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Apple today seeded the fifth beta of an upcoming macOS High Sierra update to developers for testing purposes, two weeks after seeding the fourth beta and two months after introducing the new software at the 2017 Worldwide Developers Conference.

The new macOS High Sierra beta can be downloaded from the Apple Developer Center or over-the-air using the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store.

Today's beta introduces a new option to capture Live Photos while using FaceTime. FaceTime Live Photos was first introduced in the iOS 11 beta.

macOS High Sierra builds on features introduced in macOS Sierra, focusing on new storage, video, and graphics technology. It introduces a new Apple File System (APFS), High Efficiency Video Codec (HEVC), and an updated version of Metal with support for VR and external GPUs.


Several apps are gaining new features in macOS High Sierra. The Photos app is being updated with a new sidebar that makes it easier to access editing tools and albums, and there are new filters and editing options like Curves and Selective Color. Photos also supports external editing apps like Photoshop and Pixelmator, saving changes made in those apps, and it interfaces with new third-party printing services.

Safari is gaining speed enhancements, an option to prevent autoplay videos, and a new feature that puts a stop to cross-site data tracking. Siri in macOS High Sierra has expanded music capabilities and a new, more natural voice, and Spotlight supports flight status information. There are also improvements to iCloud, FaceTime, Messages, and Notes.

macOS High Sierra is available for both registered developers and public beta testers and will see several updates ahead of its expected fall public release.

For a complete overview of changes coming in macOS High Sierra, make sure to check out our dedicated macOS High Sierra roundup.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS High Sierra to Developers
 

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go go go update day
 
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jbachandouris

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I find it interesting that they release the exact same version to public beta testers, sometimes just hours later.

It shows up as the Developer Version in App Store on my MBP and I am not a developer.
 
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jtmacb

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For all of the nifty new features of Photos when will Apple bring back the ability that iPhoto had to type in one Title field and then hit the tab key or arrow key to go to the next photo's title field? This is such a simple request and one I've been making since Photos was released. If I am importing dozens of photos and want go through them one by one to give them a name in the Title field why does Apple now make me use my mouse to select each new title box? That costs additional time and use of the keyboard and/or mouse when it should not be necessary. Apple has a bad habit of taking a perfectly good feature and getting rid of it for no apparent reason.

And I don't need to hear from all of the users that say I should be using other programs with my photos. Nothing was a simple as putting a SSD card in my iMac, opening iPhotos, selecting the photos I wanted to import and automatically putting them where I wanted them to go, then selecting the first photo to give it a name and then tabbing to the next and then the next and so on until I had labeled every photo. Now you have to first import your photos, then create a new Album then drag those photos into the album then follow the process I described above. It just makes no sense and should be corrected to make it a better user experience.

After all, I thought that is what Steve Jobs always wanted for his customers.
 

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For all of the nifty new features of Photos when will Apple bring back the ability that iPhoto had to type in one Title field and then hit the tab key or arrow key to go to the next photo's title field? This is such a simple request and one I've been making since Photos was released. If I am importing dozens of photos and want go through them one by one to give them a name in the Title field why does Apple now make me use my mouse to select each new title box? That costs additional time and use of the keyboard and/or mouse when it should not be necessary. Apple has a bad habit of taking a perfectly good feature and getting rid of it for no apparent reason.

And I don't need to hear from all of the users that say I should be using other programs with my photos. Nothing was a simple as putting a SSD card in my iMac, opening iPhotos, selecting the photos I wanted to import and automatically putting them where I wanted them to go, then selecting the first photo to give it a name and then tabbing to the next and then the next and so on until I had labeled every photo. Now you have to first import your photos, then create a new Album then drag those photos into the album then follow the process I described above. It just makes no sense and should be corrected to make it a better user experience.

After all, I thought that is what Steve Jobs always wanted for his customers.
Steve Jobs has been gone for almost 6 years.
 

