Apple Seeds First Betas of iOS 13.3.1 and iPadOS 13.3.1 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

[Dave-Z]

But even then what’s the point, because iOS 15 will just break it. This is why I don’t get the yearly new OS cycles. iOS 12 was basically to fix iOS 11, but was replaced after a year with the re-broken iOS 13.

I’d be happy with iOS 12 having been the foundation for the next few OSs.

Indeed. I like the way Debian Linux does it. Ship when ready. Even Microsoft stopped with these grandstand Windows releases and has just two releases a year (and those are more like service packs), but even now they've dropped that to one this year because too many changes too quickly isn't good.

Operating systems are mature enough. We don't need huge changes every 12 months. Just have a single iOS/iPadOS/macOS platform that is continually updated. Have different release channels (like bleeding edge, beta, public release) to let developers and consumers who want new stuff sooner (albeit with some bugs) have it. The rest of the time, just slowly roll out new features here and there over time. No fixed schedules or timeline pressures. Ship a feature when it's ready. Don't make a list of 20 features and ship on Sept. 10 regardless.

 

[calstanford]

I cannot wait to get this on my devices!!

I can. It‘s a beta of a bug fix release.

 

[FishyFish]

I can. It‘s a beta of a bug fix release.

It has been phenomenal so far. Loving the Mail updates!

 

[thewhitehart]

I'm going to say it is fixed... I'm now 20 emails in without so much as a stutter. Tried half on iPad Pro and the rest on iPhone 11 Pro
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Consider this an early Christmas gift... Mail is working fine for me 👍👍👍

If this holds true, this is the most promising post on MacRumors in a long time!

 

[pcd213]

I trust you all but can we get a real confirmation that all of the mail issues are fixed?

 

[racingbull]

Guys, how‘s your experience with Bluetooth on iPhone 11 (pro)?
I keep on getting a somewhat flaky connection with AirPods and other stuff...

or is it just my perception? How could I rule out a hardware issue?

thx!

 

[Aditya rathee]

Can somebody shed some light on changelog plz ?

 

[iGeneo]

Why can’t he sync with iTunes? Not everyone has embraced Apple’s services. I sync my lossless music library, TV shows and movies using iTunes. Apple Music can pound sand.

But he is using it to sync photos?

 

[flexiboy1912]

Also a dumb question: if betas for previous IOS versions are still seeded by Apple, can I downgrade my iPhone X by using a beta for 12.4.X?

Unfortunately no , only 13 is available now

 

[il_teo77]

I am a Mac user since 2006 (white MacBook core 2 duo, the first 64 bit intel mac), running OS X Tiger (10.4). I have NEVER EVER seen an OS release as full of updates and bugs as this one. I used to joke on those having Windows for having too many updates or Android having none. Now I am the JOKE. People who recently switched from Android are telling me "another one??" "again??" every time (almost bi-weekly). Apple, GET YOUR ACT together. An OS released on september 24th (almost precisely 3 months ago) and which has undergone 9 (with this one 10) releases, on a set of devices Apple has full control of, is unacceptable. Beyond ridiculous.

iOS 12 has seen 15 releases in more than a year. We are at 10 in 3 months. By the time we reach a full year it will be 20??

 

[Braderunner]

I trust you all but can we get a real confirmation that all of the mail issues are fixed?

Like what exactly are you looking for?

 

[AdamNC]

I am a Mac user since 2006 (white MacBook core 2 duo, the first 64 bit intel mac), running OS X Tiger (10.4). I have NEVER EVER seen an OS release as full of updates and bugs as this one. I used to joke on those having Windows for having too many updates or Android having none. Now I am the JOKE. People who recently switched from Android are telling me "another one??" "again??" every time (almost bi-weekly). Apple, GET YOUR ACT together. An OS released on september 24th (almost precisely 3 months ago) and which has undergone 9 (with this one 10) releases, on a set of devices Apple has full control of, is unacceptable. Beyond ridiculous.

iOS 12 has seen 15 releases in more than a year. We are at 10 in 3 months. By the time we reach a full year it will be 20??

