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My public beta changed over to the developer's beta in the last couple of updates and now it's listing all older updates as developer builds. Is that normal? I know the public and developer builds are basically the same. Is this because the main release is getting closer? I definitely didn't sign up as a developer.
 
Apple need to review the policy of the annual macOS upgrade cycle.

macOS 10.12.6 Sierra is solid and Apple should build upon that rather than entirely rewriting the macOS platform under the hood.

macOS 10.13 High Sierra has an entirely new filesystem. Yes there are advantages that come with APFS but it will not run on a considerable number of Macs that Apple claim macOS 10.13 High Sierra are compatible with.

For example I have a Late 2009 21.5" iMac with 3.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU (upgraded from 3.06GHz), Dual SSHD upgrades and the RAM maxed out to 16GB and macOS 10.13 refuses to install even though the basic specification is still met despite the changes that have been made.

There have been no such issues with updates of the platform since OS X Snow Leopard with which it came shipped.
 
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Am I missing something or are Apples basic service apps like News, Home, Stocks, ... still not available for macOS? I'd even be fine if they just put news up on a webpage like google does or iCloud whatever but I really want to see Apple news on my desktop. I mean really, going to Google news every morning just feels wrong when they have a good news app for iOS. It's been years now, is it really that hard?
 
Installation on Macbook Air Late 2010 VERY slow - at least three times originally indicated 41 minutes - but worth the tedious wait. To be fair, I only had about 10GB SSD spare and forgot to disconnect a USB 2.0 drive used for Time Machine backups, external screen via Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter, external keyboard and mouse via Buffalo USB3.0 hub.

First boot screen after restart looks like a very dumbed-down, low resolution Apple boot screen with a fat sausage style progress bar. Don't worry, you'll get the original sleeker one back later. (This may have been due to my use of an external display throughout the upgrade.) Also, don't be tempted to give up at several stages where the same time to completion is indicated for up to 20 minutes. It gets you there in the end. Maybe best to leave it all going unattended so you don't stress out over these bugbears and holdups.

Practically all prior software - including surprisingly (given some contrary rumours) Aperture and Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac - seems to load and enable me to load and save changes, though I haven't touched more than 1% of features and functionality. Time Machine backups to USB 2.0 disk and Synology DS213j work fine, though I have not tried restorations!

Safari is indeed subjectively faster, I seem to have gained 1 to 2GB of SSD space and after letting Finder / Spotlight do its indexing, all seems OK with temperatures and fan speed (I use Macs Fan Control with Exhaust - Auto setting).

Only remaining - trivial - annoyance is the three-broken-chopstick App Store icon / logo, which looks like it belongs with the fat sausage style progress bar at the beginning of the upgrade process!
 
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Sierra could certainly use some refinements so I don't mind that they aren't doing a total revamp.

Me neither. It's better to have stability than bleeding edge features. I like new releases for the stock wallpapers as well. Apple usually never disappoints and while I'm sure many people use custom wallpapers, I like to use the stock ones. It's part of the MacOS experience for me. I hope they have completed sorted out all the problems Preview had with the early releases of Sierra.
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Installation on Macbook Air Late 2010 VERY slow - at least three times originally indicated 41 minutes - but worth the tedious wait. To be fair, I only had about 10GB SSD spare and forgot to disconnect a USB 2.0 drive used for Time Machine backups, external screen via Mini DisplayPort to DVI adapter, external keyboard and mouse via Buffalo USB3.0 hub.

First boot screen after restart looks like a very dumbed-down, low resolution Apple boot screen with a fat sausage style progress bar. Don't worry, you'll get the original sleeker one back later. (This may have been due to my use of an external display throughout the upgrade.) Also, don't be tempted to give up at several stages where the same time to completion is indicated for up to 20 minutes. It gets you there in the end. Maybe best to leave it all going unattended so you don't stress out over these bugbears and holdups.

Practically all prior software - including surprisingly (given some contrary rumours) Aperture and Microsoft Office 2011 for Mac - seems to load and enable me to load and save changes, though I haven't touched more than 1% of features and functionality. Time Machine backups to USB 2.0 disk and Synology DS213j work fine, though I have not tried restorations!

Safari is indeed subjectively faster, I seem to have gained 1 to 2GB of SSD space and after letting Finder / Spotlight do its indexing, all seems OK with temperatures and fan speed (I use Macs Fan Control with Exhaust - Auto setting).

Only remaining - trivial - annoyance is the three-broken-chopstick App Store icon / logo, which looks like it belongs with the fat sausage style progress bar at the beginning of the upgrade process!

Glad it works. 10.13 on a seven year old Air is taking it almost to the limit. It can be nerve-wracking when an installation seems like it's hanging. I nearly bricked an older iPad with an OTA update that I didn't let finish and finally was able to restore the device in DFU mode after several tries!
 
I have been using High Sierra Beta since it was first released to the public. I am a college instructor and use it on my main Mac mini. It works great with all of my apps, printer test scanners etc. I have had no problems at all. It has been a great experience.

Good to hear that it's working well for you. Since I haven't installed the beta by this point, I'll just until 9/12 when they're probably releasing every OS simultaneously. Going to be a long evening for me. A MacBook Pro, 2 iPhones, iPad, ATV4 and the watch. The watch is the slowest of all. It takes at least half an hour to update the damn thing. My 15" tMBP should take around 20-30 minutes too but that's ok.
 
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