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Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 to Developers

I don't understand why would apple hold off 10.13.5 for upcoming device if any. And those comments received lot of "like".

There must be other reasons rather than "keeping the secrets", otherwise whats the point of previous Betas?

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BTW iOS 11.4 released yesterday with AirPlay 2 and iCloud Message. 10.13.4 is still muggle about stereo paired HomePods and iCloud Message. They need release 10.13.5 ASAP to get Macs into the ecosystem.
 
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Dave245 said:
Ok fair point, Apple have been know to hold October events for the Mac. If they do update the Mac at WWDC do they update the Pro or do they update them all like last year including the 12” MacBook? I’ve seen comments on different threads that say the chips for the MacBook 12” are not ready yet. I agree tho Apple need to do something.
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There are no newer officially released CPUs suitable for the 12” Macbook. There are 8th gen Coffe Lake CPUs suitable for both the 13” and 15” MBP though. Although, who knows.
 
OldSchoolMacGuy said:
Myself and many others in here have pointed out that you're incorrect. Apple just strips the support for the new hardware from the release and releases the new machine running on a supplemental updated version of the same OS version number. That's how they've always done it.
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OS X/macOS is 18 years old, they did that before AFAIK.
 
leman said:
There are no newer officially released CPUs suitable for the 12” Macbook. There are 8th gen Coffe Lake CPUs suitable for both the 13” and 15” MBP though. Although, who knows.
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That puts me out of the running then as I’m looking at getting a 12” MacBook after WWDC.
 
Secondempire said:
What are they gonna release if not 10.14? macOS 10.15? MacOS Classic "Back from the Grave" 9.3? Cancel the Mac altogether?
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Haha. I can imagine the screen at WWDC opening up to the smiley face and big MacOS 9.2.2. bootscreen, with the loading icons, then a "Welcome to Macintosh, OS 9.3" message, then Cook laughs. Ended up it's a joke and Apple OS 1.0 is unveiled... an integrated, coherent experience across all platforms as a single Apple OS with scaling interfaces for mobile and desktop platforms. The Macintosh interface is kept on all Macs, so the Macintosh isn't iOS-ified. Speaking of the Macintosh, it's actually announced as discontinued for all new Macs, but existing Macintoshes are kept in support for 5 years (OS and hardware).

Or... we'll just get 10.14. Maybe the News application, Face ID for the Mac? Haha.
 
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waigx said:
I don't understand why would apple hold off 10.13.5 for upcoming device if any. And those comments received lot of "like".

There must be other reasons rather than "keeping the secrets", otherwise whats the point of previous Betas?

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BTW iOS 11.4 released yesterday with AirPlay 2 and iCloud Message. 10.13.4 is still muggle about stereo paired HomePods and iCloud Message. They need release 10.13.5 ASAP to get Macs into the ecosystem.
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The most recent beta of 10.13.5 does not support stereo HomePods through iTunes as far as I can see. Has there been any mention of macOS support for stereo-paired HomePods?
 
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CyberVisitor said:
Doesn’t seem logical. If Apple could strip the info from beta 5 they could strip if from the final version and then release a new version for ”new” Macs. There’s a risk Apple found an important bug in beta 5 and hence held the release and went straight to 10.13.6 ... just my speculation though.
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My iSource have it they be trying to squeeze AFPS for the Fission drives into .6 ... and if anybody can do it, it’s the rock stellar crew at the corporate space ship
 
MacBird said:
The most recent beta of 10.13.5 does not support stereo HomePods through iTunes as far as I can see. Has there been any mention of macOS support for stereo-paired HomePods?
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Honestly I haven't tried it myself, just saw that from the comment section: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/05/14/apple-macos-high-sierra-10-13-5-beta-5/
It probably won't support AirPlay 2, but that's so broken. With 10.13.4 I cannot even get two Paired HomePods work together. (edit: I mean, the last iTunes cannot play music on two paired HomePods, only one works.)
 
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waigx said:
Honestly I haven't tried it myself, just saw that from the comment section: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/05/14/apple-macos-high-sierra-10-13-5-beta-5/
It probably won't support AirPlay 2, but that's so broken. With 10.13.4 I cannot even get two Paired HomePods work together. (edit: I mean, the last iTunes cannot play music on two paired HomePods, only one works.)
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This really is a bit strange, I have a laptop running the most recent beta of 10.13.5 and iTunes 12.7.5 and get only one HomePod to work. My other laptop running 10.13.4 and iTunes 12.7.5 can get both HomePods to work but only in mono despite the 11.4 firmware. With 11.4 on iOS devices, I can get the speakers to stereo-pair and the stereo separation works nicely.
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
I'm well aware of how old the OS is. I've been a Mac developer since System 6 days.
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I am not implying you don't know, what I said is that it might have been awhile since they released a new Mac and at the same time released a new OS update, that's my point.
As I recall well they did back in the (earlier)days, and yes, I have been using macs before OS X too.
 
justperry said:
I am not implying you don't know, what I said is that it might have been awhile since they released a new Mac and at the same time released a new OS update, that's my point.
As I recall well they did back in the (earlier)days, and yes, I have been using macs before OS X too.
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You're grasping hard at straws here. In the past 5+ years they haven't done what you claim one single time. Could they change that this time? It's possible. Is it even slightly likely they will? No.
 
CyberVisitor said:
... or there was some last minute problem found after the release of iOS 11.4 which caused the quick release of 11.4.1 beta and macOS 10.13.6 beta (mutual problem on both systems). Then we might never see the release of 10.13.5.
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Maybe 10.13.5 reintroduces support for Display Link and this will headline WWDC as part of Tim’s keynote.
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C DM said:
It's kind of odd to release iOS version with something like Messages in iCloud that really benefits from macOS supporting it, and not release macOS version that supports it until a week later, and then to top that off release a new beta version while the last beta is still active too.
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You say that like Apple is a computer company that makes iOS devices. But they’re really just an iOS company that happens to make Macs as a hobby.
 
I am one of those who eagerly awaits macOS 10.13.5 to be released. It was a long annoying wait for iMessage in the cloud, been worried it might not go down well, but works perfect on my iOS devices. Would like to see the same on my MacBook where I deleted a lot of old chats, but have them on my iPhone so it will be visible on my Mac again :)
 
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Its really sad that we get these new beta releases and no one has any idea why the beta was released. But it must be good because Apple did it!
 
nt5672 said:
Its really sad that we get these new beta releases and no one has any idea why the beta was released. But it must be good because Apple did it!
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Because 10.13.6 has a predefined schedule that is independent of 10.13.5. Something is in .5 we can’t know until Monday.

This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
I suspect 10.13.5 is held up not due to any secrets, but the Intel Spectre 3a/4 microcode, which will become final any day now.
 
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