With a better keyboard and a modern M chip inside this machine would be still appealing to me today.
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Apple Says Original 12-Inch MacBook Will Be Obsolete at End of June
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I still use one now and yes they have their little glitches, but is the best travel Laptop around, period! Wish they made even an M1 version, that's all it needs without being overkill!
Little Glitches? Respectfully, I would say having a working keyboard and a charging port that doesn't drop the cord at the slightest shift is more than a little glitch list lol
I used to have a fan positioned next to it for playing games. Concept was great though and the M1 MBA was a great replacement for me.
Now that they've got processors that can run cool and silently, you'd think they'd want to resurrect the tiny 12" MacBook and get it right this time. I think most people would go for that than the 12.9" iPad Pro and Magic Keyboard which would be an expensive and heavy option in comparison.
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Darth Tulhu
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Good riddance.
I get that some people liked this form factor, but let's not quibble about this: the item in question here was trash and y'all KNOW it.
The machines that replaced it were better in every way.
And with the current M2 MBA, Apple hit it out of the park. People are sleeping on how powerful and portable the M2 MBA is.
I get that some people liked this form factor, but let's not quibble about this: the item in question here was trash and y'all KNOW it.
The machines that replaced it were better in every way.
And with the current M2 MBA, Apple hit it out of the park. People are sleeping on how powerful and portable the M2 MBA is.
Amazing product. I loved mine. Bring it back with the M2 or M3.
Funnily I never had those issues, mine were a few screen flickers randomly and the obviously the battery not holding charge.
What machine replaced it? MacBook Air? Doesn’t replace it. iPad Pro? Doesn’t replace it. It's absurd how you don't understand the point of this machine, 8 years after its presentation. It's as big as a magazine, it weighs less than an iPad, it has MacOS. Nothing replaced it.
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That's exactly why they won't do it.
An iPad Pro costs 3 times that, weighs twice as much, doesn't have MacOS. Yet they sell it to those who believe Apple will give them MacOS on an iPad. Why should it make a better product, at a lower cost, which involves greater problems (cools a cpu that manages MacOS compared to iOS without having fans..), when they can sell iPad Pro at 3 times the price of this and, and when them users moaning about it they can answer “hey, it's just an iPad!”?
No. The effectively unrepairable and intentionally non-upgradable nature of their construction is entirely unacceptable and pathetic. To accept less is pathetic.
It's 2023. Humanity's insistence on ****, ultimately disposable products that are headed straight to the landfill is no longer something we can shrug at.
I'm simply saying we should demand better and that we should do better.
Darth Tulhu
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Whether I "understand the point of this machine" or not is irrelevant.What machine replaced it? MacBook Air? Doesn’t replace it. iPad Pro? Doesn’t replace it. It's absurd how you don't understand the point of this machine, 8 years after its presentation. It's as big as a magazine, it weighs less than an iPad, it has MacOS. Nothing replaced it.
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Your head canon doesn't matter in the real world: Apple replaced it in their product lineup.
1. The machine was not even close to being as light as an iPad
2. The MacBook was removed along with the Retina MBA as a way to finally kill the trash butterfly keyboard and deal with power inefficiencies and thermal constraints
3. It's replacement was the (also fan-less but much cooler) MBA M1 and the two iPad Pros (both of which are MUCH lighter than the MB)
Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for choice and would love for Apple to give us an "MB Mini" like this (with a keyboard like the iPad MK), but I just don't see it happening. Apple positioned the M-iPads as their ultralight offerings.
You don't have to like it, but you will have to come to peace with it.
Imagine what it would be like if Apple made a super-small version of the M2 MacBook Air.
Remember the old 11-inch wedge-shaped MacBook Air? Remember the 12-inch MacBook? Now imagine an 11- or 12-inch M2 MacBook Air, based on the current 13-inch M2 MacBook Air design. Would that work with the new Apple Silicon? Would it have enough battery life? Would it be portable enough to carve out its own niche? Would not having the old 12-inch MacBook's terrible keyboard make it worth a second look? Would having two USB-4/Thunderbolt 4 ports make it more practical?
People are getting excited over the pending release of a new 15-inch M2 MacBook Air alongside the existing 13-inch M2 MacBook Air. Would an additional 11-inch version of the M2 MacBook Air also attract consumers as well?
Remember the old 11-inch wedge-shaped MacBook Air? Remember the 12-inch MacBook? Now imagine an 11- or 12-inch M2 MacBook Air, based on the current 13-inch M2 MacBook Air design. Would that work with the new Apple Silicon? Would it have enough battery life? Would it be portable enough to carve out its own niche? Would not having the old 12-inch MacBook's terrible keyboard make it worth a second look? Would having two USB-4/Thunderbolt 4 ports make it more practical?
People are getting excited over the pending release of a new 15-inch M2 MacBook Air alongside the existing 13-inch M2 MacBook Air. Would an additional 11-inch version of the M2 MacBook Air also attract consumers as well?
No, but it's really relevant: how do you plan to express an opinion on something if you don't understand it?
