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Apple Says Opposing FBI is 'Absolutely Not' a 'Marketing Strategy'
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Just so we have this straight, you think Rep. Darrell Issa who voted for the Patriot Act and the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security, who also co-sponsored the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, someone who's entire career has him fighting for more powers to law enforcement and intelligence agencies, now all of a sudden just threw them all under the bus because he happens to live in the same state as Apple?
Wow, I'm starting to finally understand why Trump's doing so well.
It's their intent and why.
Example: Appeal. Why? Cumbersome and ...
No proof, just intent and brief on why.
Agreed. This is serious development work.
Also Apple would need to test this against other locked phones to make sure they don't wipe the phone in the process.
They would also need to test the ability to automatically enter codes via the lightning connector.
This is demanding a private company use resources for development.
This is not simply "unlock the phone".
Here is the timeline as laid out for this:
"The Court will hear Apple’s application for relief and the government’s motion to compel on March 22, 2016, at 1:00 p.m., and sets the following briefing schedule: Apple shall file its application for relief/opposition to the government’s motion by not later than February 26, 2016; Any amicus brief shall be filed by not later than March 3, 2016, along with an appropriate request seeking leave of the Court to file such brief; The government’s opposition to Apple’s application for relief/reply to the government’s motion shall be filed by not later than March 10, 2016; Apple shall file any reply with respect to its application for relief by not later than March 15, 2016."
That was already going to be a very heavy lift, even before all this obvious overreaching.
This is from a medical blog, trying to compare healthcare security with Apple's security, and making some interesting statements. Some flat out wrong.
But anyway, read it and see what you think.
Security has become a huge issue in the medical field.
But anyway, read it and see what you think.
Security has become a huge issue in the medical field.
Terrorism is paused for the moment during this break.
It's not like there isn't a reason for people to be concerned about government security overreach.
If our government was trustworthy, it wouldn't be a question, but it's pulled some really serious bad stuff on people. The CIA was barred, prior to Bush, from operating inside the country. FOR A REASON.
It sounds like what happened with their iCloud account is what happens to my mother-in-law. She foregts the password, and then the account locks, and now Apple automatically changes the password, and then she has to go through the process of setting a new password. It's a pain...
Apple has a right to appeal and they have until the end of February to comply, unless extensions are granted. And they have cooperated fully to this point.
Oh I didn't realise he was dead. This is quite a lot of effort to go to to prosecute a dead person.
FBI Director James Comey also said "the San Bernardino litigation isn't about trying to set a precedent or send any kind of message," but rather "about the victims and justice."
this is absolute horse manure. He knows its about setting a precedent. The FBI was just sitting their waiting for this one specific case so they would have a bigger hammer to hit Apple with. Also, what justice will the FBI be able to give the victims if Apple opens the phone, that they cant give them now??? The perpetrators are dead. There is no case, there is no prosecution. they are just investigating for investigation's sake.
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They absolutely would. Samsung USA is a corporation and is the American arm of the Korean company. Also, if they sell devices in America, they are operating here and would be subject to the US Court's jurisdiction. Even if there was no Samsung USA, tt could be forced to comply....or never sell another device in America.
this is absolute horse manure. He knows its about setting a precedent. The FBI was just sitting their waiting for this one specific case so they would have a bigger hammer to hit Apple with. Also, what justice will the FBI be able to give the victims if Apple opens the phone, that they cant give them now??? The perpetrators are dead. There is no case, there is no prosecution. they are just investigating for investigation's sake.
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They absolutely would. Samsung USA is a corporation and is the American arm of the Korean company. Also, if they sell devices in America, they are operating here and would be subject to the US Court's jurisdiction. Even if there was no Samsung USA, tt could be forced to comply....or never sell another device in America.
You seem to be suggesting that good marketing is preferable to integrity, truth and credibility and an acceptance of low ambition in the name of profit.
On the other hand, it's also "horse manure" that Apple doesn't view this as part of their marketing strategy. Of course they do. The know how "cool" it is, particularly to the younger generation, to stand up to the government in the name of principle. There's no way Apple didn't consider that.
