Not the first time it happened. Most likely overlapping development schedules or last-minute bugs that postpone the release. Not an uncommon thing with software development.
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Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 to Developers
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Not the first time it happened. Most likely overlapping development schedules or last-minute bugs that postpone the release. Not an uncommon thing with software development.
If this is the case (probably is) we should be glad instead of Apple releasing it and then we have to wait until .6 for fixes.
.4 brought back some old issues that ‘looked’ like it was fixed, like the occasionally flicker screen to black on the Mac Pro 2013. Seemed to be gone, then showed up again on .4
Does anyone know if this Beta fixes the DisplayLink bug that has many users calling for a class action?
What is this bug? Never heard about it. Must be very serious if one considers a class action?
I'm seeing three (3) things...
1. Something was caught last-minute, my guess is it will launch tonight (Thurs.) or tomorrow (Friday); unlikely over the weekend, possibly next Monday during WWDC.
2. If 10.13.5 was perfect, 10.13.6 wouldn't be necessary.
3. Between Apple and Microsoft, one company released Windows 10 update 1803 (April 2018), the other did not. #JustSayin
Thus far, I'm only seeing two (2) small issues that started in 10.13.4, each involves wake/sleep...
a. Random flicker on the display when I wake my 2017 MacBook Pro from sleep that only disappears if I close/re-open the lid again. It happens 2-3 times a week since I updated to 10.13.4.
b. All-red display when wake from sleep for 0.5sec before login window.
Lastly, I'm unable to access the menu bar in Finder (mine is hidden) when I move the pointer up to the top to unhide it. I have to click on the desktop first before it will show. This started in 10.13.2. and hasn't been fixed yet.
1. Something was caught last-minute, my guess is it will launch tonight (Thurs.) or tomorrow (Friday); unlikely over the weekend, possibly next Monday during WWDC.
2. If 10.13.5 was perfect, 10.13.6 wouldn't be necessary.
3. Between Apple and Microsoft, one company released Windows 10 update 1803 (April 2018), the other did not. #JustSayin
Thus far, I'm only seeing two (2) small issues that started in 10.13.4, each involves wake/sleep...
a. Random flicker on the display when I wake my 2017 MacBook Pro from sleep that only disappears if I close/re-open the lid again. It happens 2-3 times a week since I updated to 10.13.4.
b. All-red display when wake from sleep for 0.5sec before login window.
Lastly, I'm unable to access the menu bar in Finder (mine is hidden) when I move the pointer up to the top to unhide it. I have to click on the desktop first before it will show. This started in 10.13.2. and hasn't been fixed yet.
All I know is that if they don’t release macOS 10.13.5 by the end of the week, I will not be a happy camper.
... okay, I’m being impatient, but seriously, I can’t really see why it would take so long for them to release it.
... okay, I’m being impatient, but seriously, I can’t really see why it would take so long for them to release it.
I wish they would push the OS release cycle to 2 years so they could stabilize and we could enjoy longer stretches of stability in daily use
Apple doesn’t ever release laptops based on what is happening in the Windows world. Mac customers don’t run over to Lenovo/Dell/HP/etc and jump to Windows just because they have earlier availability of a new Intel CPU. You don’t understand Apple or their customers if you think this plays into Apple’s release plans in the slightest.
Rather, Apple typically incorporates the latest generation of Intel processors soon after they’re available. In the past five years for MBP, this meant releases in February (2013), March/May (2015), June (2017, WWDC last year), July (2014) and October twice (2013, 2016).
This year, it seems like Intel’s shipping availability does coincide with a WWDC release at least for some models, but i think we’ll see a staggered release this year.
Why even 2 years? If they could separate new frills, features, fancy new graphics / themes from the core OS, and perfect the core OS to be rock solid and allow those that want to add the frills, features and fancy new graphics / themes, we would all benefit, surely?
Windows 10 keeps getting better. Microsoft could maybe teach Apple a thing or two about OS development and release cycles now, I think.
Why are you so sure it doesn't? There is a large group of pre-2016 MBP/MBA users who are looking to upgrade. Especially now that Apple is hit by number of PR blunders and public opinion of its newest offerings is polarised, the competition offering 30-40% (in certain scenarios) faster computers could be a deciding factor in a purchase decision. In the end, its about customer trust and customer opinion. If Apple doesn't adopt these CPUs, they will reinforce the unfortunate point of view that is becoming increasingly prevalent — of "post-Jobs Apple" who doesn't care for performance-oriented Mac user. Personally, I think its a big load of nonsense, but there are a lot of people who seem to have such an opinion.
I have a number of reasons to believe that we will see updates next week. Its not just about "need to act", its simply the nature of the timing. The CPUs were announced few months ago, but they only started getting to the market now, which quite conveniently coincides with WWDC. Also, AMD have teased mobile Vega chips in January, but have been utterly quiet on the topic since then. I thin this suggests that someone has been buying most of the new CPU stock, and there eis only one player big enough to do this. We also saw this pattern in 2016 in regards to Polaris GPUs.
Not to mention that availability for the MBP is slipping in more and more online stores. In most countries in Europe, various MBP models are out of stock (that were still in stock last week). Same for Australia. Instead of the usual "1-3 business days" the availability is tased as "4 June" or later. That is quite a coincidence. Such patterns so far only emerged immediately before hardware updates.
