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Apple Says 'You're Only as Good as the Last Thing You Did' Amid Sales Slowdown
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The only people who are going to be enjoying their smartphones are Android users.
That could be, I suppose. I often post here from an iPad Air (original, not "2"), and yep, it is an art. The "wysiwyg" editor is somewhat hostile to iOS in general (it can be damnably hard to get the cursor in the right place, and get it to select the text you want, and heaven help you if you want to bold or italicize something on the first line of a post - select the text and the cut/copy/paste bubble covers up the action bar at the top of the editor, clear the bubble and lose the selection - would rather have Markdown to deal with).Probably on an older iPad using Safari without enough RAM.
It can get quite frustrating to have a page reload on you. And/or to try to do a selection in order to edit the quote.
I do it, but on an iPad it's an art, not a science
The reloads are annoying (really, I think the most fundamental problem iOS has currently, is losing context when switching apps - I don't think it used to be this bad on iOS, and this is something Palm OS had nailed down 15 years ago, on low memory devices), and I have lost posts by switching away momentarily, but I haven't yet had it automatically post something for me.
Oh ok. So your demographic is for Android Users. Gotcha. It all makes sense now. What was it you said in your two previous posts? Oh that's right, "I'm worried about Apple."
Well...surely Apple isn't worried about you.
Apple isn't worried about me, the consumer, and that's exactly why they're losing my business and many others as well.
Google releases monthly security patches for Android, but of course the catch is that you must have a Nexus. Fragmentation is indeed the killer.
I don't have a Nexus anymore (recently got a P9, which is I think the best phone I ever had) but after 5 Android phones now I never had any security issues, and I don't know of anyone who did. So I personally don't feel too unsafe.
Do you know that it wasn't a mistake? You brought that up as an example of why delaying a release isn't a big deal.
I'm not waiting for a Mac with a Skylake processor that will be old hat in 6 months - I'm waiting for a Mac with USB-C/TB3 on the reasonable assumption that those will become the dominant interfaces over the next 5 years and there's no easy way of adding it as an aftermarket upgrade. Dell is offering that at the moment. Currently, I can wait, but if my current mac dies, or a colleague who needs a computer now asks me what to buy...
Actually, for people who rely on the computers for paid work, that sort of certainty might be very helpful... Oh, and you said above about the iPhone that a few months of low sales is no big deal...
I've had loads of security updates on my s6 edge, so not just Nexus devices anymore..
So you are suggesting that if Apple didn't have that maybe 20% drop in sales over three months, it's market share and installed base would be noticeably higher today? If you look at general Apple sales, the holiday quarter is knockout every year, over almost all product categories. I think the argument that having a pretty new phone for the holiday season boost iPhone sales significantly more than having lost a small sliver of its potential user base during those three months is rather solid. In the end there is no way to answer that question (you could try to compare the holiday quarter sales to the rest of the year before an after this shift in release date and then try to get a figure of how much sales were lower in this three months period and see how they stack up against each other, but even then you'd have to factor out the July/August boost from the earlier release).
The best one can do is see how most people judge this move having the benefit of hindsight. And on this front, I hadn't seen anybody claiming that this was a mistake until you came along.
If either having to wait a few months or at worst paying more for upgrading your Mac earlier than hoped for (eg, in two years instead of four years) is a decisive factor in switching to a PC, then your attachment to the Apple ecosystem was only skin-deep to begin with. You don't switch operating systems lightly (you don't even switch photo management applications lightly).
And Apple is fine with loosing some sales in that group in order to get more buzz when revealing new products.
There is a difference between only the people in the know putting off buying a product and whether you also put a big sign in your shop window announcing 'Don't buy, new versions coming out soon'. As you might have a hard time imagining, there are actually a lot of buyers who are tuned into what the position in the product cycle is (or no that the next version is going to have some significant new stuff) and who don't care too much about having something better come out several months down the line.
Tahdah! You got it. If you back track, you'll find it was you who asked that particular question.
Apple is not going to stay in the computer business by only appealing to the unshakable Mac devotees. Other people are more open minded than you. Some of us use both Mac and PC anyway. Switching OS is a pain that you don't want to do too lightly, but its not that big a deal unless you're totally locked into a Mac-only product (e.g. XCode). I'll tell you what's also a big deal: needing a computer now when all the independent Mac sites are saying "don't buy - new versions coming, er, sometime, maybe...".
