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I literally switched back to Windows 10 because the size and frequency of these OSX updates indicate to me that something is seriously wrong and they are trying very hard to fix it. Meanwhile my Windows 10 updates are very small, and infrequent.

Yeah, Steve would never have allowed these 10.x.x updates.
 
I literally switched back to Windows 10 because the size and frequency of these OSX updates indicate to me that something is seriously wrong and they are trying very hard to fix it. Meanwhile my Windows 10 updates are very small, and infrequent.
And they come by the hundreds. And require multiple restarts, and don't always install correctly, and forgets driver updates, and . . .
and no I got doubled the amount of Windows 10 Technical previews as with OS X Betas
 
Bluetooth is getting worse and worse... my keyboard and audio keeps disconnecting. What's worse is when my audio comes back, it just blasts itself... nearly gave me a heart attack.
 
Any idea if they might consider to introduce the "Night Swift" from iOS 9.3 BETA into Mac OS X as well? I know we have f.lux already, and I'm using it for all it's worth but I love to have things like this within the operating system itself.

Totally agree. If nothing else, I like things to be consistent between OS's. It confuses my brain when they're not. :confused:
 
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fix mail, fix mail, fix your stinking mail application Apple.

kthanx

I couldn't have said it better. mail Migration is a corruption disaster and loses half of your email accounts and their server settings, but it's only gotten worse. Every update seems to introduce another problem. The latest one I'm getting is dragging/dropping pictures from mail to a new mail to send causes a complete kernel panic forcing a machine shutdown. The MAIL program is still a complete disaster.

Other problems Apple has not fixed are loss of Apple ID recognition and Bluetooth crashes.

To add insult to injury Apple has discontinued support for some older Macs that are supposedly supported machines under El Capitan. That is just blatantly dishonest if not illegal. How can you release a new operating system certified for a machine and than discontinue the support after distributing it and removing any ability to downgrade? BOO Apple!

If someone asked for my honest advice, I'd say unless there is some incredibly needed feature you see in Yosemite or El Capitan that you feel you cannot live without, you'll have a faster, more stable Mac with Mavericks which at least doesn't corrupt your email or crash your Bluetooth and iPhone repeatedly.
 
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I literally switched back to Windows 10 because the size and frequency of these OSX updates indicate to me that something is seriously wrong and they are trying very hard to fix it. Meanwhile my Windows 10 updates are very small, and infrequent.

Really? I use win 10 about every 2-3 days and there is always at least one update. Sometimes 2 to 3.
 
Using Enterprise LTSB version, so I don't get useless updates.

Ahh makes sense. So all updates come sans any new features I assume. most of the updates I get are security updates no doubt fixing holes in all the "wonderful" new features I never use.
 
Normally you can't repair a disk which is in use, now I was able to run first aid on the boot disk, so "live".
You still can't. You could however run a verify on the volume while it was booted.

The difference is, the "verify" and "repair" functions got merged into one button in the new version.

If disk utility finds a problem while doing the live scan, it will tell you to reboot to recovery to fix it, same as before.
 
Bluetooth is getting worse and worse... my keyboard and audio keeps disconnecting. What's worse is when my audio comes back, it just blasts itself... nearly gave me a heart attack.
The loud audio is a new User Attention system they're developing. I see it has some bugs.
 
DISK UTILITY

APPLE, PLEASE

Wow, thanks for this post. I had no idea how Apple butchered Disk Utilty and your post prompted me to look into it and my God this is some kinda joke! How can they release this to production with no software RAID support! Is this prettified monstrosity the version you're presented with when booting into the repair mode after upgrading to El Capitan as well!? This is simply outrageous! Silently dropping software RAID support! Updating for ease of use is one thing but removing features too at the same time is criminal. I realize this is still in the command line and there are hacks to restore thr old Disk Utilty from Time Machine Backup but that's totally an unacceptable work around. If this is supposed to return (and it sure as heck should) and Disk Utilty wasn't finished why are they pushing a half assed update with those features removed on such a crucial piece of system software!

Here are a bunch of features removed and further on the lack of Software RAID support and what your software defined disks will look like:

http://www.macworld.com/article/298...tool-for-storage-devices-gets-a-facelift.html

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2015/20151008_0956-OSX_ElCapitan-DiskUtility.html

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2015/20151008_1222-SoftRAID-vs-DiskUtility.html

Thanks again for the heads up. I was going to wait for the next release to upgrade hopefully fixing issues but now I will hold off until full support and completion of features are returned. You probably saved me a LOT of hair pulling.

