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Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS High Sierra to Developers
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2.33 GB vs 2.21 GB for DP4. Installation included 2 reboots but overall it was faster.
I am with you there. The win10 update is causing lots of headaches for us.
Ugh, please No, windows update really sucks.
I think the way Apple Updates are done is not what it used to be, before I could manually install, it was faster and I could chose the exact time of a restart.
No, Steve wll always be with us.
MacOs is still way ahead of W10, the only few things I dislike about MacOs nowadays is the slow boot and shutdown times (Yet not a big deal since I never shut down my Macs) and the Update procedure, liked it before in the older days.
I have attempted two downloads of High Sierra on two separate occasions without any luck. I tried to update an external HD running MacOS Sierra and HD kept experiencing kernel panics. Then I waited for a few beta updates and tried another external SSD and again kernel panics. I have been testing beta's for quite some time but this is the first iteration of the OS that I have given up on. I will just wait for the first public iteration.....disappointed.
Firmware update included here. So far it seems to be much smoother on my Early 2011 MBP. Memory usage is much improved also.
That is not a quantifiable statement.
On several forums on his site people who installed Windows 10 have put it ahead of macOS on almost every aspect apart from 'interface uniformity' and font rendering.
I was the first person on this forum to install Win10 on a Mac and gave everyone a very thorough review, benchmark and feature test. I don't need to convince you of any of the above. There are thousands of posts by members highlighting that Windows outperformed macOS on:
- Interface speed, split screen feature, multi tasking animations
- video acceleration, HEVC 10bit 4K decoding on GPU. Not even High Sierra offers this.
- software decoding of HEVC 10bit 4K even on a crappy dual core Skylake Pentium. This isn't possible even on the best i7 with High Sierra
- Video encoding, 4x faster in Premiere due to native driver support for GPU encode.
- always up to date APIs such as OpenCL, OpenGL, Vulkan, OpenAl, etc.
- 3D performance in any game is faster
- CUDA and OpenCL based rendering is on average 15% faster
- Ever optimised drivers for just about any peripheral or hardware
- software for tuning CPUs, GPUs and SSDs
- Native support for eGPU, NVME, USB 3.1, Thunderbolt 3, and other next gen tech long before macOS
- True plug and play. Nice not needing to reboot every time a driver is installed.
Anyway I'm tired of stating the obvious. Objective observations are important otherwise might as well believe the earth is flat.
ROFL and 'What are you smoking?"
I spent the last 20 years of my working life writing software for MS platforms.(and 20+ years before that on Mainframes, Unix and VMS). Microsoft do very little real testing. They rely on us poor users to do it for them. In 2015 had a whole Factory just two hours from going out of action due to their lack of testing. In one update to Server 2012 they missed a file that was critical to MSCS operations. Only our final testing found it before we rolled the update out to some 60 MSCS cluster pairs. It took MS two weeks to sort it out and re-issue the patch.
Then we had the foot in mouth about Paint.exe a week or so ago. They are forcing change on users. The majority of them don't want the latest shiny-shiny, oh dear it crashed bit of bling. They want it to work when they want it and consistently.
Oh, and the irritating habit that W10 has of replacing user installed Graphics drivers with out of date ones. The Windows forums have hundreds of complaints about this.
My stress levels and B.P. have both gone down considerably since I retired and stopped using Windows.
Their update model and the way that you can't refuse the update on W10 is not the way to go for Apple.
Even WSUS is not immune to major foopahs.
I've never had an OSX update fail on me but there again, I always wait a couple of weeks before applying it.
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I have both a 2012 Mini and 2012 MBP, the hardware is more or less the same, when one gets a firmware Update the other one gets one too, my MBP installed this beta just fine with a firmware Update, my MM did not finish the Update, I saw there was only the 10.13beta file and no others, just now it couldn't install, it then downloaded the other files as well but now it says that the download files has changed.
One way or the other I get problems installing on my MM since the first 10.13 beta, my MBP is fine.
Release notes say:
Supported Configurations
...Mac Pro: 2010 or newer
Your biased is all I can say, but hey, you don't have to convince me and many here on MR, go somewhere else with your Windows stuff.
This hasn't happened to me and I've tested 7 GPUs over the last two years.
You post that howler to me after I've been beta testing every macOS since 1999?
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If you hung out on the Pro forums with us you'd know me better. I bench and test the hell out of every aspect of a computer. I'm not some guy from the iPad section.
I love these posts. Tell that to the 1600 tickets sitting in my CRM all of them are escalated issues all running Windows 10.
Works on all Mac Pro 5,1, even the flashed 4,1: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...in-high-sierra-for-cmp.2060505/#post-24873957
That's nothing new. Firmware updates have been included with every update since 10.10.2 - both public releases and betas.
I think what is new is that we seem to be getting a recovery hd update with every update to high sierra.
There have been occasions in the past that this was provided for some beta updates, but certainly not all.
So far every high sierra beta got a recovery hd update.
Whatever issues those are they have nothing to do with the feature and performance list I posted above.
Every known operating system has a list of escalated issues. Don't act like people just blissfully sit there using macOS with no issues. On the Pro forums you see years worth of complaints.
Shades of "Manos, The Hands Of Fate."
[doublepost=1502136064][/doublepost]Are there some more details available about APFS?
1. Is it only supported on internal drives? What's the process for external drives - Disk Utility?
2. Is there a migration path?
3. How different is it from HFS+? Will old disk recovery tools (Disk Warrior) need to be abandoned (at least until they presumably update to add APFS support)?
4. I'd have to assume that it's still usable over Fusion drives and/or FileVault...?
Oh dear lord please no! If they force updates I'll never update again and drop Mac entirely. I hate forced updates. I'll update when I'm ready and I know the updates will not break my programs on my machine or impede my work flow.
I despise Windows 10 for this very reason.