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Also, Google is very very invasive in privacy.
Can you explain exactly what personal information they are sharing with folk that you don't want them to? Just because they know that a shopping Web site has been viewed on a certain screen, so an algorithm displays a small similar ad down the side.. it's all encrypted chunks of data, do you think there's a human being reading your mails.
Peace out brother..
 
Can you explain exactly what personal information they are sharing with folk that you don't want them to? Just because they know that a shopping Web site has been viewed on a certain screen, so an algorithm displays a small similar ad down the side.. it's all encrypted chunks of data, do you think there's a human being reading your mails.
Peace out brother..

I didn't want to seem unpeaceful in my considerations. I was only saying that When you use an Android device(supposed to be a "free as in freedom" Operating System) and don't want to rely on Google services (thing that I have tried to do on Android whit a lot of difficulty) is a very hard game, and this is the first impression when someone switch from iOS to Android.
I don't think that they share informations with others , I think that they profile the users in too much different sides. Maybe Apple does the same, but the feeling is different in my opinion
 
I didn't want to seem unpeaceful in my considerations. I was only saying that When you use an Android device(supposed to be a "free as in freedom" Operating System) and don't want to rely on Google services (thing that I have tried to do on Android whit a lot of difficulty) is a very hard game, and this is the first impression when someone switch from iOS to Android.
I don't think that they share informations with others , I think that they profile the users in too much different sides. Maybe Apple does the same, but the feeling is different in my opinion
Your terminology of " very very invasive" does conjure up visions of black suited men in shades in 4x4s waiting outside your house etc. A tad seedy implications, when in reality they are an ad company just wanting to sell ads..
As the phrase goes, only the guilty have something to fear..

Have a nice day.
 
Your terminology of " very very invasive" does conjure up visions of black suited men in shades in 4x4s waiting outside your house etc. A tad seedy implications, when in reality they are an ad company just wanting to sell ads..
As the phrase goes, only the guilty have something to fear..

Have a nice day.

Maybe you see this in my words because English is not my primary language and I have chosen wrong words, but I didn't mean to evocate MIB or "Ex Machina" scenarios...
The intrusive (but not conjuring) feeling is not only mine, but also reported from other friends and colleagues that made the switch. Maybe only a vague feeling, but in my experience , today , if you want to use devices without Google is not very easy, and even if this is because Google is (way)better than others in many services , it is a kinda creepy fact. Fortunately also Google sometime loose the race (for example vs Facebook with Google+), so competition is open.
I have nothing to fear, I want multiple choices.
Nice day to you.
 
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Maybe you see this in my words because English is not my primary language and I have chosen wrong words, but I didn't mean to evocate MIB or "Ex Machina" scenarios...
The intrusive (but not conjuring) feeling is not only mine, but also reported from other friends and colleagues that made the switch. Maybe only a vague feeling, but in my experience , today , if you want to use devices without Google is not very easy, and even if this is because Google is (way)better than others in many services , it is a kinda creepy fact. Fortunately also Google sometime loose the race (for example vs Facebook with Google+), so competition is open.
I have nothing to fear, I want multiple choices.
Nice day to you.
Thank you for your excellent response. Safety online is obviously a big concern for all. Take it easy out there.
 
Remember when the iPhone launch moved from June to October (iPhone 4 launch vs 4S launch)? The world didn't end then either. New MBPs will come out in the fall (September or October).

...dunno: the iPhone 4/4s era is probably around the time that Android started to make inroads into the high-end "iPhone-killer" market. Also, switching between Mac and PC is a much bigger deal than switching phones: if people give up waiting for a MacBook Pro and switch to PC, switch software, transfer all their data, buy new peripherals, get used to Windows, they won't be switching back in a hurry.

Also - we have a rumor that new Macs are coming in Sept/Oct. Meanwhile, Cook gets up on stage and asks why anybody would use anything bigger than an iPad.
 
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Apple makes great computers, but the iPhone is by far their most profitable product so I can see why they are focused on it. It seems as if computer and phone technology has slowed down a bit in terms of performance improvements so it's hard to bump the specs year after year. They could at least drop the price a bit but that's not Apple. Chromebooks are also really growing with casual users and schools.
It also seems like they are lacking in R&D in new products. Apple Watch is the only new thing and it has been relatively unsuccessful. All that money and smart people, I wonder what they are doing and what products are in development.
 
They could at least update the i/o to TB3 & USB-c , especially on the pro models

Even if they only bump the cpu's etc a tiny bit at least stay relevant !?

