Apple Says Notch is a 'Smart Way' to Give Users More Space for Content on New MacBook Pros

[DesertDrummer]

The notch is not good design. It attracts the attention and thus decreases your focus on the work area. It’s as simple as that, it detracts from the ‘smooth and simple’ useability of the machine which has traditionally been Apple’s hallmark. I reckon including it was an awful decision.

You cannot possibly know whether it attracts your attention and decreases your focus on the work area without actually using one of these. I understand you think it will do that, but you cannot know that yet, unless you got ahold of a super-secret one of these before everybody else did.

 

[Rafterman]

Never forget...

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I can't forget because I live that every day. I actually have two mice, so that I can rotate one out for charging.

 

[topdrawer]

The menus just skip that space and are drawn on the right side. Apple did think this through, despite what some here would have you believe .

my apps with the most menu items are Maya and Zbrush and neither of them utilize the menu bar at all. they have them in a secondary menu bar built into the app window like a windows app (gross).

but anyway. the regular menu bar is already too small for a lot of apps, it is no big deal.

 

[hot-gril]

It makes more sense for macOS than for the iPhone since there's already a menu bar up there partially wasting space.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

The notch is not good design. It attracts the attention and thus decreases your focus on the work area. It’s as simple as that, it detracts from the ‘smooth and simple’ useability of the machine which has traditionally been Apple’s hallmark. I reckon including it was an awful decision.

So is that Apple’s hallmark? Fantastic hardware?

 

[hot-gril]

Never forget...

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And that's not even the worst thing about that mouse!

 

[jk73]

The notch is not good design. It attracts the attention and thus decreases your focus on the work area. It’s as simple as that, it detracts from the ‘smooth and simple’ useability of the machine which has traditionally been Apple’s hallmark. I reckon including it was an awful decision.

A dark menu bar background plus light menu bar text and icons solves this problem.

All of this is notch ado about nothing.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

Here’s a better question, apologies if I’m trolling:

Should the best hardware have the best apps?

 

[Rosso786]

Tim Cook if you're reading this, let me help you out. Add a Magsafe to the back of the Notchbook pro lid towards the top in the middle. Here people could easily attach an "Apple or third party" developed broadcast quality camera for this post covid "I work from home" world. Then you can reclaim the notch back for us.

The Magsafe would enable it to attach and re-attach at will and supply a constant charge, we could even just place our iphones on the lid to charge them too. This way you don't need to even include the lightening connector with the iphone 14 and force us to buy the Notchless-book pro to charge our shiny new iphone 14s. Think of all that money Tim?

 

[andywaynebrooks]

i would not say that Mitch “gives” space for any

 

[andywaynebrooks]

saying that the notch “gives more space for a continent” is like saying “the ocean gives more space for land.”

 

[JimmyHook]

I remember everyone saying a phone notch was “terrible design” etc. Their howling at the moon amounted to nothing. Let them continue to fire off comments into the void where nobody will care

 

[Tagbert]

saying that the notch “gives more space for a continent” is like saying “the ocean gives more space for land.”

The point is that by moving the menus to that space there is more space available for the apps. That is called MORE SPACE

 

[newbmacuser2021]

I remember everyone saying a phone notch was “terrible design” etc. Their howling at the moon amounted to nothing. Let them continue to fire off comments into the void where nobody will care

I’m still using my iPhone 6s with Live Photos. From 2015.

Apple makes amazing hardware.

 

[JimmyHook]

I would argue that FaceID is vastly more useful on a laptop than on a phone. I have avoided upgrading from my iPhone 8+ because I like TouchID where I don't have to literally point the phone at my face to unlock it. With my laptop, if I'm using it, my face is pretty much pointing at it, so there's basically 0 effort there and it'd be pretty cool.

TouchID => better for phones
FaceID => better for laptops

Some people will like it for the novelty, but I don’t “glance” at my computer, but I do pull my phone out and appreciate that it’s already unlocked before I do anything. That’s why Face ID is more useful on a handheld device

 

[jlc1978]

So is that Apple’s hallmark? Fantastic hardware?

Profit margin.

 

[newbmacuser2021]

Profit margin.

Lol. Is this MacBook Pro the best machine to make Android apps?

So, is Google is going to buy 10k MacBook Pro 2021s to end Apple’s market share?

 

[tgwaste]

Tim Cook if you're reading this, let me help you out. Add a Magsafe to the back of the Notchbook pro lid towards the top in the middle. Here people could easily attach an "Apple or third party" developed broadcast quality camera for this post covid "I work from home" world. Then you can reclaim the notch back for us.

The Magsafe would enable it to attach and re-attach at will and supply a constant charge, we could even just place our iphones on the lid to charge them too. This way you don't need to even include the lightening connector with the iphone 14 and force us to buy the Notchless-book pro to charge our shiny new iphone 14s. Think of all that money Tim?

The camera should be behind the screen. At this point nothing else is acceptable to me. This is just Apple creating another iteration point to sell the same thing over and over year after year.

 

[azpc]

Marketing drivel....

I had planned on ordering two MBP’s. Not now, I will wait until the notch disappears.


If the notch wasn’t an eyesore then why is Apple hiding it in most of the promo renders on its own webpage.


“Imagine putting a piece of electrical tape on your laptop at the 12 O’clock position…permanently.”


”The notch is a distraction, as if someone left a barbecue sauce thumbprint in the middle of the top of my screen when opening it.”

As another MacRumors poster noted:

"When you have to resort to using workarounds via software to try and disguise a hardware design decision then that is bad design. End of story."

Agreed!

 

[newbmacuser2021]

So, I’m writing a Unity app for Windows 11.

Do I buy this MacBook Pro 2021 or a Dell?

 

[paulvee]

This is all so much blather. The notch is a non-issue. If you need the horsepower and the new machine, you will be fine with it. If you have time to obsess about this notch, you don’t need the machine. Find something else to complain about. I know you will, all of you.

 

[ian87w]

Expecting new MacBook pro to have a smaller notch. Even more screen to see. Coming in, 2022.

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Imo number 2 should've been enough for the webcam. The overly large size imo is a placeholder for FaceID on future versions. Get your customers to get used to the notch first, and spend the first year explaining the notch in case there are backlashes. Then when FaceID is ready, they can just put it in and focus on marketing the FaceID feature without having to explain about the notch. That's my theory at least.

 

[toobravetosave]

Wild how people think a magsafe optional web cam is somehow a viable alternative. If apple did that y'all would throw 10 times the fit you're throwing now about the notch. Get real people

 

[newbmacuser2021]

So, my boss says I have to make an app for Alexa. Is this the best machine to run Python?

 

[newbmacuser2021]

One more

Is this the best machine to run Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Illustrator? Are there benchmarks to prove otherwise?