Nobody seems to have touched upon this... But do you realize that the RX580 card that you get with the Mac Pro doesn't have its own display outputs? If you want to output to three displays, you will be using both of the backside Thunderbolt ports PLUS one of the top ones (now, that's gonna be convinient, a DP-cable going from the top of the machine to a monitor...) And then you have ONE TB output left for everything else. This seems insane to me. Unless it was done to make people buy the more expensive graphics card... AND to encourage you to buy an extra I/O card as well. Wow...
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Can you please explain how optimizing software to perform better justifies charging $6000 for said lower-end specs?
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Not at all.
Depending on your use case, one or more categories of CPU/GPU/RAM will either be upgraded to some extent, maxed out, or left at the base spec.
Why would you want to make a customer buy a higher-end spec than they need? (Unless you’re an Apple shareholder)
You missed the point. The cost of the base model specs should be WAY LOWER. Let people then spend thousands more to upgrade what they want.
If I hadn't just bought a 10,000$ iMac Pro, I would buy one of these at a similar price point. I guess I am one of your dozen.
Oh wait, there are more people that use Macs than just music creators, video editors, (artists et al.). There are developers and many other tech fields that exist too! And they are all just as technically demanding (if not more) than musicians and video editors!
Who knew?
I'm a plastic surgeon in a major metropolitan where image is everything. I want the shiniest, latest and greatest (and most unattainable) Mac sitting on my desk.
I deal with have this mentality unfortunately quite often. One family friend at another friend's jewelry store ready to drop $150k on a particular watch, next thing the owner of the store says I've got this special one, only three quarter million; the guy ended up buying both. At least he wears the latter every single day!
I agree 100%...the balance, tilt and height adjustments are probably about 5 cuts above the standard Amazon Basics arm and a couple ahead of Ergotron. I think the presenter mentioned that they were patented or patent pending.
This whole argument about the Mac Pro pricing, display and stand pricing will eventually dissipate a bit, especially once it ships. However, after reading $#!7posts on the current gen MacBook Pro for the past 2-1/2 years, they won't go away after it goes on sale as Apple is not going to change course on this new iteration of the Mac Pro. The proof is in the pudding and I cannot wait to see how it unfolds. However, Apple is going to have to pay attention to how it unfolds and keep the Mac Pro relevant instead of simply releasing it into the wild to see if it survives as they often do after the initial rush of excitement. I think the Pros who are on the fence are going to take a wait and see to make sure Apple's Pro commitment is there. If it's there, I suspect a lot more Pros will suddenly find the budget to purchase one. Those who thought Apple was going to give them a $3,000 cheese grater will still be letting us know their displeasure, same thing has happened over three straight updates to the MacBook Pro.
The important question is:
Who is going to be the first to clog the front up with cheese and take it to the Genius Bar?
"I don't get it, this thing doesn't work at all as a cheese grater, yet thousands of people are talking about it online."
It's only a matter of time, folks.
Who is going to be the first to clog the front up with cheese and take it to the Genius Bar?
"I don't get it, this thing doesn't work at all as a cheese grater, yet thousands of people are talking about it online."
It's only a matter of time, folks.
I just came here for people griping about the price - typing on their MacBook airs.
Seriously, you need to be in one of the fields that need this horsepower to appreciate it. I do not....however I do need a top end MacBook Pro.
Seriously, you need to be in one of the fields that need this horsepower to appreciate it. I do not....however I do need a top end MacBook Pro.
It'll make the decision to can the whole line in 5 years time very easy. "Look no one bought it"
3 more months for us to sell our kidneys.
(Okay, okay, I know that this product is not for us and is for the real pros
HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE SANCTITY OF THE VIDEO EDITING PROFESSION WITH SUCH A JOKE!
lol ^_^
Because the optimization allows the work to be done efficiently. I don't think you are the target audience for this computer. The people (companies) who will be buying this won't bat an eye at the price, they won't even think twice. If it lets them do their job faster than they can now then its a no brainer. For pretty much every single person complaining about the price, they were never going to buy this machine anyway so why should apple care what they think?
Some idiot with too many followers on youtube will do it for science.... and clicks...
...and can someone PLEASE come up with something a little more original than "Cheese Grater"? Pretty much every single poster that says that seems to think they're the first who ever thought of it!!!
No you missed the point. The base unit contains everything needed to support a fully maxed machine: 8 PCIe slots (including three x16 and one x8 double wide slots, which also support the two 475W MPX modules that include four additional Thunderbolt 3 ports each), 12 RAM sockets, 1.4kW power supply, low-noise enclosure, Afterburner support, 2x 10GbE ports, T2, etc.
$6,000 is not too much for a Xeon/ECC workstation platform with the Mac Pro’s capabilities. People have been complaining about Apple’s prices for 35+ years, nothing new. And compared to the 2013 $3,999 6-core/16GB cylinder—about $4,400 in today’s dollars—it’s a much better value.
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Oh, I appreciate it just fine. Though, I'll join the club of frustrated power users that would like a quiet desktop with room for plenty of expansion. The Mac Mini and iMac simply don't cut it. Who the hell wants a mess of dongles and external boxes? Small time video and music editors would likely benefit from such a machine to0, since a couple of PCIE slots goes a long way vs dongle box hell.
I really do not see this as expensive, if we assume the total cost of $30K which will last at least 4 years of use it will come out costing as low as $625/month.
If you wedding photographer would charge $1000 per wedding and he does 4 weddings a month thats $4000, you see how this works?
If you wedding photographer would charge $1000 per wedding and he does 4 weddings a month thats $4000, you see how this works?
I get what you're trying to say and I agree though if a wedding photographer buys this, they're a moron. That would be like a neighborhood teen mowing lawns deciding to buy a tractor. They should buy an iMac or Mac Mini or Macbook Pro. The Mac pro makes no sense for photographers. The only people who actually require the power of this machine will not bat an eye at the price because it isn't unreasonable for what their budgets allow for.
no one thinks that
"Cheese Grater" for the Mac Pro is a term that's been used to describe it since the original "cheese grater" mac pro of the 00's was released. this naming isn't new and it's just the easiest way to describe it
Just like everyone now calls the cylindrical Mac Pro the "Trash can Mac Pro". it's just a common nomenclature picked to describe it for clarity purposes.