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Download beta 1, then run software update to get beta 3, or is your computer not updating to beta 3 once you've installed beta 1?
My Mac Pro 4,1 crashes during install, I'm just shy of 4GB of ram, I think that's the problem, I was hoping that a newer beta would install anyway. :\
 
The install ran oddly without the usual screens. Would anyone know if having the correct build number (16A286a) is a sure sign the beta installed completely?
 
Honestly I feel so relieved about this. Because since beta 4 I've been having more issues than with beta 3. Three crashes already since last week (compared to none with beta 3). Pretty bad. Of course I know it's a beta, so 'I shouldn't complain'. But the fact that beta 3 seemed more stable than beta 4... That's not good, right?

Hope this one fixes those issues.

Same here. Repeated crashes. I finally reformatted back to El Capitan with a clean install and then reupgraded to Sierra. It's better, but still has heavy fan usage, Safari has problems, etc.
 
The install ran oddly without the usual screens. Would anyone know if having the correct build number (16A286a) is a sure sign the beta installed completely?

Yeah, it'd be fine. Operating systems have a tendency to either install completely, or not at all. If it's the right build number then you're all good. :)
 
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Same here. Activity Monitor shows it's largely the Calendar Agent and other associated processes.
This happened in El Capitan all the time. Now Sierra does the same, although, less intrusive. Many times Mac just freeze and extremely slow to respond. After forcing quit calendar agent process it goes back to normal.
 
Since you said "default" behaviour, then you know that Option-clicking the green button gives you the traditional Zoom (which is not always the same as Maximize) behaviour. Some apps do Maximize, others just Zoom to accommodate the content shown in the window.

Full-screen is very useful with multiple Spaces or desktops. Four fingers swipe left-and-right to switch spaces. It's a very useful workflow. Or multiple monitors to achieve the same thing. Combine that with split-screen view (each of which is always "full-screen" in its own rightful size), and you have a blend between full-screen and multiple windows in the same space.

Overall, it's a very powerful and flexible window-management feature set. Spaces used to confuse me to no end, but they really cleaned up their behaviour.

You're assuming desktop users have a trackpad. None of those features you mention matter at all to those who have zero desire to use them, and there are MANY people like that. The mouse is still the better pointing device on a desktop.
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I agree there should be an option to change this behavior in System Preferences, just because full screen doesn't meet your and your coworker usage doesn't make it useless.
And yes SIP is still screwing us over.

It's useless to those who don't need it, but Apple enforces it without any workaround for 'choice'.
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Couldn't disagree more. Logic Pro full screen. Safari on another. iTunes on another. Guitar Pro on the next. 4-finger swipe and I'm immediately on the other one I want. Smooth as silk.

I think full screen is perfect if you're working with multiple desktops. Especially when you're using content-rich creative applications like FCPX and Photoshop, you really need all the space you can get.

So the 100 people in my office building are all wrong just because YOU like it? I didn't say remove the feature. I clearly said adding an OPTION to change it.
 
Have they finally given the option to change the default behaviour of the green button to expand to maximum instead of going fullscreen? I have 100 people in my office building and nobody uses fullscreen on a laptop or desktop, they all hate it. There's NO point in fullscreen on a large screen.

And what about a proper cut/paste command (ctl+x / ctrl+v) in Finder? Is System Integrity Protection still screwing over developers like TotalFinder?
Am I to understand that command + V, X C etc. have been nixed??
 
This please!! I hate it to use Command+Option+V, it's such an annoying 'shortcut'. It makes more sense to have indeed something like Ctrl+X / Ctrl+V.

It's been requested so many times but Apple still refuses to acknowledge their current boneheaded implementation. ctrl+x/ctrl+v is cut and paste (moving) in every system and application EXCEPT the Finder! What the HELL is wrong with Apple?

If it weren't for System Integrity Protection, I wouldn't make such a fuss about it since we could still use stuff like TotalFinder or XtraFinder.

Am I to understand that command + V, X C etc. have been nixed??

No, you simply cannot cut and paste files and folders in El Capitan (or Sierra it seems). You have to press and hold CMD while dragging and dropping. In MS Windows you can select a bunch of files and folders, press ctrl+x and they fade out slightly, telling you which files are about to be moved. Then you go to any folder you want and press ctrl+v to paste them into said folder (you get contextual menus for cut/paste by right clicking in a window as well).
 
Ctrl+ left/right arrow key to navigate multiple desktops. Just as easy.

