No they’re trying to say “the old keyboard fits absolutely fine, even with a screen protector fitted but please sell it for a loss and buy our brand new shiny one as that will increase our profits”.
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Apple Says New 12.9-Inch iPad Pro is 'Functionally Compatible' With Older Magic Keyboard, But Fit May Be Imperfect When Closed
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These arguments are asinine. Apple is a business first and environmentalist and everything else second.
At least apple didn’t slightly shift where the camera bump is or some stupid stuff like that. I think at least this decision is fine.
At least apple didn’t slightly shift where the camera bump is or some stupid stuff like that. I think at least this decision is fine.
Well, the keyboard _is_ compatible and does not stop working with the new iPads. It might (!) not be a perfect fit.
All in all not a good reason to throw away a $349 keyboard.
But if some customers keyboard are on the tighter end of the tolerance scale, they may not be able to close it, so there will be a percentage of customers who will have to get a new keyboard, which is a shame for them.
Also I can see a lot of people getting keyboards from third parties, thinking it’s the new one but getting sent the old one, it’s going to cause a few issues along the way.
I guarantee you it will be able to close, just not perfectly. Like when you buy cheap accessoires that somewhat fit but you just notice Apple didn't make them. That's probably how it will look and feel.
That's because a lot of people don't _need_ a new charger for their new devices, exactly because they usually don't throw away the old one. It's also not so much that the chargers would end up in landfills, but Apple's argument back then was that not producing and shipping the new chargers would reduce environmental impact.
the quotes came from people that had briefings and apparently were told that. and let’s be honest, if you can’t close it properly it’s not really compatible from that standpoint. What if it damages the device? Think apple will cover that?
Uh oh, Verdi1987 got emotional and weren't and disliked every single comment I made. Reeeeeeeeee!
Other Apple rumors sites are so much more civilized. Why do we slum it here with people like that?
Here is MacRumors original article and forum thread on this topic from one week ago:
New 12.9-inch iPad Pro Not Compatible With Older Magic Keyboard
Always enlightening to see some decisive incorrect reporting and misinformed indignant rage about Apple.
New 12.9-inch iPad Pro Not Compatible With Older Magic Keyboard
Always enlightening to see some decisive incorrect reporting and misinformed indignant rage about Apple.
How many people with a previous iPad Pro really even upgrading yet I still have the first one with Face ID and plan to hold on to it for at least 2 more years
… if given to someone that, primarily, WANTS the device to end up in a landfill. If, even in the slightest, they do NOT want it to end up in a landfill, they can return it to Apple which will recycle it free of charge.
Yes, unfortunately, there are a LOT of people that have determined that they desire nothing more than to ensure all of their items end up in landfills. Apple’s not in a position to do anything about those people.
It absolutely matters. There have been issues that the MacRumors folks have been up in arms about that Apple has done something about. However, that was MORE due to the issue being widespread BEYOND MacRumors than due to any heft MacRumors commenters have.
Limiting the erosion in trust of the brand among the largest number of potential Apple purchasers possible is CRITICALLY important. Limiting the erosion in trust of the brand specifically on MacRumors? Not so much.
A shop called Saturn. Almost 40% Discount. But Sorry, im from Germany so i guess this information might not help you.
100% agreed, and but user feedback is universal. It doesn't have to happen on MacRumors, it could happen anywhere in the internet, if a media outlet picks it up, then it spreads. There are countless times we see news on the MacRumors homepage where MacRumors quotes users "some users are seeing..." "some users are experiencing...", and other media outlets report on the issue as well.
Going back to the example I mentioned earlier, regarding the iOS throttling battery fiasco, it was discovered by a user on reddit. It then spread like wildfire all over.
To be clear, MacRumors is my favorite place to discuss stuff for fun, sometimes discussions may have repercussions, sometimes they may not. And that's fine.
User/media buzz reaches Apple and unfortunately it's the only way Apple reacts promptly.
They should have mentioned this during the keynote there are no excuses, also had to edit this post to say that i'm getting bored to see so many apologists and apple employees on sock accounts trying to save face after every outlet including grandma's posted that it won't be compatible with the previous Magic Keyboard accessory.
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If my old 2020 MK doesn't fit well enough for my use, on my now ordered 2021, there are cheaper and interesting alternatives to Apple's MK.
