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This will just create 2 versions of iOS, one for Europe, that allows these career politicians to spy on their own citizens, and one for US, with real privacy in mind.
The US can use gag orders to make Apple spy on its customers and Apple will not even be allowed to talk about that. Privacy laws in the US are much weaker than in the EU. The US even publish mug shots.
 
The app would still have to meet EU privacy standards.
Yes, but the argument is "no user will be forced to leave the walled garden". And that isn't true. If I wanted an open ecosystem I would have purchased an Android device. The EU doesn't need to "fix" that for me - the competition ALREADY exists.

What the EU and its defenders don't understand is that the reason people buy into Apple's ecosystem and stay there is because Apple's rules result in better products and user experiences, not because the rules hinder competition.
 
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That's not what that report says, now is it? Opening up APIs for AirDrop and AirPlay to other OEMs doesn't mean Apple has to hand over anything, these other OEMs still need to build it themselves.
It means they can no longer user AirDrop and Airplay as differentiating features that encourage people to stay in Apple's ecosystem. That's theft of Apple's intellectual property.

To use an analogy, it's like saying that because you let a friend stay in your guest bedroom for free you have to let others you don't want in your house stay in your guest room for free. If that was the law, you probably wouldn't let friends stay over, now would you? So why should Apple continue to offer these features in the EU?
 
Hi. I'm the EU. Give me your money and technology. That will make life will be fair for everyone, particularly those that haven't spent any time creating a business.
You jest, but that’s actually quite in line with many European countries values. People are a lot less capitalistic and entrepreneurial here. But feel very entitled after somebody else takes the risks and makes it.
 
Damn the EU and the DMA. You're the reason why Apple has had to repeatedly delay and push back the release of Apple Intelligence and improvied Siri features that were annouced at WWDC in June 2024. It's not due to Apple's incompetence.
I would kiss the ground if the EU and the DMA would ban Apple Intelligence for good but sadly I have to disable it again and again on my Mac.
 
Yes, but the argument is "no user will be forced to leave the walled garden". And that isn't true. If I wanted an ecosystem I would have purchased an Android device.

What the EU and its defenders don't understand is that the reason people buy into Apple's ecosystem and stay there is because Apple's rules result in better products and user experiences, not because the rules hinder competition.
I've got an expensive third party glucose checking medical device that can't give proper alarms, and timely notifications at night because of Apple's OS rules that have morphed over the last few years -Apple Watch, and Standby. Go on. Tell me more about better product and user experiences...

*AW Complications do not refresh every five minutes (Work around using Apple Calendar, limiting watch face choice)
*Standby apps, including Apple Calendar refresh every fifteen minutes, and because of timing may not present accurate data.
*Dynamic island can kind of get around this limitation, but data location is small, and require automation to refresh use of dynamic island every six hours because of OS limits. When the refresh occurs, the control appears full screen in standby mode, removing any other useful app like a clock from the phone screen.
*If wearing Apple Watch at night, and using Standby, alarms are notably muted to the watch device, which depending on the location of said watch might not be heard.

I'm certain there are similar nightmare scenarios on Android, but I refuse to believe Apple's product necessarily has better user experience.
 
It means they can no longer user AirDrop and Airplay as differentiating features that encourage people to stay in Apple's ecosystem. That's theft of Apple's intellectual property.
Wrong, the ability to use AirDrop with Android or Windows would make iOS and macOS much, much more useful. Apple used to be good with open standards, Bonjour is just mDNS and DNS-SD, AirPrint is IPP. Apple was interested to move the entire industry forward. Now they are trying to a be nationalist island and it sucks.
 
Developers have the right to access all the same hardware features Apple apps do.

Apple also has the right to CHARGE developers to access THEIR IP.

Bad precedents trying to be set by both sides.
 
How does a "Smart Thing Notifications" API make the platform less stable?

Unless you're insinuating Apple is literally incapable of making interoperable. That'd be kind of funny honestly.

As soon as a competitor demands Apple allow them to load their own drivers into iOS, the EU will rule that Apple must let them. Game over for stability.
 
Wrong, the ability to use AirDrop with Android or Windows would make iOS and macOS much, much more useful. Apple used to be good with open standards, Bonjour is just mDNS and DNS-SD, AirPrint is IPP. Apple was interested to move the entire industry forward. Now they are trying to a be nationalist island and it sucks.
Of course if AirDrop was everywhere it'd be more useful. I don't think anyone would argue that. What I am saying is it should be Apple's decision to share any of its inventions/features with other companies, not the EU's. If Apple wants to use AirDrop to differentiate its products and give users additional reasons to stay in the ecosystem they should absolutely be allowed to do so.

Should Disney be required to allow Universal Studios to create a Star Wars theme park ride without compensation? No? Then why should Apple be forced to give AirDrop to its competitors? In both cases we're talking about intellectual property that is used to differentiate product offerings.
 
Apple knows that this means they actually have to innovate to stay ahead of the pack now. Charging fees and growing their business with these fees has been their golden walled garden for a decade. Apple has been a freight train speeding through a valley of protifitablity since Jobs. Now that there's a massive hill, that inertia will slow and maybe even crap out. Tim Cook, it's time to haul ass. Nothing easy was ever worth anything.

I want the devices you decided to shelve like the car, AirPower, airport basestation mesh system HomePods with touchscreens, smart glasses that don't look like ski goggles, software that doesn't hit like the new photos app... etc.
 
And Apple is 100% correct. EU doesn't care about end users or understand why Apple is popular with users in the first place. Some of the rules:


Do work for your competitors for free!


Can't tell your users that the third parties might not be as safe as secure as Apple!


You can't use new features to differentiate your products, the second you invent something for yourself you have to let others use it


You have to help your competitors design their competing products, for free!

This blatant theft of Apple's intellectual property will chill innovation. I hope Apple is able to get large parts of this overreach overturned in the European courts.

Spot-on assessment.
 
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