New video cards for the mac pro too ?? the silly form factor of the trash can put paid to any pc card flashing like on the cMP , talk about a closed box
 
The intrusive (but not conjuring) feeling is not only mine, but also reported from other friends and colleagues that made the switch. Maybe only a vague feeling, but in my experience , today , if you want to use devices without Google is not very easy, and even if this is because Google is (way)better than others in many services , it is a kinda creepy fact.
I think the concerns are justified. Google is different than other companies in how extensive and all-encompassing their data collection is. They know:

- What you search for on the Internet
- Which sites you visit (through their vast advertising network)
- What and with whom you communicate (by scanning your emails, Hangout chats and collecting metadata about Google Voice calls)
- If you use an Android device, they know your location history
- They also know what you purchase where if you use Google Pay

And who knows what else. Even if you think they do not abuse or share your profile today, we don't know what happens tomorrow (if, for example, their business takes a downturn). Personally I don't like the concentration of so much sensitive information at a single company and thus try to use alternatives wherever possible.
 
Maybe you see this in my words because English is not my primary language and I have chosen wrong words, but I didn't mean to evocate MIB or "Ex Machina" scenarios...
The intrusive (but not conjuring) feeling is not only mine, but also reported from other friends and colleagues that made the switch. Maybe only a vague feeling, but in my experience , today , if you want to use devices without Google is not very easy, and even if this is because Google is (way)better than others in many services , it is a kinda creepy fact. Fortunately also Google sometime loose the race (for example vs Facebook with Google+), so competition is open.
I have nothing to fear, I want multiple choices.
Nice day to you.
I understand you although I personally don't share the feeling. I am aware that Google tracks our search results, indexes our emails etc. This information is used, as you know, for ads targeting.

I'd like to point out a few things.

(1) Google has a strong privacy department and good data protection compliance. While any massive company has a screw-up now and again, there's no evidence of anything particularly sinister or unethical about their data collection practices. I have good friends (and even a family member) who work for them so I feel fairly reassured about this.

(2) You can opt-out of their targeted advertising procedure, and that will really do so. And when you delete your account or some profile, it really gets deleted.

(3) You can further protect yourself (at least on PCs) using browser add-ons such as Ghostery, Adblock etc. I do and they're quite effective.

(4) Most Google products are truly best-in-class. Search, Maps, Photos, Mail, Drive/Docs. All multi-platform. I understand your reservations but I think it's a hard trade.

(5) Last but not least, your trust in Apple may be misplaced. They're the company that shipped Maverick with default Spotlight options to send your local file searches to Bing. They've also had a number of critical OSX security flaws which on one side they weren't keen to quickly fix (like the infamous root certificate validation) and on the other side are very keen to silence those who make these flaws public - such as Google's Security Team, who reports bugs well in advance directly to the companies in question, and gives them time to fix them before going public.

While I think that OSX is inherently more secure than Windows due to its BSD roots, I'm not convinced at all that Apple as a company takes your data and privacy more seriously than Google - marketing and Cook assurances aside.
 
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Apple makes great computers, but the iPhone is by far their most profitable product so I can see why they are focused on it. It seems as if computer and phone technology has slowed down a bit in terms of performance improvements so it's hard to bump the specs year after year. They could at least drop the price a bit but that's not Apple. Chromebooks are also really growing with casual users and schools.
It also seems like they are lacking in R&D in new products. Apple Watch is the only new thing and it has been relatively unsuccessful. All that money and smart people, I wonder what they are doing and what products are in development.

I agree with most of what you write. Only the iPhone thing... We'll get the same form factor as the last two years (yawn). But Samsung is showing that there is enough room for improvements left. Only a pity it's Samsung and other Chinese brands showing it off these days when it used to be Apple in the past.
 
Apple doesn't use the Iris Pro on the 13" Macbooks, and there's no reason for them to need Iris Pro for the new 13" laptops. My guess, if the mythical update does come, it won't come with Iris Pro for the 13" form factor.

They simply didn't update the Macbook lines, for no stated reason. Considering how slow and underwhelming the previous updates have been, I'm wondering if they've simply put the Mac business on the back burner (doesn't make much money anyway) and are focusing everything on God-knows-what: self-driving cars, watch bands, whatever else they can spend $10bil. R&D money on.

Because having Skylake in the 13" laptops but not on the 15" laptops is even worse. From what I remember, the Iris Pro processors came out very recently.

And BTW, that last argument really needs to go. Do you think Apple only has a dozen workers? The person working on the car also works on the laptops? You really believe their other tasks are taking resources from the laptop line? No. That is why companies have departments. A programmer does not do janitorial work too. Hell, even a programmer on this project is usually not involved in another programming project.
 