Markoth

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I wish there was more to the High Seirra update than eGPU support, APFS, and an updated Safari. I hope APFS is incredible!
Filesystems are only incredible to those of us geeky enough to know how they work, and appreciate them. APFS will be incredible to the average person in direct comparison with HFS+, but pretty soon most people won't notice it, and forget it's even there. You don't notice good filesystems.
 

nutmac

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I wish there was more to the High Seirra update than eGPU support, APFS, and an updated Safari. I hope APFS is incredible!

High Sierra is Snow Leopard 2.0. There are lots of small fixes and changes under the hood but the focus is on stability and performance.

Apple's quote: "New technologies at the heart of the system make your Mac more reliable, capable, and responsive — and lay the foundation for future innovations. macOS High Sierra also refines the features and apps you use every day. It’s macOS at its highest level yet."

Don't expect any major changes from APFS. It's meant to be unnoticeable for non-developers and non-power users. Like iOS 10.3 before it, any perceived improvements will be subtle at best (e.g., slight increase in free space, faster file operation in small use cases).
 
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I wish there was more to the High Seirra update than eGPU support, APFS, and an updated Safari. I hope APFS is incredible!

They should use the Windows 10 update model and keep the OS constantly fresh and updated to latest APIs and optimisations. macOS very rarely has updated driver optimisations after the beta stage and many months after. As for APIs..behind Linux.
 

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For all of the nifty new features of Photos when will Apple bring back the ability that iPhoto had to type in one Title field and then hit the tab key or arrow key to go to the next photo's title field? This is such a simple request and one I've been making since Photos was released. If I am importing dozens of photos and want go through them one by one to give them a name in the Title field why does Apple now make me use my mouse to select each new title box? That costs additional time and use of the keyboard and/or mouse when it should not be necessary. Apple has a bad habit of taking a perfectly good feature and getting rid of it for no apparent reason.

And I don't need to hear from all of the users that say I should be using other programs with my photos. Nothing was a simple as putting a SSD card in my iMac, opening iPhotos, selecting the photos I wanted to import and automatically putting them where I wanted them to go, then selecting the first photo to give it a name and then tabbing to the next and then the next and so on until I had labeled every photo. Now you have to first import your photos, then create a new Album then drag those photos into the album then follow the process I described above. It just makes no sense and should be corrected to make it a better user experience.

After all, I thought that is what Steve Jobs always wanted for his customers.

I know it might not meet your own use requirements, but the push is towards metadata rather than just file or photo names, that's probably why Apple don't see this as a big issue.
 

StevieD100

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They should use the Windows 10 update model and keep the OS constantly fresh and updated to latest APIs and optimisations. macOS very rarely has updated driver optimisations after the beta stage and many months after. As for APIs..behind Linux.
The last thing we want is forced updates and lost work.
Sorry, but no, that is not what is needed.
 

Vashetti

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2015 MBP 13" running very hot after the update.

"What's New in High Sierra" and "What's new in Photos (when I opened Photos)" prompts appeared on boot too. Close to final release?
 
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The last thing we want is forced updates and lost work.
Sorry, but no, that is not what is needed.
It hasn't hurt Windows 10 users. The slow ring and fast ring has very extensive testing.

On macOS we wait for Apple to catch up with the industry. On Win10 they immediately integrate new technologies. That's sad because under Jobs it was the Mac that did that many times.
 

Negaiido

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2015 MBP 13" running very hot after the update.

"What's New in High Sierra" and "What's new in Photos (when I opened Photos)" prompts appeared on boot too. Close to final release?

Based on previous releases I'm certain High Sierra won't release until mid September to end of September.
 
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Mike Haas

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Downloading. Anyone know if this has resolved the issue some of us had with iTunes and Photos refusing to mount iPhones and iPads? This issue, believed to be a problem with USB 3 channel, carried over into VMware and devices would not mount in iTunes in Windows 10 either. Some experienced this issue only while using Filevault but I did not.

EDIT: It resolved the USB issue and iTunes and Photos mount devices properly.
 
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