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This backlash could have easily been avoided if they were more transparent in the keynote. They could have said it like this

“MagSafe offers faster wireless charging. Up to 12 watts on the mini and up to 15 watts on the larger iPhones!”
 
I feel like they really dropped the ball by not making this an S year. Magsafe seems pretty half-baked at this point and the compromises they've made to include 5G aren't helping either.

Yes, the way 2020 is going, they should have just called it 2019S and held 2020 back for next year.

Oops, sorry. I misread that. I think you meant the iPhone. Never mind.
 
Lucky for you, but for those of us with wired CarPlay (like my Audi A4), wireless charging is worthless in the car (unless you have wireless CarPlay like some newer cars).
I’ve been looking into wireless converters for CarPlay. The newer ones seem to be pretty good, it’s an extra $130, but cheaper than a new car. But also something we don’t have to worry about until Apple removes the port all together.
 
I think that has to be questioned. You could well be right, especially with some of the monster televisions around these days. But the program has to be squirted from a server somewhere, through numerous hops - possibly round the world - even via satellite, including your router, and a wifi hop - just for you. Add all that up compared with broadcast television signals.

Someone, somewhere, has surely counted it all up.
I agree, but if you are streaming Netflix on your TV or Netflix on your phone the streaming energy costs will not be noticeably different.
 
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I think people are a little fixated on this. I charge my phone at night when it doesn't really matter whether it takes 1 hour or 8 hours. Sure, there are times when you need your phone charged as absolutely quickly as you can, but if this is coming up for you constantly then it sounds like you should just get a chunky battery case and live like that.

But by all means blow a bunch of money on new charging gear so you have the absolute FASTEST CHARGE! Sounds like all the marketing is starting to work.
 
In spite of the almost daily stories about minor downsides to MagSafe, I'm loving mine. Stuck in place with double sided tape, it makes the perfect charging/storage solution in my car. I just tuck the phone under the arm rest, and rely on wireless CarPlay for the trip knowing my battery will be in a good state on arrival.
Hahaha. What a desperate ad.
 
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There is always a little something, something with the big guys such as Apple, AT&T, Verizon etc.....you name it.
 
MagSafe charging sounds marginally more convenient than plugging in a cable, but I'm not sure I understand the point.

Qi chargers, I understand. You lay the phone down on the charger when you're not using it, and if you make a habit of this your phone is frequently being topped off. It's a one-handed operation that requires less attention than using two hands to plug in a cable. And when Magsafe first came out I thought the idea was much the same but with magnets making alignment easier... But it turns out that the Magsafe charger is supposed to stay on the phone.

At that point, what's the real advantage? You still have to use two hands to disconnect it, and if you want to use it while charging you can, but there's still a cable attached, but now it has a chunky and expensive and energy-inefficient puck riding along as well.

I guess if anyone gets around to designing a heavy/fixed base version of Magsafe, that would make sense. One-handed connection and disconnection, and in a car mount you could eliminate fiddly clamps and attach and charge your phone in one go. (I see Belkin is selling a $40 car mount, but it doesn't charge the phone :rolleyes:)
 
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This backlash could have easily been avoided if they were more transparent in the keynote. They could have said it like this

“MagSafe offers faster wireless charging. Up to 12 watts on the mini and up to 15 watts on the larger iPhones!”
I think you're underestimating people's willingness to freak the hell out about something incredibly trivial.
 
MagSafe charging sounds marginally more convenient than plugging in a cable, but I'm not sure I understand the point.

Qi chargers, I understand. You lay the phone down on the charger when you're not using it, and if you make a habit of this your phone is frequently being topped off. It's a one-handed operation that requires less attention than using two hands to plug in a cable. And when Magsafe first came out I thought the idea was much the same but with magnets making alignment easier... But it turns out that the Magsafe charger is supposed to stay on the phone.

At that point, what's the real advantage? You still have to use two hands to disconnect it, and if you want to use it while charging you can, but there's still a cable attached, but now it has a chunky and expensive and energy-inefficient puck riding along as well.