Those big signs are already in the windows of MacRumors and other sites, and will be found by anybody who does 5 minutes of research (and are known about by local geeks who advise others). Nobody's expecting Apple to repeat the "Don't Buy" message but they might need a rethink of their total secrecy policy. Apple could have talked about the limited advantages of Skylake and about why the "old" chips were still "best in class". They could have dropped a few teasers about future plans for Macs. They could have said "We're committed to Mac and will be producing exciting new Mac products for the foreseeable future"... instead we get told how the iPad pro is all the computer we'll ever need. That's dangerously close to "Don't buy" but without the positive followup...
No, it's not a platform. It has a platform on it, but it's built for you to use their bundled crap primarily.
Look, Shield fanboy, you love it, I'm happy for you. The truth is that if they're going for any appeal besides gamers, it's a hilariously bad attempt at it.
The shield is a total PoS. It's one of those also-rans like Roku and boxee. Just like the last Shield device. Nvidia is a company with good technology - they should stick to developing and licensing it - they have absolutely no frogging idea about strategy.
That's another useful data point, but surely you would agree that the majority of Android phones out there are running substantially older versions of Android (keeping in mind that most folks don't buy a new phone every year). This is one place that Apple's monoculture pays off big time - since Apple is responsible for both the hardware and software (and the carrier's aren't involved in approving updates), a large percentage of the iPhones still in use are running the latest OS, with security upgrades regularly pushed by Apple.
That would only be classed as a good point if the new updates didn't make older ios devices slow to a crawl..
Plus I was only answering the claim that only nexus phones get updates.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
The only people who need luck are those sticking with Apple.
Oh ok. Thanks for the reply. Have a nice trip. We will leave the light on for you.
And that is exactly where your problem is, you cannot stand the thought of not having the latest and greatest or not buying at the optimal moment.
Yes leave the light on so when your iPhone dies from poor battery life you'll be able to find it.
Oh ok. Poor battery life. That makes complete sense. How so? There is no direct comparisons to the iPhone battery life, being everyone uses there phone differently. My 6s has amazing battery life. And the iPhone 7 is reported to have a much larger battery than its previous version. Now your just Apple bashing.
I think staying with Android is best for you. On second thought, the light won't be on for you and the door will be locked.
Because, sadly, you cannot run Avid on a Linux workstation. I'm not a MS Office fan. There's Google Docs for what little of that I need that I can't just dictate into my phone.
Oh, wait: I just "got" your sarcasm! So, you were saying that I SHOULD PAY THE GOOD FOLKS AT WWW.BOXX.COM TO WRITE A NEW UNIX-BASED OS JUST FOR ME?!
Okay, I get it. It's kind of a Hackintosh-workaround jab. Not bad!
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I keep telling people about these. Has anyone dared a Yosemite install on one of these? I look at that RenderBoxx and I drool a bit. I'm wondering how they work with Pro Tools, Vienna Symphonic Library, and nuthin' but SSD's.
Oh, wait: I just "got" your sarcasm! So, you were saying that I SHOULD PAY THE GOOD FOLKS AT WWW.BOXX.COM TO WRITE A NEW UNIX-BASED OS JUST FOR ME?!
Okay, I get it. It's kind of a Hackintosh-workaround jab. Not bad!
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I keep telling people about these. Has anyone dared a Yosemite install on one of these? I look at that RenderBoxx and I drool a bit. I'm wondering how they work with Pro Tools, Vienna Symphonic Library, and nuthin' but SSD's.
Innovation innovation where is??? Rather than inventing something new they are removing the features that millions of people use every day
SAVE AS ?
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And please, 17". We'll pay for it...
The only place where the lights are off is in the heads of people still using iPhone.
Your insults prove nothing. You have not answered any of the above questions, only to Apple bash.
If your unhappy with Apple, then leave. And secondly, why are you on an Apple forum based website, besides ranting about Android?
If you want to have a legitimate conversation concerning the Contents of the article, then continue. Otherwise, please refrain from replying to me.
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I'd say it's an improvement compared to, say, iOS 7. That was around the time that iOS started to get a lot more complex.
The article says Apple sales are slowing, and I'm explaining why. They need to start listening to people like me - the consumer, instead of loyalists who don't think before they buy. People are waking up, and that's Apple's problem.
Just ignore RelentlessPower. He obviously joined this site barely a month ago to be a pro Apple troll.
He just doesn't realize that his often excessively wordy and convoluted posts arent convincing anyone.
But like the boorish guest at your house party who enjoys the sound of his own voice, he'll keep spewing his word salads regardless.
He just doesn't realize that his often excessively wordy and convoluted posts arent convincing anyone.
But like the boorish guest at your house party who enjoys the sound of his own voice, he'll keep spewing his word salads regardless.