Oh good grief. You damn them if they do, you damn them if they don't.
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Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of Upcoming macOS Catalina 10.15.5 Update to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]
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Oh good grief. You damn them if they do, you damn them if they don't.
It does. Been fixed since Dev Beta 3.
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Proper code version management would eliminate most of the problems we are seeing. Things are breaking that we’re previously fixed in prior builds. Then they’re introducing new problems with subsequent builds when the code in question wasn’t even being worked on.
That wreaks of shoddy or entirely absent code version management.
In layman’s terms the basic process is (especially when multiple developers are working on different OS components)
1. Developer checks out latest development build and works on specific code.
2. Developer checks modified code back in using a code merge process that ensures code modified by other developers since last check out is not overwritten.
This is usually managed by software and an enterprise like Apple can afford the best. Something tells me they’re possibly using a homegrown system and it just wasn’t built to scale. Now they manage many builds of different hardware where in the early days of iOS and MacOS it had a linear and predictable cadence.
Yes software is complex. And that is why you must have the upmost competence to properly develop it.
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Not here. I've tested every Public Beta release to no avail. Testing today's public beta 5...
EDIT: Nope. This thing still freezing/stuttering when using the iGPU. And I'm sure soon will kernel panic. I lost faith in Apple. This is dissapointing coming from an entire life on fine Windows PCs, and in a machine this overpriced. Do these guys have any kind of adequate QA?
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What users appreciate is that when they went to school, they were graded on answering questions and solving problems correctly. Their grades in class affected their ability to get accepted into college, graduate school, medical school, or law school. Even in college computer science classes, student projects are marked down if there are problems with the work. In many jobs, people can be written up, demoted or possibly fired for work performance issues. But all this seems totally different compared to software developers who seem to be given free passes all the time. It makes one question the point of going to college, getting good grades, or doing well at work.
Ah yes. Well. If you had installed 10.15.4. Sadly you will need to do a complete wipe of your system. And then a fresh install of 10.15.4 and update to the beta.
It’s frustrating as hell but I’ve been testing this since the release of 10.15.4 on two identical (brand new) 16” MacBook Pros. One with 10.15.3 and the other with 10.15.4. Then upgraded both to beta 3.
The machine with 10.15.3 originally had no issues post upgrade.
The other machine had partial resolution but then started to exhibit yet more and other kernel panics. The complete wipe (and I mean deleting the petitions and repartitioning the system then doing an internet restore) fixed it. No KPs since and it’s been using PowerNap and all other default power management functions perfectly fine.
Some folks need a Snickers bar. It is not unprecedented at all that a macOS update is dropped days after the other ones. Who knows when the release is actually planned? These comments to the effect that "it was supposed to be today but they broke it because they're incompetent" are silly.
As long as it’ll fix the MacBook Pro 2016 kernel panic issues I’m ok with waiting another day or two
At least for me, 10.15.5 beta solved issues connecting to external displays and kernel panics on wake introduced by 10.15.4.
Well - Airplay 2 has been supported since macOS 10.14 (from around Q1/Q2 2019) - here is a small run through how it works: https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/use-airplay-on-mac-1578
But still not with the stereo option from a macOS device.
The heating issue with external displays, or is there another issue that comes from connecting to them?
If you think that "feature" will just magically improve your battery health, you're wrong. It's not that Macs didn't have some kind of battery management before, this is just a very minor improvement.Ahhh common Apple! I was hoping for the final release today
I want that battery feature so bad because I am very hectic with the way I handle the battery on the MBP....
€dit: changed life to health.
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Please make distinction between battery life and battery health.
Of course, one influences the other.
But battery health comes from having a good charging behavior and battery life, as a result of a battery health as well, is dependent on how you run apps and how you use the machine.
I am hoping for a feature that helps charging habits to improve health.
I do not expect to have more battery life as in "being able to gain 1 extra hour".
And I need to correct my statement: improve health... mainly because battery health degrades anyway.
but anything that would lessen the battery degradation would help.
The goal is to have the highest load charge possible for the longest time possible
i plan to keep my MBP 15’’ 2018 for a longer time Until Apple comes with something much better and of course, I have financial situation that allows mento replace it
It's really annoying but i'm glad after that extra update a few weeks ago i am able to actually reboot my mac. before that i couldn't anymore! Super annoying.
Now it looks like you have two docks overlapping each other when you shut down, and only the first one disappears but the second one remains visible.
I understand what your saying but it also smacks of a reply from someone that isn’t in the field to understand the challenges.
It’s not all the developers fault, there will be timelines to hit which often means unless it is truly broken, it’s going to ship on that date bugs and all.
Then you’ve the issue that software is complex as the other poster mentioned plus getting more complex as time goes by. This creates a shortage of people skilled enough that companies have to accept less skilled people than they’d really like. We are heading towards peak complexity.You can always make software more complex but the humans cannot keep up. At some point it becomes too complex that only a few can understand it.
I’m pretty sure Apple is doing their best. It’s not like Windows or Linux don’t have bugs either...
I am installing the public beta on my iMac. Just curious to see if the problem with the iCloud bookmarks got resolved. Apple told me in Februar that they were working on a fix..
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ha.. sounds like a problem from the 90's... We've come a long way . . Not..
I finally had to upgrade to catalina last night just to get my Mojave appstore working again. fun.. Sounds like this beta is almost GTM, so I might as well wait on this one.
I can confirm that this update does not solve the iCloud bookmarks syncing issue, caused by failure to migrate the dataset to CloudKit..
oh noooooooo, I have 2015 MBP and I thought I'd finally jump on to Cataliana but I guess not....
Sadly, I suspect Mr. Cook would appreciate that compliment as that seems to be the high bar he has set for his supply chain goals.