Look, I don't use it and neither do the 100 people in my office use it and many other people on this forum. Nobody needs nor wants it. I'm asking to simply add the OPTION of changing the green button behaviour to make windows maximize without hiding the dock and file menu up top because they are NEEDED.
 
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Look, I don't use it and neither do the 100 people in my office use it and many other people on this forum. Nobody needs nor wants it. I'm asking to simply add the OPTION of changing the green button behaviour to make windows maximize without hiding the dock and file menu up top because they are NEEDED.

That's exactly what it is. The option key. Hold that and it won't full screen.

Ok, so you can't change it by default. But it's a pretty small niggle on the scale of things.
 
Someday perhaps Apple will do something meaningful with OS X updates and add Vulkan support, and fix their abysmal OpenGL driver.

Metal is the way.

Face it, nobody is going to support Vulkan.

1st, only AMD is supporting it, meaning only about 50% of the Windows market.

2nd, DirectX 12 will be the standard on Windows PC's and Xbox.

Telling developers that Vulkan is okay is a shot in the foot, will rule out future nVidia cards, which the majority would prefer, and currently are better for laptops.
 
Because Siri is not a microphone

You need a microphone to interact with Siri, so it's perfectly fitting. iOS displays a Microphone button when Siri is active and ready to accept commands. This makes perfect sense. I suspect that they're not using a microphone icon to avoid the confusion with dictation, which is also represented by a microphone. It could also be that they want the icon to represent the whole feature as opposed to just start listening. I hope it's one of these reasons, because having a multi-coloured waveform in a circle is not really "iconic". It's just art.
 
is Anyone having problems with 10.12 on mapping smb drive via apple script. in the past you can write a script to include the username and password for mapping. Now it pops up with that info. the user must hit connect. that is weird.
same issue.. my drives are mapped at logon.. The drives were dragged to login items (no applescript involved) and I get the mapping dialog at each login.
 
You're assuming desktop users have a trackpad. None of those features you mention matter at all to those who have zero desire to use them, and there are MANY people like that. The mouse is still the better pointing device on a desktop.
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It's useless to those who don't need it, but Apple enforces it without any workaround for 'choice'.
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So the 100 people in my office building are all wrong just because YOU like it? I didn't say remove the feature. I clearly said adding an OPTION to change it.

Much of your post is very subjective. Not saying that the 100 people in your building are wrong, although I strongly doubt that you actually asked all 100 of them. It seems more that you're so passionate about doing things a certain way that you can't see it being done any other way. That's okay and perfectly normal, but it doesn't discount the other ways of doing something that MANY other people use and enjoy every day. :)
 
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I have 100 people in my office building and nobody uses fullscreen on a laptop or desktop, they all hate it. There's NO point in fullscreen on a large screen.

Well, then those are folks in your office aren't power users... I know and work with more than 50 power users. Full Screen is indispensable - and about THE MOST valuable asset that Apple has brought about since years.

Since they featured it I have been using it full time and never bother min. any windows. Swiping thru' apps with mouse or trackpad is amazing...

It takes time getting used to. If one is stuck on a one way street in his head - he is likely to discard new as bad. Which in this case Fullscreen isnt.

To anyone reading this.... Give Fullscreen a shot for a few weeks, get to know it. I promise you won't go back.

Same goes i.e. for 3-Finger Drag on the Trackpad. Most folks I see actually CLICK the trackpad as if they would be using a trackpad from 1998. 3-Finger drag takes TIME to get used to but once you master it, you can quadruple your productivity if heavily relying on a trackpad to get work done... Editing in Video Editor using the 3-Finger Drag and other advanced Trackpad gestures, you can work twice as fast as with a mouse.

Might I add that most Mac users dont even know of this feature and those who do haven't enabled it !!!
 
I'm curious about something — how many of you that install the beta use the Feedback Assistant to tell Apple about the problems that you experience? Do you find it convenient or too cumbersome to constantly "send" feedback using that app?

I personally feel that all beta users should be sending in the feedback, as that's the whole point of the beta program... for Apple to collect data to squash bugs and improve the system. Difficult for them to enforce that, though.
 
Much of your post is very subjective. Not saying that the 100 people in your building are wrong, although I strongly doubt that you actually asked all 100 of them. It seems more that you're so passionate about doing things a certain way that you can't see it being done any other way. That's okay and perfectly normal, but it doesn't discount the other ways of doing something that MANY other people use and enjoy every day. :)

Which is why said there needs to be an OPTION.

I don't understand why I keep have to repeat myself, are you guys even reading the full post? Just add an OPTION to change the behaviour in system preferences... maybe like this:

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