Parallels Desktop in full screen shouldn't have some of the menu behind the notch. Hopefully.
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Apple Says Notch is a 'Smart Way' to Give Users More Space for Content on New MacBook Pros
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He would have ordered them all to come up with a miniaturized version of a 1080p camera and sensors.
I had that on a Dell and it was awful.
The could have also just did a hole punch! Imagine that.... you know, since it doesn't have Face ID.
And only apple sells the two in bezel in full screen mode as a selling point.
You mean the ones that already exist in literally every other notebook.... for like, years and years and years???? Those?
Then there would be 1000+ post complaining that Apple took out the camera. I would guess a number of users only need a webcam periodically, which makes such a solution a pain, especially when traveling. I use my iPhone with a light and tripod for certain webcasts, but otherwise my Mac's built in is just fine.
All Apple has done is made the space around the notch that was always there but hidden by a bezel usable for the menubar to give users a bit more screen space. The whole notch issue is easily solved by adding an option to Monterey to move teh menubar below teh notch and make the space beside it black.
With Apple's engineering genius, you'd think they'd find a way to you know.... put the light sensors elsewhere like in the bottom bezle.
Agreed. I thought these looked awkwardly tall and here they actually are. Everyone is acting like this is some new feat... Apple is years late this party. Everyone else has managed 1080 cameras and ambient light sensors without notches for 5+ years.... glad they got to the party as 4K is now getting put into other products without a freaking notch and big forehead blacked out on the display.
You're so woke, it must be awesome. I bet you don't fall for anything. I can't wait to be as woke. Last night i just realized ice cream is a scam. Am I getting there yet?People don't like getting hit in the head with a ballpeen hammer, they will get used to it (or will have to get comfortable with getting stabbed in the foot continuously).
I'm curious to see what other silly notion Apple can foist on consumers. I can't think of anything that Apple could do that wouldn't be received with open arms by the Apple faithful.
- Dongles better than built-in ports
- Dongle for headphones instead of dedicated 3.5mm jack
- Having a notch is better than not having one
- Touch bar better than physical keys
Do you know what is in that space? The cabling that connects the display to the video controller and the backlight layer. It needs to flex and bend as the screen move. If you restrict that space, you run the risk of the cables crimping and get problems like the stage light effect that the last version of MBP sometimes had.
Yes, actually. Any of those could have been great, and there was no way to tell without using them. I'm currently typing this on one of those 2016 MBPs that introduced the TouchBar and the butterfly keyboard. I had no problem with the keyboard until it started failing (I got a free replacement). I certainly wouldn't have judged it by a literal photograph. And the TouchBar had potential, too, but just wasn't worth the added complexity and usability compromises. Again though, these weren't black and white things that could just be known up front. Sometimes you have to try stuff out.
I seem to remember a lot of people hating the removal of headphone jacks on the iPhone, too. But that worked out just fine (IMO). You have to try stuff, not just assume it sucks because it's new.
Steve Jobs also said we didn't need an App Store because we could just do it all with web apps. The man made mistakes. Let's skip the revisionist history, please.
Reference: https://9to5mac.com/2011/10/21/jobs-original-vision-for-the-iphone-no-third-party-native-apps/
This is the very obvious explanation for it that very few people seem to have latched onto.
The notch is not for a future Face ID. That may not ever come to a MacBook because it’s not as useful in a laptop.
The notch is for a similar tech tho, one that will detect hand gestures and other controls. Apple already has tons of patents for this, all related to AR ambitions.
The notch is for a similar tech tho, one that will detect hand gestures and other controls. Apple already has tons of patents for this, all related to AR ambitions.
I would argue that FaceID is vastly more useful on a laptop than on a phone. I have avoided upgrading from my iPhone 8+ because I like TouchID where I don't have to literally point the phone at my face to unlock it. With my laptop, if I'm using it, my face is pretty much pointing at it, so there's basically 0 effort there and it'd be pretty cool.
TouchID => better for phones
FaceID => better for laptops
It's unfair to hold Steve on this forever. He would have adjusted as things changed. There would have been little choice eventually. Nobody in the early days of smartphones could have seen where we are now.
Great! Apple officially sided with notch lover. This means there will never be a fix for people who prefer full menu bar, nor it will provide workarounds should issue arise. Sad day folks, sad day. But not for notch lovers. They can rejoice with apple overlord.
Rip full menu bar. You will be missed, just like people missed MagSafe on Mac for over 5 years until now.
I’m sure that Apple will do that once they can get the tech to work. It doesn’t work well enough yet.
App stores for Palm Pilot and Windows CE/PocketPC existed since the late 90s/early 2000s. Places like Handango used to sell PocketPC apps. So we could see where things were going back then. Apple unified everything under their version of the appstore (no more serial numbers or activtion codes/servers needed anymore.) But the Apple appstore was actually just catching up to what already existed under PalmPilot and early Windows phones.
That's sort of my point, though. People on here are always "Steve would never this" and "Steve would never that". Horse bologna!
My whole thing is for people to chill out and give stuff a try, and give suggestions with experience rather than deciding up-front. It's like trying to evaluate the UX of a UI from a single screenshot. Doesn't work!
The menus just skip that space and are drawn on the right side. Apple did think this through, despite what some here would have you believe .
The notch is not good design. It attracts the attention and thus decreases your focus on the work area. It’s as simple as that, it detracts from the ‘smooth and simple’ useability of the machine which has traditionally been Apple’s hallmark. I reckon including it was an awful decision.