Apple get your crap together man what's wrong with your software devs this is a damn joke!
 
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Can anyone let me know if this fixes the address bar in safari? I type in things to search currently and it takes forever before it begins to search.
Oh man this. How did this get past bug testing.

I also miss when you could open links from searching the history and your history tab didn't reset and kill your search position.
 
APPLE PLEASE FIX THE MAC PRO EXTERNAL MONITOR NOT WAKING ISSUE.
Yes, this. ALL DAY LONG! I'm wearing out my ports plugging in the damn thunderbolt cable into different ports until it wakes up. Most of the time that works, sometimes I have to do a hard reboot ffs.
 
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I was thinking the same thing. Strange to see two betas out at the same time.

Maybe Product releases soon, 10.11.4 might be for a future product release and they need to test it out. But strange to do it in public. But that's the only reason I can see to test both 10.11.3 and 10.11.4 at the same time.
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3 accounts, (1 imap, 1 exchange, 1 iCloud)

Mail, appears---: then magically disappears. Again, and again.
Attachements, corrupted- Often.
on and on and on....
Open Postbox, no problems exhibited. same on airmail.

Mail is not supposed to be troubleshooted to actually work. Believe me, for 2 years, I have all but given up... and yes I have started from scratch on 2 occasions. many people will agree that mail sucks, while others will say; no problems here.


Exchange, IMAP (Gmail) and iCloud here as well, never had a single issue with emails disappearing or attachments being corrupted on any of my El Capitan machines :)
 
Yes, this. ALL DAY LONG! I'm wearing out my ports plugging in the damn thunderbolt cable into different ports until it wakes up. Most of the time that works, sometimes I have to do a hard reboot ffs.

I had this same problem with the LG 34" Ultra Wide monitor and a MB Pro Retina (early 2013 and mid 2015), connected an external keyboard to the monitor and the same issue with the bluetooth external keyboard.

With connecting the keyboard directly to the computer, the external monitor wakes up correctly without dyiskjockeying the monitor cable to different ports.

It's working great since 10.11.1
 
For those of you complaining about the update frequency and multiple versions, you clearly have no insight on software development.

Apple is most likely making use of an Agile approach, which focuses on getting the base product out and developing on it as time goes on. It's a way to mitigate feature bloats and to best used in an environment with fast turnarounds. It's pretty much industry standard now.

We didn't see this years ago as internet connections were 100x slower. Software is no longer cut off from the world. It's the same reason you get large day 0 updates in video games.

It's not uncommon for multiple betas to be out at the same time with an software provider. The betas focus on different area and stem from different feature branches in their version control.
 
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I wish they would fix the computer name already in use bug.

I cant give feedback to Apple as the feedback assistant is out of date as well :(
 
I wish they would fix the computer name already in use bug.

I cant give feedback to Apple as the feedback assistant is out of date as well :(

What is this "computer name is already in use bug" and how would one replicate it?
 
Downloading now... not so fast currently, servers seem to be clogged...
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Mail works fine. I think you're long overdue for a clean install.

I did. Didn't help.
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When there's two version numbers in the works same time, it's about new features. What new is hidden under .4 version? Metal v2?

Copper.
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Using Enterprise LTSB version, so I don't get useless updates.

Using Professional Pro XP version, so get lots of useful updates.
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Bluetooth is getting worse and worse... my keyboard and audio keeps disconnecting. What's worse is when my audio comes back, it just blasts itself... nearly gave me a heart attack.

That's nothing! Wait until your keyboard comes back!
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Apple is up to something unusual with all these betas coming close together...

Yeah... betas getting close to each other... it's called incest.
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Snow Leopard and Mavericks have been the best releases. Hopefully Apple can do it again with El Capitan.

I asked. Tim just confirmed that on the next keynote he'll announce the next OS X as "the third best OS Apple has ever done! Coming after Snow Leopard and Mavericks!"
 
Hopefully this will bring some power use improvements. My 2013 MacBook Air has been crippled since El Capitan, 4 hours at best (usually 2) and yes I run a very slim setup, safari, etc..
 
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