Apple Seeds First Beta of macOS Mojave to Developers

[killmoms]

Not all of us came out on the right side of the criminal Apple support lottery.

I don’t think there’s anything “lottery”-like about hardware about to go into obsolete status no longer being supported by the latest OS releases, especially considering those machines now stuck at High Sierra will continue to get security updates for at least another two years. By the time they no longer receive any updates from Apple at all they’ll be pushing 10 years old—well beyond when they should’ve been replaced to begin with.

 

[mithion]

Overall a pretty quiet release. But I'm 100% ok with that as long as there was a focus on fixing bugs. I would like to see more focus on enterprise features. As more people want macs in the workplace, it seems the tools to manage them have not kept up.

 

[killmoms]

Nope no problems here.

Itunes is a bit messed up in dark mode tho. Black text on grey background. I'd have assumed they would have sorted that out before beta release.

It’s developer preview 1. Purely cosmetic UI issues (especially in software like iTunes which is far less modern than other Apple apps due to its cross-platform nature) don’t get resolved until much later in the release cycle—especially if there will be a new version of iTunes out before macOS Mojave ships to support new iOS hardware, as has been the pattern in past years.

 

[runeapple]

Any word on if you can make a full-page screenshot of a website? That'd be worth the entire segment for me :S
*Their screenshot options did seem much better, but I saw no 'full page' option in the keynote...)

Roccat Browser has a full page screenshot option and it works really well, and it's better than
Safari in most ways as well IMO.
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The only question that matters to me is, is if is true what they said about performance or stability, or are they going to deliver more of the same.

EDIT: Actually 2 questions, is APFS available on fusion drives as they announced?

I really hope so, all Apple's platforms have become sloppy I just hope they can bring it back - I miss the good old Snow Leopard days. Lion was where it all started going wrong. iOS started to get sloppy later iOS7 onwards have been crappy.

 

[killmoms]

The 1Password Safari extension doesn't work (incompatible) so it's gone from the Safari toolbar (1Password Mini). However 1Password 6.8.8 (and I just tried 7.0.4) still works fine. If you go to Safari Extensions now, you end up in the new Mac App Store, and 1Password isn't there as an extension (but 1Password 7 is there as an app).

Trying to re-open the extension (1Password-4.7.1.safariextz) fails.

I have the 1Password Safari extension loading just fine in Safari in Mojave on beta 1. It’s 4.7.1, by AgileBits, from the Safari Extension Gallery. It was already installed in High Sierra, which I upgraded from. My Safari Extension Gallery-installed “AdBlock” and “Ghostery” extensions, however, are disabled.

 

[chrisduketv]

I have the 1Password Safari extension loading just fine in Safari in Mojave on beta 1. It’s 4.7.1, by AgileBits, from the Safari Extension Gallery. It was already installed in High Sierra, which I upgraded from. My Safari Extension Gallery-installed “AdBlock” and “Ghostery” extensions, however, are disabled.

I stand corrected! It was removed from the tool bar... I had to right-click it to customize and add it back.

 

[Guy Clark]

I don’t think there’s anything “lottery”-like about hardware about to go into obsolete status no longer being supported by the latest OS releases, especially considering those machines now stuck at High Sierra will continue to get security updates for at least another two years. By the time they no longer receive any updates from Apple at all they’ll be pushing 10 years old—well beyond when they should’ve been replaced to begin with.

If it is running flawlessly then why replace it no matter what the age it is.
Paying a small fortune for a Mac seven years ago to find it has been deemed obsolete by Apple is not an easy pill to swallow for some. My mid 2011 21.5" iMac is out of the race.
Currently installing Mojave on my late 2015 21.5" 4k iMac to an external partition out of interest but in reality I feel I shall be sticking with Sierra and High Sierra for a good while yet.

 

[jeh72]

Has anyone tried to run any 32bit applications yet? Are they blocked entirely?

 

[chrisduketv]

After running dark mode for a few hours, I turned it off. It doesn't translate well to macOS for me. Just my opinion. However, on my iPhone X I love dark mode. Every app that has a dark mode theme has it enabled for me. Even my lock screen is just black. For my 27" iMac screen, though, it was bugging my eyes out having it turned on... mainly Safari's tabs.

 

[Guy Clark]

Nope no problems here.

Itunes is a bit messed up in dark mode tho. Black text on grey background. I'd have assumed they would have sorted that out before beta release.

This is the DP 1 which means there will without doubt be a multitude of bugs it is only to be expected.

 

[Candlelight]

Has anyone tried to run any 32bit applications yet? Are they blocked entirely?

Apparently they still work but with a warning that comes up when you launch them.

 

[Guy Clark]

Having a quick play around with the DP 1 on an external drive on my late 2015 21.5" 4k iMac and it seems remarkably stable and fluid seeing as it is so early in the development process.
Installation was seamless without any hitches. Never have I known a DP 1 to be so stable. Of course these are early days but could macOS Mojave be the release we have been waiting so long for?
Sierra almost made it to the top of the pile but then again I am an established Mac OS X user so I am naturally going to be critical.

