say the only people who text emojies all day long (they're called emoticons for crying out loud) are young people such as teenagers who still have the mental maturity of naught. Perhaps MarsViolet should socialize with people his/her age. Or at least ones without a form of self-imposed mental deficiency.
[doublepost=1477893204][/doublepost]And for people not wanting the LG yet, because it is ugly as sin, wait to see what Dell releases. Yeah, it's not glass and metal like Apple, but Dell IPS monitors are fabulous and their warranties are top notch.

 

[MarsViolet]

Yeah, no. The rest of your post, and the previous posts in out thread, rests on that premise and is incorrect.

Your initial argument was that Apple just put its logo on LG displays, which is false.

Can we be done with this dumb discussion now?
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Yes, everyone who uses an iPhone or iPad spends all day "texting stupid emojis". You must realize garbage like this severely damages any argument you might think you have.

It's an exaggeration which rings true.
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I'd say the only people who text emojies all day long (they're called emoticons for crying out loud) are young people such as teenagers who still have the mental maturity of naught. Perhaps MarsViolet should socialize with people his/her age. Or at least ones without a form of self-imposed mental deficiency.

No need to get defensive if it's not true of you.

 

[crashoverride77]

This forum sets a new record every day with stupid people saying stupid stuff. Keep it up people

 

[SpyPhone]

There was a time when you could have a clean desktop without a hodgepodge of different logos looking back at you. May as well get a Windows PC since there in no longer any cohesion between Apple devices.

 

[BlandUsername]

They will axe the Mac mini next then the Mac Pro in a couple of years.

Hopefully we get one more update and I will buy a couple to throw in storage to cover me the next 10 years. I fully expect the hardware I have to be functional to 2020 at least. 2 new ones by 18 would keep me going till we get real AI in the home LOL
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Tim Crook will cancel the iMac and release an iPad 27" with IOS and force all PRO user to work with it

be ready for photoshop for IOS

Boy would that be a fail. IOS is not ready for heavy loads.

 

[richardw]

Very disappointing, I don't want some ugly plastic LG display (no matter how nice the panel) sitting on my desk amidst all of my much nicer Apple stuff. And hell, at $1300, it has the Apple tax to boot. The stand on that LG one has got to be the most uninspired design I've ever seen, it looks like some heavy iron thing that you'd find in your garage, like a bike work stand base or something.

Guess it's a good thing I've been hanging onto my 24" LED ACD all these years. I was happy to pay $900 for this. I wouldn't pay that much for LG anything.

But sadly the 24" LED ACD is not retina, this is the real killer. I'm currently on an old 30" ACD and would like to chop it in for a retina display in the future.
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Apple does not make the iPhone displays, LG and Sharp do. Whats the issue with this?

The iPhone does not say LG or Sharp on the front of it, and the phone was designed by Apple.

Similarly the CPU in a Mac is made by Intel, and I do not want to have an 'intel inside' sticker either.

 

[Razeus]

Pro users. That's a wrap. Start looking into Windows system. iOS has fully taken over Apple.

 

[tennisproha]

Go back and read your own post and extrapolate what I mean

Well if you can't prove your own point that doesn't bode well for its validity does it. Try again.

 

[0092762]

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD88-W-4k-uhd-led-monitor

No, that is a 10bit (8bit + A-FRC) monitor, look at the bottom of the page. I wonder why Apple is not setting this one instead? What is P3 exactly anyway, anyone know?

8bit + AFRC means 8-bit panel with some software tricks for dithering 10 bit color.
Apple 21.5" 4k monitor is 8-bit panel + AFRC, but it actually has higher than 4k resolution, 4096x2304 vs the traditional 3840x2160. The 5K monitor is true 10-bit panel.

 

[nixfu]

Apple is apparently out of the:

imac
mac pro
mac mini
---anything but tables, phones, and low end consumer laptops

business


Weird how they think this is sustainable. They have crappy systems now, they might as well just get out of the mac hardware business altogether and either make OSX work on other intel systems from Dell, Lenovo etc or make it so you can write ios apps on windows and be done with the whole thing.

 

[MarsViolet]

Well if you can't prove your own point that doesn't bode well for its validity does it.

Logic error.

 

[0388631]

Weird how they think this is sustainable. They have crappy systems now, they might as well just get out of the mac hardware business altogether and either make OSX work on other intel systems from Dell, Lenovo etc or make it so you can write ios apps on windows and be done with the whole thing.

You're making the assumption that people who use Windows will want to touch OSX. It's rather simple from what I gather in discreet discussions here, but I can't see the benefit of being able to use OSX on a PC (even though they're both PCs). As a novelty item? It would be interesting, but not something I'd want. And you can bet that Apple will charge money for it.
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Logic error.

Well, if he posts gibberish in his next post, we'll know if he had a kernel panic or not.


Sorry, I had to.

 

[Scrivener]

Seems to me that if not enough people were buying Apple's displays, not enough people are buying Minis or Mac Pros either.

Good point!

 

[JOLoughlin]

Just as a reminder this entire story (all over the internet) is sourced from what The Verge editor Nilay Patel was told by who knows who at Apple. Apple is not in the habit in sharing everything they are working on internally with people that don’t need to know.

The evidence does seem like they are out of the standalone display business and maybe even the Pro desktop business but I still have a shred of hope.

 

[skinned66]

Well to be honest the displays were "pro" and Apple has been out of that business for a while so it was only a matter of time.

 

[MarsViolet]

Just as a reminder this entire story (all over the internet) is sourced from what The Verge editor Nilay Patel was told by who knows who at Apple. Apple is not in the habit in sharing everything they are working on internally with people that don’t need to know.

The evidence does seem like they are out of the standalone display business and maybe even the Pro desktop business but I still have a shred of hope.

The hope I cling to is perspective: that even the base model iMac is more "pro" than the top of the line pro computers were ten years ago, and pros used them just fine to do all of their professional stuff.

 

[potatis]

How hard would it be to just reuse the old Apple display design to put the LG screen in and add a $500 premium?

 

[Viking2]

Remember, Apple did this way back. Even Microsoft if feeling the pain. OEMs don't care about the OS, all they care is selling cheap crap products. Even Microsoft decided to jump in and make the Surface devices. They realize the OEMs just cannot be trusted to make a product that reflect the brand of the OS.
For example, trackpads on Windows laptops are crap. Microsoft has developed the system for OEMs to adopt to have great trackpad and gestures, but no, the OEMs just keep using the cheap crap they have. That's just one example.

I think there is something called Android ....

 

[pika2000]

I think there is something called Android ....

And? Look at what OEMs did to Android, to the point that Google decided to do the Nexus line, and then finally the Pixel. In the early days of Android, everybody was simply making a variation of the G1. Google had to make the Nexus One to nudge the OEMs to do a better phone.