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On my 2017 iMac, I can only shutdown or restart from the terminal... Already reinstalled, but with no effect.
 
Same here. I filed feedback and have now reverted back to 12.5 b4.

But now my Messages aren't showing with 12.5 b4.

EDIT: Logging out of Messages and logging back in fixed the Messages problem after going back to 12.5 b4
Can I ask how did you revert ?
 
Anyone else seeing Safari not opening a new browser window with a Cmd-n if you don't already have a browser window open?
Safari along with Edge, Brave Chrome & Firefox. Safari & Edge only opening first link clicked from an e mail, 2nd link & nothing happens. The others are not opening at all - all worked fine with he previous Beta
 
I downloaded the full installer for 12.5 b4 from the Apple servers via the link on the Mr Macintosh website.

Cool, thanks, can one install 12.5 b4 over 12.5 b5... i.e. like an upgrade, or does one have to do a complete install from fresh and restore from backup etc... I would like to roll back to b4 but only if a fairly quick rollback....

Thanks in advance..

A.
 
Something horrible here - right click on Documents or Applications in the dock and click "Open in Finder" and I get an error, "The application Finder can't be opened -609".
Finder can still be opened by double clicking the Macintosh HD icon.
Upgraded from b4. The only other new thing was uninstalling Intel MS Teams and installing AS MS Teams.

Dominic

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Same here. I filed feedback and have now reverted back to 12.5 b4.

But now my Messages aren't showing with 12.5 b4.

EDIT: Logging out of Messages and logging back in fixed the Messages problem after going back to 12.5 b4


For me, disabling BetterTouchTool stopped these pop ups. As soon as I go to enable it again, those same errors come up over and over and over....
It's disheartening to see that just logging out of Messages fixed it for you.
 
For me, disabling BetterTouchTool stopped these pop ups. As soon as I go to enable it again, those same errors come up over and over and over....
It's disheartening to see that just logging out of Messages fixed it for you.
You might want to reread jscol's post. They reverted to B4, then Messages stopped working until they logged out/in of iMessage.
It's reverting back from B5 to B4 that fixed the main issues.
 
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Cool, thanks, can one install 12.5 b4 over 12.5 b5... i.e. like an upgrade, or does one have to do a complete install from fresh and restore from backup etc... I would like to roll back to b4 but only if a fairly quick rollback....

Thanks in advance..

A.
I just ran the full installer for b4 on top of the 12.5 b5 installation, just like an upgrade (i.e. no need to do a wipe and install, or restore from back-up). The only problem I encountered was with Messages as mentioned earlier, but that was easily fixed by logging out of Messages and back in again.

Your still are using the newer system FW from 12.5 b5, as a FYI. Shouldn’t be a problem with your work around for issue.

Indeed, I am aware that the 12.5 b5 firmware and restore utility are still on the b5 version using this method, but reverting to b4 system software is enough to solve the issues I was having. When 12.5 is finally released, I'll run that full installer to update the firmware, if necessary.
 
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Anyone else seeing Safari not opening a new browser window with a Cmd-n if you don't already have a browser window open?

I'm not sure if this is the same issue I'm having, but something similar just started happening to me after updating...

Open Application (such as Mail)
Click the Red Circle to "close" the app (but don't quit the app)

Normally, when I click on the app again in the dock, the app window appears again instantly. Now, when I click the app icon again, nothing happens. Even when I right-click and select "Show All Windows", I see my desktop with a message saying "No Available Windows".
 
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Also, clicking on minimized applications in the dock isn't opening the window. I have to right-click and select a window (even if there's only one) from the list. It's not consistent though - some work and some do not.

I'm having the same problem! But even when I try the "Show All Windows" option, that also sometimes doesn't work and shows me my desktop and says "No Available Windows".
 
Using Applescript to manipulate Finder windows seems to be hosed.

Dropbox is behaving weirdly.

Apps that scrobble Music -- like Neptunes.app are not working.

Craziest beta I have seen in a while.

-- Tom
 
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Using Applescript to manipulate Finder windows seems to be hosed.

Dropbox is behaving weirdly.

Apps that scrobble Music -- like Neptunes.app are not working.

Craziest beta I have seen in a while.

-- Tom
I'm actually glad to see the Applescript problem isn't just an issue with Terminal, that means it's a wider bug more likely to be fixed quickly.
 
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I just ran the full installer for b4 on top of the 12.5 b5 installation, just like an upgrade (i.e. no need to do a wipe and install, or restore from back-up). The only problem I encountered was with Messages as mentioned earlier, but that was easily fixed by logging out of Messages and back in again.



Indeed, I am aware that the 12.5 b5 firmware and restore utility are still on the b5 version using this method, but reverting to b4 system software is enough to solve the issues I was having. When 12.5 is finally released, I'll run that full installer to update the firmware, if necessary.
Thanks for your feedback.
 
Just backed out to 12.5 b4 (i.e. reinstalled over the top of 12.5 b5) and all ok now.
There was a bunch of other odd things - e.g. applications wouldn't quit - which are ok again.
Beta 2 to 3 to 4 all had gradual improvements, but b5 was a bit of a disaster for me.

I'm on a MBP 16" M1 Max 10/32 64GB 2TB

Dominic
 
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Just backed out to 12.5 b4 (i.e. reinstalled over the top of 12.5 b5) and all ok now.
There was a bunch of other odd things - e.g. applications wouldn't quit - which are ok again.
Beta 2 to 3 to 4 all had gradual improvements, but b5 was a bit of a disaster for me.

I'm on a MBP 16" M1 Max 10/32 64GB 2TB

Dominic
Same here. It also kinda shows that just because it's an "a" build doesn't mean it's any more stable or near final.
 
I can’t even open an app from the dock I need to right click it and choose open etc.

This is a disaster, and my guess is that 12.5 will get released on Friday with the new MBP m2
 
Something horrible here - right click on Documents or Applications in the dock and click "Open in Finder" and I get an error, "The application Finder can't be opened -609".
Finder can still be opened by double clicking the Macintosh HD icon.
Upgraded from b4. The only other new thing was uninstalling Intel MS Teams and installing AS MS Teams.

Dominic

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same error, Mac mini late 2014
 
The most advanced piece of sh*t, er, uh, operating system in the the world.

If I have any app open and, while that is active, right click and do 'Get Info' on a desktop item, that info window opens behind everything else.

Start a TM backup and then logout...backup is immediately killed. 100,000 point basement dwellers on Apple forums say that behavior is normal...even though no prior versions of the OS work that way.

Can't do TM backups via Thunderbolt Bridge. Basically hangs. I can copy files over TB bridge, though. Upside is that backups over WiFi appear to work (unlike under Big Sur).

-Rick
 
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Something horrible here - right click on Documents or Applications in the dock and click "Open in Finder" and I get an error, "The application Finder can't be opened -609".
Finder can still be opened by double clicking the Macintosh HD icon.
Upgraded from b4. The only other new thing was uninstalling Intel MS Teams and installing AS MS Teams.

Dominic

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Same for multiple applications MacBook Pro 14”
 
You would be surprised, I was on Windows 11, pressed Windows key + . to enter the flag of my home country and couldn’t find it. Switched over to Big Sur and done. These little things sometimes turn out to be a big deal.
Windows emoji don't include country flags, unless you install a third-party typeface.
 
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