Now that I thought it through I feel a little better about the, however slight, incompatibility of my 2020 MK with my future 2021 iPad. Why? Because in fact it got me to consider third party alternatives. Granted the MK is perhaps the best of the best. But, I would have liked some advancement of features if they are going to keep the high price.
I am tempted by this Logitech Combo Touch for the 2021 iPad Pro (with shortcut keys). It makes a direct connection, not BT. Large trackpad!
Only downside is the stand hanging off the back of the product. So use on the lap might be tricky. Oh, and it is cheaper than the MK at $199.99.
www.logitech.com
Watch the live action demo on the above page, under, "This is not a Laptop. It's so much more." Weirdly tricky to get it to re-load the moving graphic after watching it once. I have to reload the link.
Of course there are others.
www.brydge.com
Anyone else thinking to replace their 2020 MK with a third party offering for the 2021 iPP?
Now that I thought it through I feel a little better about the, however slight, incompatibility of my 2020 MK with my future 2021 iPad. Why? Because in fact it got me to consider third party alternatives. Granted the MK is perhaps the best of the best. But, I would have liked some advancement of features if they are going to keep the high price.
I am tempted by this Logitech Combo Touch for the 2021 iPad Pro (with shortcut keys). It makes a direct connection, not BT. Large trackpad!
Only downside is the stand hanging off the back of the product. So use on the lap might be tricky. Oh, and it is cheaper than the MK at $199.99.
Combo Touch for iPad
Shop Combo Touch for iPad. Compatible with iPad (7th, 8th, 9th, 10th gen & A16). Backlit, Multi-touch Trackpad
Watch the live action demo on the above page, under, "This is not a Laptop. It's so much more." Weirdly tricky to get it to re-load the moving graphic after watching it once. I have to reload the link.
Of course there are others.
Brydge MAX+
Wireless Keyboard with Trackpad for iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd, 4th & 5th generations), iPad Pro 11-inch (1st, 2nd & 3rd Gen), and iPad Air (5th & 4th Gen)
www.brydge.com
Anyone else thinking to replace their 2020 MK with a third party offering for the 2021 iPP?
If that's what they are saying, then I would not use "may". I would say the old Magic keyboard does not properly fit.
I think the real cornern for me is:
1. Will the screen be damaged (will Apple balk at letting me use Apple Care for any damage related or unrelated)
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2. Will the iPad fall off of or out of the 2020 MK while opened our closed.
If there is just a ugly gap I guess I could live with it, and take my time deciding whether to buy the new MK or a third party case.
I agree. I would want a much clearer picture of what any the "may" actually means.
I'm perplexed as why Apple can't be more clear about what fit issues, and functional issues that can arise over using the old MK. I think Apple owes its customers at least that. How about a video demonstration of the pros & cons of using the old MK on the 2021 iPP Apple? I guess this will be up to YouTube to be the arbitrator on this.
I would like to think it is more than profit that is holding Apple back from making a statement. If it isn't I just don't know what keeping this information so "iffy".
They were completely clear that there are no functional issues, so I’m not sure what functional issues you want them to be more clear about.
As for fit, the new ipad is thicker. So you really can’t figure out what the potential “fit issues’ might be? Ever overstuff a hot dog bun with too many toppings? There you go. That’s the fit issue.
So I just took .5mm worth of paper and put it between the keyboard and the iPad 2020 and while it does still work it doesn’t close completely flat if you don’t have weight on it. So it does “functionally” work but it’s not ideal. It probably will warp the keyboard eventually if you pack it tight in a bookbag.
Is it worth the risk? Probably for the $200 or so difference but I’m still not doing it. I’m going to the 11 inch and saving some money.
Is it worth the risk? Probably for the $200 or so difference but I’m still not doing it. I’m going to the 11 inch and saving some money.
You might of misread my comment. I’m not saying someone should be able to return it. I mentioned that $349 for a product that is less than a year old, doesn’t work with the next iteration of iPad Pro is a bit of a disappointment as it’s not as disposable as an iPhone case.
If you look historically at they keyboards Apple makes for it, you would see that they are compatible with newer iterations. Even the Smart Keyboard Folio that already was released works with the new one without issue. It is only the 12.9 inch version of the new iPad Pro. Apple tweaked it slightly just for that variant.
It’s short-sighted from a product development perspective to not take that into consideration. At least they dropped the price $50 I guess.
