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I get lots fewer beach balls on Sierra when compared to El Capitan but I have noticed Sierra does not play with VMWare Fusion as well and it takes far longer to boot. A full system restart (OS X and 2 VM's: 1 for XP and one for Win10) with opening Word/Excel/XCode/Mail/Word(Win10)/preview/Safari can take me 15-20 minutes while El Capitan took about 5-10 minutes.

Old 2009 iMac with 1TB mechanical HD and 16GB RAM. Looking forward to new iMac options....

EL Cap and Sierra are design for Solid State Hard Drives (SSD) so you should change your hard drive in order to have a much better performance out of your old machine
 
EL Cap and Sierra are design for Solid State Hard Drives (SSD) so you should change your hard drive in order to have a much better performance out of your old machine

Your right and when APFS is released it's kind of pointless to have a HDD as then it's totally optimaized for SSD.
 
IMO ... nightshift is not such an important feature.... particularly for a non-mobile operating system.
The vast majority of workforce don't look at their computer screens at night so this doesn't benefit them.

Apple should spend their effort improving other areas of OSX.

Workforce? Pretty sure there are plenty of people using their computers at night who can benefit from this...
 
I really wish they'd save the front page posting of this news until they have some substance regarding what's changed in the release. If we never get substance, then it never goes on front page.

It's just that a version bump in itself isn't really news, it's a change of a digit.

Totally disagree. Sorry.

But if there was no "substance" as you call it, then apple would not have released a new beta.

"Just a version bump"? Well there has to be a reason for it otherwise apple wouldn't have done it just for the sake of changing the number.

And it certainly IS news. I often find out about new betas on the front page of macrumors before logging into apple's developer portal to get the new seed note and checking for updates in the mac app store.

So I would be happy for macrumors to continue posting such information on their front page.
 
F.lux is not going away, as you can have 3 different settings depending on the time of the day (day, evening, night). This is not possible with Night Shift.
 
I can't wait for the stable release. Actually I can't wait for all the OS releases. iOS 10.3 is a big deal and anything that adds further refinement to the watch and atv 4 is welcome. I suspect they'll launch all 4 on the same day.

Nightshift is a feature I use all the time on my iPhone and iPad. While I'm usually not using my macbook after 10pm there are times I just need to work on something. No more need for f.lux now. I also hope that they have done something under the hood to further improve the battery life for my 15" touchbar. Right now it's better than average but definitely not as good as the mid-2015 15". Overall I'm still very happy with this machine and the keyboard has quickly grown on me. It's much better than all the hysteria would lead you to believe.
 
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Downloading now. Let's see if this beta allows me to play a video via HDMI-connected display. Beta 4 seemed to break that function on macOS and iOS. (Either that, or my cable and projector changed!)
 
wonder if they fixed the currency conversion bug in spotlight, stopped working with the previous beta. Downloading now, will revert with update if they have.
 
F.lux is not going away, as you can have 3 different settings depending on the time of the day (day, evening, night). This is not possible with Night Shift.

Many people will continue to use it, but for those that like to have their machine use as little resources as possible, nothing can beat a native solution. Much like all of the popular jailbreak features that iOS has incorporated. It just seems redundant. Calendars, reminders, notes are a different story.
 
IMO ... nightshift is not such an important feature.... particularly for a non-mobile operating system.
The vast majority of workforce don't look at their computer screens at night so this doesn't benefit them.

Apple should spend their effort improving other areas of OSX.
I welcome any new features and improvements to make it even more reliable and faster. Especially Safari needs attention in working with mixed environments (sharepoint and freezes).
Bring it on :)
 
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Is Night Shift good enough to drop f.lux for?

It depends. While it isn't as robust as f.lux, the simplicity and glitchless operation is enough for me. I have too many issues with f.lux causing flickering and it randomly turning itself off, which is quite jarring in a dark room.

If you don't experience these issues with f.lux, it would win from customizability.
 
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IMO ... nightshift is not such an important feature.... particularly for a non-mobile operating system.
The vast majority of workforce don't look at their computer screens at night so this doesn't benefit them.

Apple should spend their effort improving other areas of OSX.

No one said it was an important feature, it's just one of the dozens of changes going into this minor update. This is not a major OS update in the first place.

Also, macOS isn't tailored for the "vast majority of workforce" either, it's for everyone to use. I know a lot of devs who work better during the evening/night than day time and some already love NightShift.

New features? No I don't want that, I want a stable OS. So Apple, please can you do bug fixes and tune the OS instead of adding functions.

Save that for the 10.13 release insted.

This is a bug fixing update and also major releases should be stable as well. Apple shouldn't be postponing stability fixes at all, it should be stable from the get-go.

What's this obsession with Night Shift? How about more stability, compatibility, and restoration of lost features (i.e. Disk Utility currently stinks, bad)?

There is no obsession with NightShift, Apple added it in the first beta seed as a minor feature in a very minor OS update, it is one of the hundreds of changes happening for the 10.12.4 update and the only reason MR keeps talking about NightShift all the time is because that is the only visible change.
 
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