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i like Apples way of doing things...

Introduce features for something that is not even out yet..

Who the hell can use these features ? Its not like developers have early access to the Apple watch physically so they can test their stuff. That, i could understand.



It could be worse... you could be an Android user.

I'll bet any money certain developers that will have apps available day one have access to the hardware. I'm taking Twitter, Facebook etc. with a big NDA not to disclose anything Apple hasn't announced yet.
 
I'll bet any money certain developers that will have apps available day one have access to the hardware. I'm taking Twitter, Facebook etc. with a big NDA not to disclose anything Apple hasn't announced yet.

I'd actually bet that some developers who need access to the Apple Watch hardware are required to physically be at Apple headquarters. How about that new building Apple made? Did we find out what it was for? Possibly a development building where developers from various companies are making watch apps?
 
Known Issues with beta 4 from Release notes:
1) 3rd party calendar sync does not work in this beta.

2) After rotating the document picker to landscape, the status bar is hidden.

3) Upon bringing up the document picker in landscape, the containing view may be shifted beneath the navigation bar.

4) Mail handoff and AirDrop may stop working after changing your iCloud password at appleid.apple.com.

5) Music playback from iTunes in the Cloud does not work in this beta.


Issues with WatchKit:

1) Inserting, deleting, or updating rows of a WKInterfaceTable may cause the table to temporarily size incorrectly. Scrolling your interface controller should restore the table to the proper size.

2) SecRequestSharedWebCredential API calls will always give a -909 Autofill disabled error.

3) WKInterfaceSwitch does not reflect the color you set using setColor:.
 
I'd actually bet that some developers who need access to the Apple Watch hardware are required to physically be at Apple headquarters. How about that new building Apple made? Did we find out what it was for? Possibly a development building where developers from various companies are making watch apps?

Thing is the public has already seen the hardware and there are Apple employees wearing the device in the wild.
 
All you beta testers keep one thing in mind here: no version of iOS 8 will be as smooth and fluid as iOS 7.1.2 is on the iPhone 5s.

And no phone with iOS 7.1.2 has notification center widgets and Continuity/Handoff, so that's useless to me. Though I hope iOS 9 takes steps towards fixing issues, iOS 8 has been great for me. Not everyone thinks that iOS 7 is some beacon of stability and fluidity.
 
This is something that needs to be added in iOS 9 - there's a ridiculous amount of built in apps now, its akin to bloatware.

I don't know of any low power Bluetooth devices that connect any other way than with their own app, and I'm sure it's the same on Android. The nature of BLE makes it that way.
 
Known Issues with beta 4 from Release notes:
1) 3rd party calendar sync does not work in this beta.

2) After rotating the document picker to landscape, the status bar is hidden.

3) Upon bringing up the document picker in landscape, the containing view may be shifted beneath the navigation bar.

4) Mail handoff and AirDrop may stop working after changing your iCloud password at appleid.apple.com.

5) Music playback from iTunes in the Cloud does not work in this beta.


Issues with WatchKit:

1) Inserting, deleting, or updating rows of a WKInterfaceTable may cause the table to temporarily size incorrectly. Scrolling your interface controller should restore the table to the proper size.

2) SecRequestSharedWebCredential API calls will always give a -909 Autofill disabled error.

3) WKInterfaceSwitch does not reflect the color you set using setColor:.

That iTunes Match bug *sucks*. Songs play for a few seconds then stop and the list of songs goes corrupt.
 
This is something that needs to be added in iOS 9 - there's a ridiculous amount of built in apps now, its akin to bloatware.
HAHAHA don't even compare this to bloatware. Get a Verizon Galaxy S4 and you will truly see bloatware. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but it seems like my Galaxy S4 came with 3-4 pages of pre installed apps. With jelly bean I don't believe you could do anything to get rid of them, while with kitkat you could "disable" them. All it does is hide them. They still take up room on the phone and such. Apps like Amazon, Trip Adviser, Kindle, eBay, then there were a good 5 pointless Verizon apps, and the list goes on and on. It was terrible.

Well, mine is. iOS 8.2 beta 4 is ridiculusly smooth on my 5s. Take a look at my post history ... I can go on about UI smoothness and fluidity a fair bit.

The gulf between iPhone and iPad builds of iOS 8 is what gets me, the iPhone versions always feel more 'complete'.
Yeah, iPad is a nightmare on iOS 8. Horrendous laggy mess on the one year old hardware in the iPad Air and iPad mini 2. Really sad. Also, there are huge and inefficient wastes of space involved. They need to add more features that really differentiate between iPhone and iPad.
Same here. Agree about the iPads. They always manage to get it wrong with those devices.

Again, this. It's like they don't care about iPad, it's extremely frustrating. The UI lag over there is really really sad to see.
 
UGH

The whole extra-apps thing is a bigger iPhone problem than just the watch, but yeah, lets hope it only appears after you've synced a watch.

That would be just about impossible as BLE devices do not "pair" with smartphones, they are accessed through the apps only. So you'd have a chicken before the egg problem with that solution.
 
That would be just about impossible as BLE devices do not "pair" with smartphones, they are accessed through the apps only. So you'd have a chicken before the egg problem with that solution.

I can use my Mac's keyboard with my phone and there's no "Keyboard App."

So it's certainly possible tech-wise. It's just that they apparently have controls they don't want to hide away in the settings.
 
My Air 1 wouldn't do an iCloud back up on beta 3, either automatically or manually. And the gestures were still buggy; I had to turn gestures off and on again to get them working. Downloading on my 6 Plus now.

No such luck. My Air still won't backup to iCloud.
 
more crap i cant delete? i dont get why things like Podcasts, iBooks etc have to be preinstalled. it would be so much easier to just have them on the welcome screen when you open the App Store for the first time, just like iWork Apps. besides they could be updated whenever instead of waiting on an iOS update

The fact Apple isn't shipping more of their apps through the App Store baffles me.
 
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