 

[Cloverleaf]

Hey

Can somone please confirm if it's still possible to change the Finder background color (or even choosing a picture) in Dark Mode and use it as default for all folder? Like white or a light grey?

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/132344/change-background-color-of-a-folder-in-finder

I would really appreciate an answer. Thanks!

 

[Guy Clark]

Steam does work but is buggy not rendering correctly when launching. Currently downloading F1 2016 for Mac and we will see how that goes.

Bluray playback is faultless using VLC 3.0.3
[doublepost=1528161862][/doublepost]I have found opened applications to be kept in the Dock once closed. Most likely a bug.

 

[jscooper22]

I actually think the stacks feature will help packrats like me. Other than that, just make it do what it says it's gonna do, but without issues. I'll take a boring OS that's stable and consistent over eye candy and wacky animations any day.

 

[chrisduketv]

Hey

Can somone please confirm if it's still possible to change the Finder background color (or even choosing a picture) in Dark Mode and use it as default for all folder? Like white or a light grey?

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/132344/change-background-color-of-a-folder-in-finder

I would really appreciate an answer. Thanks!

No such option for desktop, or a finder folder.

 

[Cloverleaf]

No such option for desktop, or a finder folder.

That is a great pity Thank you for taking the time to test it.

 

[flaw600]

Yes, it was announced last year also.. my question is if it will be is actually available on Mojave beta.

Actually, APFS for flash-only storage was announced to be available at launch with Fusion Drive and HDD support to be added "in a future update." They never claimed that it'd be available on High Sierra specifically, however.

 

[Drfter]

"Apps built using OpenGL and OpenCL will continue to run in macOS 10.14, but these legacy technologies are deprecated in macOS 10.14. Games and graphics-intensive apps that use OpenGL should now adopt Metal."

I don't know if I should stay on OSX anymore. So sick of this. Spent their time working on dark mode but can't be bothered to support OpenGL and OpenCL. 300 Billion dollars sitting off shore and they can't pay someone to work on this. Come on apple. Can't even be bothered to update their computers or correct the pricing. Just so tired of this.

 

[killmoms]

If it is running flawlessly then why replace it no matter what the age it is.
Paying a small fortune for a Mac seven years ago to find it has been deemed obsolete by Apple is not an easy pill to swallow for some. My mid 2011 21.5" iMac is out of the race.
Currently installing Mojave on my late 2015 21.5" 4k iMac to an external partition out of interest but in reality I feel I shall be sticking with Sierra and High Sierra for a good while yet.

No one is saying you have to replace it, but expecting 100% support on brand new software in excess of seven years seems silly to me—especially since Apple’s seven year policy for phasing out hardware support has been in place for ages. If it’s running flawlessly, just keep using it with High Sierra. Like I said, it’ll be nearly 10 years old by the time High Sierra stops getting security updates (and when, realistically, software will start to require OS versions newer than that).

Seems you’re already content to run older OSes on even newer hardware longer than a year, so I feel like you’ve already cracked this code and are just complaining to complain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Has anyone tried to run any 32bit applications yet? Are they blocked entirely?

No, as stated in the keynote 32-bit apps will continue to work in Mojave; they will be deprecated and no longer work in 10.15, which will come out (presumably) in 2019.

 

[seclusion]

An odd glitch, system preferences sees and can use my a PreSonus mixing board. iTunes plays back audio through it. Logic Pro x sees my sound card, can change settings etc, but no sound. No meters move in Logic with the PreSonus. I changed to internal sound and all is well.
Otherwise all is good.
Had a back up so no worries

 

[PetroK]

Guys, is insert photo from iPhone enabled on your side? In Notes I see this features are disabled.

 

[swifty168]

Launch in Fall would mean no new Macs til Fall or a bit after that?

 

[cmaier]

I actually think the stacks feature will help packrats like me. Other than that, just make it do what it says it's gonna do, but without issues. I'll take a boring OS that's stable and consistent over eye candy and wacky animations any day.

Stacks might be nice if they made it work within folders other than the desktop. But I keep my desktop clean. Also depends on how flexible and smar the organization is. Grouping by file type doesn’t seem all that helpful. Grouping by project would be nicer.
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Launch in Fall would mean no new Macs til Fall or a bit after that?

Not necessarily. In the past they’ve released macs just before releasing a new OS.

 

[G5-PowerLifter]

Considering that I can run Windows 10 on a Pentium 4 just fine, it's rediculous that a hypertheaded quad core system with 24GB of RAM can't run macOS Moharvey just because the graphics card sucks a bit (well the HD 5750 wasn't even that great back then imo). Even if I expected it, it's crap non the less. Almost every time after a new macOS release, people are whining that their machines aren't supported anymore and now it's my turn, yeah feels really unecessary.

However thanks do people like dosdude1, our obsolete machines were at least able to run high sierra. I like my 2008 MacBook Pro with the PowerBook design and for as long as it is fast enough for every day stuff I don't want (can't afford) to get a new Laptop. Even if I could, I would never buy any of these new MacBooks they are just horrendous in every way.