I guess if anyone gets around to designing a heavy/fixed base version of Magsafe, that would make sense. One-handed connection and disconnection, and in a car mount you could eliminate fiddly clamps and attach and charge your phone in one go. (I see Belkin is selling a $40 car mount, but it doesn't charge the phone :rolleyes:)

The main point of MagSafe besides speed of charge is the positive lock it makes to ensure your phone is charging. You no longer have to ensure your phone is perfectly centered for a good charge, it does it itself once you get close enough. And no, you don't need two hands to disconnect it, you can easily push it off as you pick up the phone.
 
My only concern with the Mag charger is the bend points. It's going to last a few months then the connector at the base of the disk will break. It needs a stronger neck to resist repeated bending or removal.
I don’t think this will be an issue. We have had conductors in the the smart keyboards for years and those are opened and closed several times a day and I’ve never heard of anyone having issues. I’d imagine this is following the same sort of construction more or less.
 
I don’t think this will be an issue. We have had conductors in the the smart keyboards for years and those are opened and closed several times a day and I’ve never heard of anyone having issues. I’d imagine this is following the same sort of construction more or less.
Have you heard of lighting cables having issues? Because the magsafe charger has the same attachment as the lightning charger. It's going to be bent because people will put their hands between the cable and the phone.

For me MagSafe solves the problem that eventually the lighting contacts stop working, but it retains the poor connection that is susceptible to issues when it bends.
 
MagSafe charging sounds marginally more convenient than plugging in a cable, but I'm not sure I understand the point.

Qi chargers, I understand. You lay the phone down on the charger when you're not using it, and if you make a habit of this your phone is frequently being topped off. It's a one-handed operation that requires less attention than using two hands to plug in a cable. And when Magsafe first came out I thought the idea was much the same but with magnets making alignment easier... But it turns out that the Magsafe charger is supposed to stay on the phone.

At that point, what's the real advantage? You still have to use two hands to disconnect it, and if you want to use it while charging you can, but there's still a cable attached, but now it has a chunky and expensive and energy-inefficient puck riding along as well.

I guess if anyone gets around to designing a heavy/fixed base version of Magsafe, that would make sense. One-handed connection and disconnection, and in a car mount you could eliminate fiddly clamps and attach and charge your phone in one go. (I see Belkin is selling a $40 car mount, but it doesn't charge the phone :rolleyes:)
One of the more appealing parts to me is easy attaching. I regularly plug and unplug my phone when I'm in bed and I hate fumbling in the dark trying to get the lightning connector to go in. I like the idea of being able to quickly attach a charger and continue using my phone.

Decent charging speeds are still kind of a must to make that worthwhile over wired charging. I can't say disconnecting has ever been an issue for me, whether one-handed or two.
 
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One of the more appealing parts to me is easy attaching. I regularly plug and unplug my phone when I'm in bed and I hate fumbling in the dark trying to get the lightning connector to go in. I like the idea of being able to quickly attach a charger and continue using my phone.

Decent charging speeds are still kind of a must to make that worthwhile over wired charging. I can't say disconnecting has ever been an issue for me, whether one-handed or two.

I use qi precisely because lighting isn't reliable. Just watching a movie the phone buzzes over and over as it enters into charging mode. I get that the cable wears out, but with wireless charging that never happens.
 
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I use qi precisely because lighting isn't reliable. Just watching a movie the phone buzzes over and over as it enters into charging mode. I get that the cable wears out, but with wireless charging that never happens.
I've had occasional issues with cables too. But I've also on countless occasions come back to my phone to find it got jostled or misaligned on the qi charger and has not charged at all. I am using the "puck" style ones, so I guess the more cradle-y options would be better for this.
 
I've had occasional issues with cables too. But I've also on countless occasions come back to my phone to find it got jostled or misaligned on the qi charger and has not charged at all. I am using the "puck" style ones, so I guess the more cradle-y options would be better for this.

Hmm. I use the flat Samsung qi and never had an issue, minus cat beans. Meanwhile even brand new Anker cables wiggle in the charger such that I don't trust they are working.
 
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