Are you telling me that Apple has updated its product line? Unbelievable, isn't that exactly what he does every year? Imagine yourself on a niche product like this. I'll give you a tip, the next product that won't update is AirPods Max. is it a poor product? No, it's a niche product, it doesn't have to sell like that iPhone Max toilet, it has another market positioning.
Returning to the product:
1. It's lighter than an iPad Pro, because you'll have realised that I'm talking about the iPad Pro with keyboard, and not just the iPad Pro;
2. Of course, they removed the products to eliminate the keyboards, which is why it has been in the catalogue for 5 years;
3. No, neither MBA nor iPad Pro are a substitute, because they don't do the same thing: they are bulkier, heavier, one is an entry level (MBA, which I remind you also exists in Intel version, not really a performing machine) the other a top level (iPad Pro) that costs twice as much and does not have MacOS.
I agree on this last point, and I've already explained why they won't: Apple doesn't need it, it's all the more convenient to sell useless products that cost twice as much. And I don't have to make peace, I don't need a replacement, I already have what I need.
Darth Tulhu
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I never said I don't understand the product, YOU did. Perhaps you presumed this because I didn't agree with you.
Still, not relevant to my point:
The MacBook was replaced in the Apple lineup, regardless of whether or not you like what it was replaced with.
You're entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.
No clue what you're trying to say here.
You didn't say that and I did not assume you did.
Every iPad comes with a built-in keyboard. Again, whether you consider it apples-to-apples useful or not is also irrelevant from Apple's product-positioning perspective. Plenty of very light external keyboards available too.
Again, not sure what you're trying to say here. The MacBook was launched in 2015, last updated in 2017, and discontinued in 2019.
And again, your head canon shows up. It's not a substitute, for you. Apple begs to differ and did.
MB launch price: $1,200
iPad Pro 12.9 M2: $1,099
"Useless products." Definitely done discussing these products after that.
That actually sounds like you have made your peace with it, then. Cheerio. Jogging on.
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Okay, thank you for all the fish.
I don't have much else to add to someone who overlaps 3 products with different sizes, weights, operating systems, purposes, and tells me they're the same. After all, even being alive or dead is the same, for the universe.
Bye.
I don't have much else to add to someone who overlaps 3 products with different sizes, weights, operating systems, purposes, and tells me they're the same. After all, even being alive or dead is the same, for the universe.
Bye.
And many of them barely worked. Keyboard breaks. Charger port won't hold. Battery life sucked. Slow operation out of the box.What machine replaced it? MacBook Air? Doesn’t replace it. iPad Pro? Doesn’t replace it. It's absurd how you don't understand the point of this machine, 8 years after its presentation. It's as big as a magazine, it weighs less than an iPad, it has MacOS. Nothing replaced it.
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The machine was a piece of crap.
Your machine was a piece of crap.
I have one from April 2015, one from March 2016 and one from July 2019 and no one had problems with keyboards and doors, and they spent their existence in dusty environments, they were kidnapped by the police, and they are still here doing their job.
So phenomenon, as you see, personal experiences matter up to a certain point.
Many greetings to you too.
Just in time for the class action settlement regarding its keyboard.
Apple plans to add the original 12-inch MacBook to its obsolete products list on June 30, according to an internal memo obtained by MacRumors. Once classified as obsolete, the laptop will no longer be eligible for repairs or service at Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers, as parts will no longer be available.
Apple classifies a product as technologically obsolete once more than seven years have passed since the company stopped distributing it for sale. The original 12-inch MacBook was discontinued in April 2016 upon the release of a second-generation model with improved specs, so the laptop recently crossed that seven-year mark.
Introduced in March 2015, the 12-inch MacBook featured a thin and light design that weighed just two pounds, and it was also Apple's first fanless notebook. Pricing started at $1,299, with the original model's standard specs including a 1.1GHz dual-core Intel Core M processor, integrated Intel graphics, 8GB of RAM, and a 256GB SSD.
Key design aspects of the 12-inch MacBook included a single USB-C port for charging and data transfer, an all-new Force Touch trackpad, and a terraced battery design that allowed for a larger battery to fit inside the notebook's thin chassis.
Unfortunately, the 12-inch MacBook was also the first MacBook model to feature Apple's infamous butterfly switch keyboard design, which is prone to failure and was eventually dropped from the entire MacBook lineup after years of complaints and lawsuits. Apple last updated the 12-inch MacBook in June 2017, and it was discontinued in July 2019.
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You seem to be an exception. My machine was treated very well, kept indoors, and still fell apart. It is the only Apple device I have owned that has functioned that poorly, and it is not a unique experience, no matter how Macrumors folks may try to pretend otherwise.
They simply weren't well built machines. The form factor was nice and portable, but terribly put together.
Yeah, this form factor should be the Air, and the current Air's should just be Macbooks. I really don't get how Apple has screwed up this extremely obvious marketing snafu so badly.
Quite the Sherlock Holmes you are! You found a commercial composant that’s in it to sell goods… how utterly unusual and probably evil!
Many here are confusing their own wants and desires for Apples strategy with what the majority of their customers want. While I quite liked the 12 and still run one, the fact that they did not create a new one by now likely means it would be a bad business decision for them to do so, nothing more, nothing less…