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...dunno: the iPhone 4/4s era is probably around the time that Android started to make inroads into the high-end "iPhone-killer" market.
You don't know? So, you think it was a mistake for Apple to move the release of the iPhone from June to September/October? At worst, they had a four-month period with low sales. And the whole thing (the longer wait between iPhone generations) was forgotten shortly after the 4S was released.

Also, switching between Mac and PC is a much bigger deal than switching phones: if people give up waiting for a MacBook Pro and switch to PC, switch software, transfer all their data, buy new peripherals, get used to Windows, they won't be switching back in a hurry.
If people switch to PCs just because they had to wait four months longer to get a Mac laptop with a Skylake processor, they are idiots. If people believe that there would be no Skylake MBPs this year at all, they are even bigger idiots. I'd say, good riddance.

Also - we have a rumor that new Macs are coming in Sept/Oct. Meanwhile, Cook gets up on stage and asks why anybody would use anything bigger than an iPad.
We don't have 'a' rumour, we have a barrage of rumours about new MBPs. And what is Cook to say: Don't buy the current MBPs because there will be new ones out in September?
 
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After recording its first quarterly sales decline since 2003 this year, the doom and gloom sentiment surrounding Apple has reemerged. Some critics believe that Apple is doing too many things at once, or wrongly placing its focus on areas like Apple Watch bands rather than its core product lineup.
I never really understand this "doom & gloom" outlook with such a successful company as Apple has been over the last decade. So their sales slumped a bit, one cannot realistically expect to see sales and revenue increase forever quarter over quarter. A drop is bound to happen at some point. Granted this being the first drop in 13 years is amazing, but I'd hardly class this first drop as a prelude to such "doom & gloom". Perhaps some of these "critics" have too high of expectation of Apple and like companies.
 
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I understand you although I personally don't share the feeling. I am aware that Google tracks our search results, indexes our emails etc. This information is used, as you know, for ads targeting.

I'd like to point out a few things.

(1) Google has a strong privacy department and good data protection compliance. While any massive company has a screw-up now and again, there's no evidence of anything particularly sinister or unethical about their data collection practices. I have good friends (and even a family member) who work for them so I feel fairly reassured about this.

(2) You can opt-out of their targeted advertising procedure, and that will really do so. And when you delete your account or some profile, it really gets deleted.

(3) You can further protect yourself (at least on PCs) using browser add-ons such as Ghostery, Adblock etc. I do and they're quite effective.

(4) Most Google products are truly best-in-class. Search, Maps, Photos, Mail, Drive/Docs. All multi-platform. I understand your reservations but I think it's a hard trade.

(5) Last but not least, your trust in Apple may be misplaced. They're the company that shipped Maverick with default Spotlight options to send your local file searches to Bing. They've also had a number of critical OSX security flaws which on one side they weren't keen to quickly fix (like the infamous root certificate validation) and on the other side are very keen to silence those who make these flaws public - such as Google's Security Team, who reports bugs well in advance directly to the companies in question, and gives them time to fix them before going public.

While I think that OSX is inherently more secure than Windows due to its BSD roots, I'm not convinced at all that Apple as a company takes your data and privacy more seriously than Google - marketing and Cook assurances aside.
I agree with you on all points but n. 5 : it seems to me that Google doesn't take very seriously the security on Android, as you can read anywhere there are major flaws that affect a large number of devices (in part because fragmentation, but it's the same). Some people exaggerates saying "new day, new android flaw", but it is not so far from reality. Apple has its flaws but the approval procedure to publish in the store is very safer than the Play Store approval method, and from this iOS the source is not secret , so major flaws can be addressed in time , I think that on this side Apple is more active than Google.
P.S. I don't think that Apple is not profiling me with my data, but with android I - feel - less safe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I prefer Apple .
 



After recording its first quarterly sales decline since 2003 this year, the doom and gloom sentiment surrounding Apple has reemerged. Some critics believe that Apple is doing too many things at once, or wrongly placing its focus on areas like Apple Watch bands rather than its core product lineup.

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There is so little about mac's on this site that it should have new name. I don't care about the ios. To closed system for me, I go android. But OSX is a different thing. The site is called macrumors it should be iphonerumors or something with IOS.

The most vocal critics often point towards the state of Apple's current Mac lineup, which is beginning to stagnate. It has been 447 days since the last MacBook Pro release, while the MacBook Air has not been updated beyond a RAM bump in 518 days. Mac mini: 662 days. Mac Pro: 963 days.

Apple's stock also remains down over 13 percent from its 52-week high, and investors perhaps have at least some reason for concern. Rumors suggest, for example, that the next iPhone will be an incremental improvement over the iPhone 6s, with more significant changes not coming until 2017.

