Just finished installing on my M1 Mini and weather is working for me.
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Apple Seeds First Public Beta of macOS 13 Ventura
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Just finished installing on my M1 Mini and weather is working for me.
I'm completely unsurprised they did this & am more surprised they didn't make this change sooner. Craig explained in an interview with John Gruber whey they did it.
Given Craig's thinking, will Apple replace Finder next year for the Files app? 🤔
Weird. I gave it permissions, and I went into privacy settings and checked them as well. The widget works fine, just not the app.
Ok all that is the new weather app (based on dark sky) not able to access server via network. Is Safari able to access websites that you commonly access? Is this an intel or AS Mac?
Been working fine, but observed that initially before it locates server.
You still get used to these changes IMHO. I expect to see slight tweaks to the systems preferences as the beta cycle progresses.
I ran Beta 1 and it was pretty rough, may jump back in soon but on my Mac mini which I use sparingly. I have had no real issues with iOS and iPadOS but Ventura got off to a tough start at least for me.
The only issue with beta 1 I noticed immediately was I had one incident of open a few apps and closing them and then Safari 16.0 had a kernel crash when playing a Netflix stream with a couple of other tabs opening not repeatable. With beta 2 and beta 3 there were some unusual issues with Safari 16, slowing down updating redraws of tabs or being very slow to quit. Then we have this updated beta 3, now Safari 16 seems to be working normally over the last 3 hours. So I know on this M1 24" iMac there was no change of Safari version, Darwin kernel, and also the system FW, but it seems like it was network stack issue because everything is much more fluid with Safari now. So for as much as I was unhappy with 22A5295h this 1 week later 22A5295i has me more satisfied.
i recently switched back from Beta 3 dev to Monterey, because video's played in Iina and other players were crashing (only HDR vid's) and my Apple Wireless KB was asking for a pincode (tried all default codes, none were working). Also in full screen, the menubar stayed visible.
Going to try public beta on my M1 Max, see if those bugs are solved
Going to try public beta on my M1 Max, see if those bugs are solved
Have they fixed the horrible system settings design or improved some of the hiding of UI elements?
Why’d they make it so much more complicated? Can you restore your computer back from Time Machine normally still?
Why’d they make it so much more complicated? Can you restore your computer back from Time Machine normally still?
No, it can access the server just fine if I manually enter a location.
Whether or not Safari can access websites I normally access... I am typing this on a website. In addition, that is something I would have mentioned if I was unable to access the internet at all, don't you agree?
Ok, that sounds right, it's been awhile since I first used this weather app from June 6th. I do like this port of Dark Sky on the Mac.
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Because the OS is becoming more complicated, and they are trying to make the system preferences easier to navigate than a series of icons that represent different sections of system preferences.
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You will get used to it. I actually prefer the new look, its much more organised and once you use it for a while you know where everything is.
Files is still missing features and is not as complete as Finder. Apple could rewite Finder to make to faster tho.
That's what I did! But my Mac isn't "mission critical." As long as it doesn't brick it, I'm good. I really just want to give Apple feedback on bugs or issues I come across. I know there are millions doing the same but I still like being part of the process.
Mine ended up being 500 MB and finished installing in about 10 mins. Not bad.
Yeah. Same here. I have a 2018 MBA. I think what is downloaded may depend on what type of machine you have. Some may have to download more stuff.
However I do still like to get the full installer regardless so I can have the bootable usb. But delta updates are quicker.
I have now also tested the bootable usb for this beta and it works well.
I probably spent more time making and testing the bootable usb than updating the machine!
Yes my larger download was for AS based Macs using dev beta 3 versus Intel based Macs.
So I was able to download the public beta on my M1 MacBook Air with 8 GBs of memory and it's running like an absolute champ! 12+ GB Download. No issues at all so far and overall it feels Snappier™
I absolutely love Stage Manager! It really feels like a much less stressful work environment now that I do not have all these open windows open everywhere!
I absolutely love Stage Manager! It really feels like a much less stressful work environment now that I do not have all these open windows open everywhere!
Nice to know.tks for infoBy the way, for folks who want to try out the beta mostly risk free (things can still go wrong with firmware but that's rare), APFS makes it really easy to create a second volume and install the beta there. You can even have Migration Assistant copy your home folder and settings over from the primary Monterey installation.
The two systems are separate with distinct home folders and you can choose which one to boot into on startup. This is something I wish iOS could do. Been playing with Ventura now for the past couple weeks and I can easily boot back into my main install if something is broken. It's been surprisingly good though!
Apple even sanctions it with a support article:
Use more than one version of macOS on Mac - Apple Support
If you install a compatible macOS on an additional internal or external storage volume, your Mac can start up from either volume.support.apple.com
There was a time when Apple was pushing full screen mode as a solution to a cluttered desktop, but didn't seem to realize that full screen mode sucks on really large displays and that people are often working with one or two apps at once and don't want to have to switch back and forth all the time.So I was able to download the public beta on my M1 MacBook Air with 8 GBs of memory and it's running like an absolute champ! 12+ GB Download. No issues at all so far and overall it feels Snappier™
I absolutely love Stage Manager! It really feels like a much less stressful work environment now that I do not have all these open windows open everywhere!
Stage manager seems to be them finally acknowledging how people work on Macs. Hell, the renewed attention Apple is paying to the Mac is a breath of fresh air. I always found iPads to be restrictive.