Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of iOS 11.2 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

[sbailey4]

Didn't specifically address the BT in 5S? Keep on going, how about WiFi performance and the privacy issues?

Specifically huh? Not gonna do a lot more research for ya for each device, But..............

"Integration of Bluetooth Low Energy with version 4.0 of the Core Specification was completed in early 2010.[16] The first smartphone to implement the 4.0 specification was the iPhone 4S, released in October 2011.[17] A number of other manufacturers released Bluetooth Low Energy Ready devices in 2012."

iPhone 5s specs
Cellular and Wireless

• Model A1533 (GSM)*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)
• Model A1533 (CDMA)*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)
• Model A1453*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26)
• Model A1457*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
• Model A1530*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20); TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40)
• 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi (802.11n 2.4GHz and 5GHz)
• Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology

If you are scared to use BT or wifi then just turn if off in settings>wifi. Or you could try wearing a tinfoil hat while using your device. Also you can do like everyone else and only add WiFi networks you trust to your list of available ones to use. As for performance, I have no idea why you think having BT or wifi on does anything to performance. Never heard that one before but I can tell you it makes zero difference on any of my devices I have ever owned. If anything it helps it.

 

[ErikGrim]

What settings? Is this a joke? What am I wasting my time in here for?!! THERE ARE ONLY ONE SETTINGS APP ON YOUR IOS DEVICE. YOU HAVE TO GO INTO SETTINGS THEN INTO WIFI THEN TURN IT OFF FOR YOUR AIRPLANE TRICK TO WORK, SO ITS NOT A TRICK, ITS A FOOLS ARGUMENT TO BULLY THE PEOPLE THAT WANT THE OPTION TO USE IT AS IT WAS - WITH 4G ON... HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU GUYS? "IF THE LAST TIME YOU BLA...WELL YES IF THE LAST TIME YOU WENT INTO SETTINS TO COMPLETELY TURN OFF WIFI, AIRPLANE MODE REMEMBERS THAT, SO THERES NO POINT IN EVEN MENTIONING AIRPLANE MODE, CAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO GO INTO SETTINGS TO TURN IT OFF..... THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, IT'S NOT A DEBATE, IT'S NOT A OH YOU WANT THIS BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT KINDA THING.

This is some amazing type of crazy. You okay dude?

I literally posted a gif showing it working exactly as expected: Turn on airplane mode and you can use the buttons to turn the radios on and off. No need to go into any settings.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Dude, this feature isn't going anywhere. Let it go.

Hells no, not letting this backwards thought process for a button go. Yes I've read Apple got user data on this ... but clearly this may have been BIG data of how many people pressed the Control Panel button - NOT what was intently expected by the user. Surely not.

 

[dammerl]

Battery life is majorly improved. Getting several weeks on a charge now with heavy use on my X.

This is because each time you are running your induction stove the iPhone X is silently charging.

 

[strategicthinke]

Hells no, not letting this backwards thought process for a button go. Yes I've read Apple got user data on this ... but clearly this may have been BIG data of how many people pressed the Control Panel button - NOT what was intently expected by the user. Surely not.

The only one thinking backwards are those that prefer the old way.
Get along with the times.

 

[DeepIn2U]

The only one thinking backwards are those that prefer the old way.
Get along with the times.

Lmao so you think the purpose and default of the power button on your Mac should be to sleep or standby vs the standard to Shut Down (prompt or no prompt)? Or the ON switch for Wi-Fi or your home light to be Standby vs ON/OFF, or to screw in a screw anywhere in the world to be Counterclockwise vs clockwise?

This isn’t backwards thinking this is going against standards that even and obviously Apple adhered to until 2017!

Further to this why doesn’t Apple place AirpPlay, Screen rotation, heck even cellular to be standby if they feel his “new” way makes any proper common sense?!

Yeah no argument against any of these standards - stated as their tankards for comparison of common sense. Yet please be my guess to contest why anyone doesn’t suggestion those pints I made above as sound common sense for a new way or non backwards?

 

[righthandofgod]

Will Devs PLEASE provide feedback for bluetooth/wifi in control center to actually turn the functions OFF!!?!? Why Apple implemented the 'temporarily disconnected' buttons has to be one of the most idiotic software updates they have ever made. A user shouldn't have to go into the settings app to turn off this feature.