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In a new Fast Company interview alongside CEO Tim Cook, Apple services chief Eddy Cue acknowledged that technology companies are "only as good as the last thing" they did.Cook admitted that Apple can "sometimes fall short," but indirectly added that the "Apple is doomed" narrative has existed during his entire 18-year span at the company.Fortunately for Cook, he said he doesn't "read all the coverage on Apple that there is," and instead focuses on pushing the company into a future that is bigger and broader. "I want Apple to be here, you know, forever," he said.Earlier this year, Above Avalon analyst Neil Cybart said Apple is on track to spend a record $10 billion on research and development this year, up nearly 30 percent from 2015, and significantly more than the little over $3 billion per year it was spending on R&D just four years ago.

Cybart said the increased spending undoubtedly points towards development of the widely rumored Apple Car, suggesting that the company will pivot into the automobile industry. But if Cook's recent teaser about "great innovation in the pipeline" is any indication, Apple could have other plans in store too.

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One other interesting anecdote in the wide-ranging interview: Apple Maps is the reason why iOS public beta testing exists.Full-length interview: Playing The Long Game Inside Tim Cook's Apple

Article Link: Apple Says 'You're Only as Good as the Last Thing You Did' Amid Sales Slowdown
 
Except that your premise is unreasonable. You can't logically criticize "Cook's Apple" for "overthinking" when "Job's Apple" did that very thing. This is even before we get to the question of whether the company culture under Cook is in some significant way different than it was during Steve's lifetime. Even by your own criticism, it hasn't changed one iota. The source article only hammers that point home (not that many will bother reading it).

The main difference of course is atmospherics. Steve was a rock star who because of his outsized persona is now remembered as faultless, and the company during his tenure as always climbing higher. Well, that isn't true, either.

No matter how you see Jobs and Cook, no matter the number of failures under Jobs, he did deliver new and innovative products. We are still awaiting any new and innovative product(s) from Cook.
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Right now Apple is running on "brand credit", that's why there is any "resiliency" at all. It's pretty obvious.

So many people ignore or don't understand this irrespective of the plethora of companies that have done the same. Few recover.
 
P.S. I don't think that Apple is not profiling me with my data, but with android I - feel - less safe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I prefer Apple .
I am going to assume you have never done anything illegal in your life, so with that in mind, what specific security concerns do you have that makes you feel less safe?
Have a very nice safe day today.
 
They very clearly said, when they released the new MacBook, "we wanted to see what we could do with just one port". It wasn't a matter of weak minded people falling for it. It is definitely not a machine for everyone. Personally, I'd like to see MagSafe, Ethernet, and several USB-C ports, on a new MBP.

Apple is in much worse shape than I thought...
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Sorry, combining charging and data transfer in a USB-C port in no way constrains how many USB ports a computer has. You blame USB-C for the reduction in data ports (from three down to one) just because they appeared on the same product.

Now you've shifted your argument to stay "right". Kinda like Apple does...
 
Now you've shifted your argument to stay "right". Kinda like Apple does...
I have not shifted my argument. It has always been that removing MagSafe (by adding charging to the USB port) in no way requires reducing the number of data ports from three down to one. Maybe you didn't get the sarcasm of my first post on this topic.

And if they put a second USB port on it, they also wouldn't need a dongle. Removing MagSafe has no direct link to reducing the number of data ports from three (11" MBA) to one (MacBook One). I don't know why you make that link.

I am not talking about having only a single USB-C port. I am only talking about having the possibility to provide power and data via one single cable to the computer (and use it to justify the removal of the MagSafe port). I have expressed no opinion how many USB-C/TB3 or other ports the computer should have. My point was solely that the single-cable-to-dock capability can be used to justify the removal of the MagSafe port, not that there should only be one port and that people should be forced to use a dock (only giving them the ability to use a single-cable dock).

Yeah, how dare Apple create a computer which can be connected to a desktop setup with a single cable (by combining charging and data in one protocol). How dare Apple create such standards (USB-C and TB3) that allow for this.
 
I am going to assume you have never done anything illegal in your life, so with that in mind, what specific security concerns do you have that makes you feel less safe?
Have a very nice safe day today.

When a platform is less safe, the specific security concerns are not about knowing my activity ( the vast majority of people think that this is the problem: "I have nothing to hide" is the answer from them).
The concerns are that if my data are not safe, crackers can steal my identity, steal my money, my accounts, or use my devices to attack other devices, or to buy illegal goods, or to do many other bad things.
Some of my customers ( the "I have nothing to hide" people) has seen for example some iPhones bought with their already existent phone contract, or their money used to play online casinos, or their work projects stolen , and other kind of really annoying damages.
Are you also a "I have nothing to hide" person?
Have a very nice safe day.
 
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