This is a very valid point.Sure, it's not a problem until you get denied service at the Genius Bar because there's a bend aka "physical damage", so now any issue is out of warranty.
This is a very valid point.Sure, it's not a problem until you get denied service at the Genius Bar because there's a bend aka "physical damage", so now any issue is out of warranty.
Looking at that video, I am confused, I thought the new iPad Pro was supposed to have and edge to edge display,m yet I clearly see bezels on all sides.Comparing the old to new, I still have an iPad 2 and you can just tell by handling it that it's built more tough compared to the newer ones. The new ones will flex with a bit of pressure applied but the older iPad doesn't give at all. Of course they will both bend at a certain point, but there's no doubt the older one takes more force to do so. I don't think anyone is saying that the iPad is the only device that will bend, it's the threshold at which it does that is in question. There is no question in my mind that the newer devices are more fragile than the older ones.
I don't usually link to videos on YouTube, but this one does show the difference between the new and the old.
Looking at that video, I am confused, I thought the new iPad Pro was supposed to have and edge to edge display,m yet I clearly see bezels on all sides.
That being said, this expensive of a device should never be sent out bent, that is completely inexcusable, as is the fact that it bends more easily than previous models.
The video is stupid even for bending videos, and designed around a preset narrative. Making jokes about the headphone jack (why am I not surprised), the “perhaps build them better next time” comment - this is a classic clickbaity, unoriginal Apple-bashing video that tells us nothing and attracts people who either have no interest in Apple devices or find them too expensive. That’s it.
And even the comparison is stupid. Of course the first one, which is twice as thick, a lot heavier and has a smaller surface will bend harder. The question is - will this iPad bend under regular usage? (and of course, everyone is a structural expert all of a sudden so they know it will). Anyway, are these iPads built well and will they stand wear & tear from normal usage, over time? If you do want to compare them, at least compare them to other iPad Pros and under regular usage scenarios (put them in a tight bag, for example). The best test will be time itself, once this non-controversy dies down, we’ll see how many iPad Pros actually bent.
Until then, this is just people venting their frustration, that is all.
I just thought of something... who in their right mind, especially after this, would ever trust Apple with their life by buying one of their rumored self-driving cars? Can you imagine the same lackadaisical attitude towards the build quality of a car?.
He has made it abundantly clear that he cares more about using his position of power to further his own personal agenda, rather than actually making Apple a better company towards its customers. He apparently thinks that everyone who buys Apple devices should live within the same silicon valley frame of mind that he does. He talks about how important encryption is to freedom, yet is all on board with censorship and stifling voices of those he feels people shouldn't be listening to. He is a hypocrite and a fraud.
He has made it abundantly clear that he cares more about using his position of power to further his own personal agenda, rather than actually making Apple a better company towards its customers. He apparently thinks that everyone who buys Apple devices should live within the same silicon valley frame of mind that he does. He talks about how important encryption is to freedom, yet is all on board with censorship and stifling voices of those he feels people shouldn't be listening to. He is a hypocrite and a fraud.
Thanks for your opinion. I stand by my comment.I think you’re being a bit dramatic in the sense of comparing a minuscule bend in an iPad to comparing an ‘Apple car’ that may never exist. You seem like you’re under the notion Apple should be perfect, they’re not, no need make it seem like they lost the ability to manufacturer a tech product anymore.
How so? I've been an Apple guy since 2002 and don't remember this many people being pissed and this many lackluster products under Steve.
Under Steve we got:
There were a fair bit of flops too (Motorola ROKR, iPod HiFi, etc) but all in all Steve brought us new stuff we wanted. Tim brought us crap we don't want or need (Touchbar, bad keyboards, few updates on Macs, bent iPads, Beats, etc).
- Imac
- iLamp Imac
- iPod
- iPhone
- iPad
- Mac Mini
- Best of breed laptops (Macbook Pro, Macbook Air)
- Downloaded Music and Movies
I still have my doubts Tim is the right guy. He may know supply chains but he sure as hell doesn't know technology or how to move the ball forward.
Thanks for your opinion. I stand by my comment.
Who would ever trust Apple with their life by buying one of their rumored self-driving cars? Can you imagine the same lackadaisical attitude towards the build quality of a car?.
Are you tired of winning yet?Apple doesn’t “cut orders” for iPhone publicly, so you’re just speculating along with everyone else.
If you haven’t noticed, the entire market is in free fall.
Looked at NVDA, AMZN, GOOGL, FB, NFLX, TWTR, AMD, etc?
Not one official number or word has come out of Apple to the negative, but fear in markets drive stocks in the short term.
The last numbers we heard from Apple sported 20% revenue growth and 41% EPS growth. But you don’t deal in facts, right? Much more fun to speculate and doom and gloom.
Again, thanks for your opinion. I stand by my comment.You actually posed two hypothetical questions, both of which are unrealistic. Again, you’re logic doesn’t apply to something that doesn’t exist.
Doubt it, he’s the one that said you’re holding it the wrong way. What are you on about?"You're not bending it the right way" - Steve rolling in his grave
All I have done is respond to those who have quoted me. I made my points and stand by them. And yes, it is realistic that there are problems with devices. It happens all the time, but not with every device. I owned the 10.5, no white spot. I own the iPad Pro 11, no bend. That points to a manufacturing defect with a small batch of iPad's. Clearly not the end of the world. Haha I think you need to get off your high horse a bit. If you don't like their products, don't buy it, you have every right to that - but to say it's junk is just naive. Manufacturing defects have been going on for years and it has happened under your savior Steve Job's watch as well. Again, deep breaths - it's not the end of the world.
What I would like to see/read, is a _real_ (Not a Macrumors member guess) engineer that understands this type of manufacturing, and if they could comment specifically if this seems accurate to what Apple is describing reference the bending in the aluminum, And is it considered ‘Normal.’
Clearly the end of the world with you with all the comments trying to persuade people’s opinipns which are way justified over this matter than your own lol. I rest my case, as an apple sheep and one that doesn’t “put apple on blast over anything” I think a good crack in the face would wake you up to reality and if I could I’d be more than welcome to do it.
You can take any Apple product back within a certain number of days.I just thought of something... who in their right mind, especially after this, would ever trust Apple with their life by buying one of their rumored self-driving cars? Can you imagine the same lackadaisical attitude towards the build quality of a car?
If they consider it normal then they absolutely can deny a return. You’ve got the logic in reverse.
All I do is win.Are you tired of winning yet?