Not keen on this feature myself to be honest but i can see the need for it for alot of people. would be nice to have force touch to actually turn wifi off as an option too though.

 

[strategicthinke]

Lmao so you think the purpose and default of the power button on your Mac should be to sleep or standby vs the standard to Shut Down (prompt or no prompt)? Or the ON switch for Wi-Fi or your home light to be Standby vs ON/OFF, or to screw in a screw anywhere in the world to be Counterclockwise vs clockwise?

This isn’t backwards thinking this is going against standards that even and obviously Apple adhered to until 2017!

Further to this why doesn’t Apple place AirpPlay, Screen rotation, heck even cellular to be standby if they feel his “new” way makes any proper common sense?!

Yeah no argument against any of these standards - stated as their tankards for comparison of common sense. Yet please be my guess to contest why anyone doesn’t suggestion those pints I made above as sound common sense for a new way or non backwards?

Power buttons only put the Mac to sleep or in stand-by for a long while now. And in most of devices as well, a power button in a TV only puts it in very-low power mode so that you can quickly turn it on again when you want to do so... So much for your definition of what a “power button” should be, lol. Terrible example, my friend... Which leads me to think, where are all the complainers about “unintuitive power buttons” for our TVs and PCS? “I WANT A POWER BUTTON TO POWER IT OFF, NOT JUST STAND-BY. APPLE/SAMSUNG/LENOVO/*INSERT-YOUR-FAVORITE-COMONAY-HERE* IS DOOOOOOOOMED”. Lol.

 

[AnthonyG6]

Hells no, not letting this backwards thought process for a button go. Yes I've read Apple got user data on this ... but clearly this may have been BIG data of how many people pressed the Control Panel button - NOT what was intently expected by the user. Surely not.

I think this feature is great! I only ever used to turn off wifi to temporarily disconnect from the current network. Then sometimes I would forget to turn it back on later, which was a little annoying for me. This feature saves me from ever having to remember to turn it back on, it works like I have always wanted it to work. Thank you Apple.

 

[spacemnspiff]

Specifically huh? Not gonna do a lot more research for ya for each device, But..............

"Integration of Bluetooth Low Energy with version 4.0 of the Core Specification was completed in early 2010.[16] The first smartphone to implement the 4.0 specification was the iPhone 4S, released in October 2011.[17] A number of other manufacturers released Bluetooth Low Energy Ready devices in 2012."

iPhone 5s specs
Cellular and Wireless

• Model A1533 (GSM)*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)
• Model A1533 (CDMA)*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)
• Model A1453*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26)
• Model A1457*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)
• Model A1530*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20); TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40)
• 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi (802.11n 2.4GHz and 5GHz)
• Bluetooth 4.0 wireless technology

If you are scared to use BT or wifi then just turn if off in settings>wifi. Or you could try wearing a tinfoil hat while using your device. Also you can do like everyone else and only add WiFi networks you trust to your list of available ones to use. As for performance, I have no idea why you think having BT or wifi on does anything to performance. Never heard that one before but I can tell you it makes zero difference on any of my devices I have ever owned. If anything it helps it.

Thanks for posting all that information. What I requested was the difference in power consumption between 5s and let's say iPhone 7, even though both support Bluetooth LE, because of the hardware differences the power consumption will be different and might be tangible. Just a blanket statement saying that hardware supports Bluetooth LE is not going to be mean power consumption differences won't exist.

 

[Tonishal]

Noticeably worse battery life on my iPhone X. Battery is dropping overnight even when on Airplane mode.

 

[Skoal]

iOS11 is supported on devices as old as 5s, the onus is on you to prove that devices that are supported with iOS 11 have minimal battery drain, and please show independent results for WiFi and BT.

The issue for me is privacy, there is been hearsay about MAC ID masking for WiFi, but there is no proof and how it works in a real world situation - for eg - MAC ID filtering on a home router. There is plenty of proof that technology companies have products for retailers to track user location and behavior using WiFi and BT. And there are apps that use WiFi and BT location estimation to track user location. I don't want to leave any radios on that I don't have use for.

So once again, the onus is on the claimants to prove their claims about battery life and privacy. Until then Apple should provide a three touch option to turn off WiFi and BT in the CC.

With WiFi clicked off in control center but still on in settings it’s clear that WiFi is still actively observing access points. Which means you can be tracked via WiFi. It would be nice if Apple made it possible to turn it completely off in CC. Just make it a three press option.