Even Apple loyalists feel this way. My father saw this coming tho back before he died in 2013. He had been selling Apple and repairing them since 1984. He said then they were to focused on profit and not on quality. He had a Mac from 1986 that still ran perfect and a IIe that still ran. He kept them on in his office just for fun. And everything functioned. Apple needs to go back to its roots and hate to say this but think different.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

I am a Mac user since 2006 (white MacBook core 2 duo, the first 64 bit intel mac), running OS X Tiger (10.4). I have NEVER EVER seen an OS release as full of updates and bugs as this one. I used to joke on those having Windows for having too many updates or Android having none. Now I am the JOKE. People who recently switched from Android are telling me "another one??" "again??" every time (almost bi-weekly). Apple, GET YOUR ACT together. An OS released on september 24th (almost precisely 3 months ago) and which has undergone 9 (with this one 10) releases, on a set of devices Apple has full control of, is unacceptable. Beyond ridiculous.

iOS 12 has seen 15 releases in more than a year. We are at 10 in 3 months. By the time we reach a full year it will be 20??

Wait, you’re running a computer on OS X version 10.4.11 (the most-patched version of OS X to date) and talking about the number of bug fixes being too many?

 

[pcd213]

Like what exactly are you looking for?

The issue where Mail freezes when you tap on a new mail notification

 

[Braderunner]

The issue where Mail freezes when you tap on a new mail notification

What sort of "real confirmation"?

 

[pcd213]

What sort of "real confirmation"?

I’m looking for someone who is running the 13.3.1 beta on their iPhone to tell me if this specific bug has been fixed.

 

[Braderunner]

I’m looking for someone who is running the 13.3.1 beta on their iPhone to tell me if this specific bug has been fixed.

iKnow. But, some have said that it is. You said that you believe them. But, want "real confirmation".

 

[pcd213]

iKnow. But, some have said that it is. You said that you believe them. But, want "real confirmation".

 

[pcd213]

iKnow. But, some have said that it is. You said that you believe them. But, want "real confirmation".

 

[posguy99]

But he is using it to sync photos?

Sure. Why not? Given Apple's incompetence with cloud services, you really want to trust anything to iCloud Photo Library?

Most likely the OP wants some small set of photos on his device, and whatever else there are are stored elsewhere.

 

[Dave-Z]

I used to joke on those having Windows for having too many updates or Android having none. Now I am the JOKE.

No kidding. I switched to Windows (a 2-in-1 laptop) in November 2018 when my iPad Pro stopped working. It has been largely flawless with Windows. (Heck, I don't even notice the updates most of the time, they just happen invisibly when I'm not using the device.)

 

[ghostface147]

I’m looking for someone who is running the 13.3.1 beta on their iPhone to tell me if this specific bug has been fixed.

I tried it briefly on our work phone and it seems ok.
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[Unregistered 4U]

iOS 12 has seen 15 releases in more than a year. We are at 10 in 3 months. By the time we reach a full year it will be 20??

Do a search for ”Agile Development Practices”. Everyone making money in IT is using it or some version of it. It’s not even a new thing... you likely are aware of Lean principles? It’s just Lean applied to software development.
EVERY piece of software still in active development sees a release at the end of every sprint, that’s every two weeks. So, that’s 25 releases a year. Many of those make it to beta testers, few make it to a public release.

He had a Mac from 1986 that still ran perfect and a IIe that still ran.

That’s expected. I have an old MacBook that can no longer run the latest OS... it just runs. Sure, there’s a lot of things that it can’t do and there are security holes in the system, but just saying that ANY system you’re not making changes to will run just as well as the last software that was released for it.
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Heck, I don't even notice the updates most of the time, they just happen invisibly when I'm not using the device.)

You can set up iOS to do the same. If it’s plugged in with a Wifi connection, it’ll automatically update. I prefer to have that turned off for beta releases, though.
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For those who jumped on (or stayed on) the beta train for this one, with holidays coming up...beta is a brave move!

Not really brave, I mean everyone’s installing this on backup devices, right? Like, not the phone or iPad you’ll be depending on over the holidays as your primary go-to device? 😋

 

[imnotthewalrus]

Wait, you’re running a computer on OS X version 10.4.11 (the most-patched version of OS X to date) and talking about the number of bug fixes being too many?

10.4 (Tiger) also was the longest-running "newest" OS at 2-1/2 years, and in the middle of that was the switch to Intel.
The 11 "patches" over 30 months were feature and application updates to a great degree. Like the OP, my first Mac was also a 2006 and Tiger was a solid operating system.

 

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