Absolutely right. Its because of idiots that think that way in the first place that we have ridiculous laws such as FISA, EO 12333, and the Patriot Act. People who will trade ALL their liberties away, just so the govt will tell them "you are safe". Cowards. Life is dangerous, you are responsible for your own defense and security. Grow a pair.
The county government (iPhone owner) and the FBI reset the password, presumably to keep the co-conspirators out.
I most certainly am fully aware of the current and past nefarious deeds the government has spearheaded. Therefore I'm not disagreeing with you. It's one of many reasons I have no trust in them. But I've also lost trust in Apple for several reasons. Supremely hypocritical and greedy they too say one thing and do another.
The issue we're discussing lacks a reasonable and safe resolution. To privacy, that's but a myth of yesteryear. Big Data, the Insurance Industry and others have pilfered our personal data long before now. Smartphones are the FBI's dream device for tracking us. Reminds me of "closing the barn door after the horse is out".
There's just too much to be gained from brokering our personal data. Too many big organizations with the money that it takes to buy our data. Plain and simple.
Well, staying true to your core is also a way to market yourself. Marketing has a bad connotation, but it is still true here.
And that's not the problem. The FBI has the phone, they can do whatever they want with it. They can have the NSA help them instead of going to court to force Apple to make a custom firmware.
Oh, the guy, the "terrorist" owning the phone is already dead. Nobody's hiding.
This is one of those "genie out of the bottle" things. Once the technology exists, Apple can no longer say, "No, you must erase an iPhone if you don't have the passcode."
As awful as terrorism is, statistically it's a relatively minor cause of death. If saving lives is a justification for extraordinary measures, then there is no end to this.
Everybody and his sister who believes he/she has a legitimate reason for access starts arguing that they deserve an exception. There will be executors of estates, divorce attorneys, parents wanting to protect their minor children... "The only picture we have of our dear, departed relative is on the phone!" Every IT manager of every major business or government account will want this, as the phones and the information contained upon them are company property ("Employee quit and left his phone locked, I need to get the company's info!"). And, of course, every law enforcement official trying to prevent a heinous crime. Should access be denied in the face of potential domestic violence, sexual abuse, abduction, slavery...
Apple could post a policy statement, saying that they will only use the tool under specific, government-ordered conditions, but saying that does not prevent others from suing to challenge that policy.
Altogether, I pity any company that would have to start dealing with these demands.
As awful as terrorism is, statistically it's a relatively minor cause of death. If saving lives is a justification for extraordinary measures, then there is no end to this.
Everybody and his sister who believes he/she has a legitimate reason for access starts arguing that they deserve an exception. There will be executors of estates, divorce attorneys, parents wanting to protect their minor children... "The only picture we have of our dear, departed relative is on the phone!" Every IT manager of every major business or government account will want this, as the phones and the information contained upon them are company property ("Employee quit and left his phone locked, I need to get the company's info!"). And, of course, every law enforcement official trying to prevent a heinous crime. Should access be denied in the face of potential domestic violence, sexual abuse, abduction, slavery...
Apple could post a policy statement, saying that they will only use the tool under specific, government-ordered conditions, but saying that does not prevent others from suing to challenge that policy.
Altogether, I pity any company that would have to start dealing with these demands.
There is a difference between product strategy and marketing strategy. It's true Apple has used privacy/security argument in marketing. However, this due to fact that their iOS products are protected due to their design. Therefore, privacy in this case is not some marketing crap cooked up by some creative team. In my opinion this has nothing to do with "standing up to the government". This is about privacy. NSA has screwed it up big time before and now the little sister is asking for keys to the kingdom. This won't end well if security of iOS is jeopardised.
Hope you're not currently using Touch ID because you're compromising your own privacy.
The problem is that locking one specific phone will lock every single phone ever built by Apple. FBI is asking Apple to build "master key iOS" which will grant the user the full access to any iPhone. I have no sympathy for terrorists but the fact remains, unlocking the phone won't bring back anyone, the perpetrators are already dead and last but not least I find privacy much more important than few dead terrorists.
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Finger print info is stored in secure enclave within the phone. It's security threat only if FBI gets its compromised iOS version.