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Windows 10 is an OS which costs quite a bit of money and will bombard you with unsolicited ads. It will start tedious software updates when you need to shut down your machine as you are in a rush to get to the airport — and don't you ever dare to pull the switch during that if you don't want to end up with a completely borked installation (but don't worry, it will manage to render your machine unbeatable at random even if you patiently wait). Its an OS which has multiple setup dialogs/windows for the same setting, some legacy from Windows 95 days and some new implementations, which don't only have vastly different UI, but also have different options and functionality. Its also an OS that uses incredibly messy UI elements in many of the stock apps, taking away real screen estate.
I do not know what improvements you are talking about, but whatever lesson MS has to give, I sure hope that Apple chooses not to learn from it.
You definitely won't see a Mac Pro (they'll be here next year), and you won't likely see a MBP with good GPUs... ever.
I like Windows 10, I use it daily on my Xeon Dell Precision Workstation at the office (great computer from Dell), that said, Windows updates are hit or miss. I have had entire domains go buggy after updates with odd fixes that one has to dig for days to find. I have been lookin to install the LSB versions to avoid updates.
Apple tinkers too much with the OS every year creating instability in the name of Marketing pizzaz. I just want a stable OS THAT JUST WORKS, I don't need more bells and whistles when I rarely find them useful, like my touch bar... it's great for 1password and logging in, thats about it. Marketing Pizzaz
I have the macOS beta profile on my Mac and this update doesn't show up for download. Is there a different profile or process I need to download this version?
For everyone waiting on enabling iMessage in the cloud on iOS. It will save time later to do it now.
I enabled it on my phone. Plugged it in on WiFi and let it upload all my messages going back to December 2016.
When that seemed finished. (8.7GB in the cloud) I enabled it on my iPad. I was surprised to find that went back slightly earlier to September 2016. I left the iPad plugged in on WiFi and noticed it said ‘uploading’ at the bottom of the left panel. About half a day later I check (noticing my data for messages in iCloud had increased a bit to 8.8GB) and the older iPad messages are now visible on my iPhone. It works as advertised.
Obviously my Mac doesn’t have iMessages in the cloud enabled because I’m waiting for the macOS update. But it still gets new messages sent to it just like normal.
So while it will be great whenever it’s released. Don’t think you have to have Mac OS updated for messages across platforms still to work.
I enabled it on my phone. Plugged it in on WiFi and let it upload all my messages going back to December 2016.
When that seemed finished. (8.7GB in the cloud) I enabled it on my iPad. I was surprised to find that went back slightly earlier to September 2016. I left the iPad plugged in on WiFi and noticed it said ‘uploading’ at the bottom of the left panel. About half a day later I check (noticing my data for messages in iCloud had increased a bit to 8.8GB) and the older iPad messages are now visible on my iPhone. It works as advertised.
Obviously my Mac doesn’t have iMessages in the cloud enabled because I’m waiting for the macOS update. But it still gets new messages sent to it just like normal.
So while it will be great whenever it’s released. Don’t think you have to have Mac OS updated for messages across platforms still to work.
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You can always wait before upgrading. Apple typically continues to support older releases for at least two years after it's general availability. OS X Yosemite (released in October 2014) received its last security update in July 2017. OS X El Capitan (released in September 2015) last received a security update in March 2018 and might be the last update we'll see for this release. In both cases, that's around two and a half years of support.
Edit: macOS Sierra and OS X El Capitan just received another security update (2018-003) on June 1, 2018.
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... i agree with you however, realistically, its becoming less and less of an option as features become glued within the OS release ... its not like i have the option of leveraging AP2 on sierra without updating to HS
No I am not, you said it's always been like this and I said I am pretty sure it didn't, Apple released a new OS when new hardware was released so you are wrong, not me.
Even if that was 10 years ago, it counts.
So we will have, finally, the 10.13.5, maybe a beta 10.13.7, maybe a beta 10.14 mac OS "Something California"? It will be practically a new Big Bang...
How Apple Made the decision to release 10.13.6 beta before 10.13.5 gold master...
Tim: Lets put 10.13.6 into Beta testing
Employee: Uh, But sir we haven't even released 10.13.5 yet?
Tim: But 10.13.6 is Magical, Wonderful, the fastest OS we've ever made....
Employee: Sir those hyperbolic phrases only work on consumers....
Tim: Magical!
Employee: Sir.
Tim: Wonderful!
Employee: Sir!
Tim: Amazing!
Employee: (walking away) I miss Steve.
Tim: One more thing!
Employee: (yelling from the other room) That was Steve's thing. Not yours!
Tim: ..............Magical!
Employee: (Rolls Eyes) I REALLY miss Steve.
Tim: Lets put 10.13.6 into Beta testing
Employee: Uh, But sir we haven't even released 10.13.5 yet?
Tim: But 10.13.6 is Magical, Wonderful, the fastest OS we've ever made....
Employee: Sir those hyperbolic phrases only work on consumers....
Tim: Magical!
Employee: Sir.
Tim: Wonderful!
Employee: Sir!
Tim: Amazing!
Employee: (walking away) I miss Steve.
Tim: One more thing!
Employee: (yelling from the other room) That was Steve's thing. Not yours!
Tim: ..............Magical!
Employee: (Rolls Eyes) I REALLY miss Steve.
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