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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S2138/8S138)

kalisphoenix said:
Not constantly. I mean, I read and deliberate more than I do anything else. I use a small font scaling so I can fit more words on the screen and move less often. Moving is a pain in the ass. So I read a page or so of an article or draft, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. I tap the trackpad, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. I write a few paragraphs, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. And so forth. It's irritating because it's a distraction, and I already have a cat that likes to climb on my head while I'm trying to write.
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I can understand it could be annoying but my Energy Savers aren't set to kick in so quickly.
 
Is this going to fix that debilitating wireless-signal-dropping bug on 10.4.10 MacBooks?

I had to downgrade to 10.4.9 and delete 10.4.10 from my Software Update just to avoid this.
 
uv23 said:
Please God, let them fix the energy saver "screen dimming" bug.
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I agree with you there, this feature hasn't worked without problems for ages in my experience. First it didn't work at all when you clicked it once (like Mitthrawnuruodo stated, you had to click it twice to make it effective) and now with 10.4.10 it does work for me, until I restart the computer... what's up with that. My iMac doesn't need screen dimming, it's really annoying when watching YouTube videos...

I also would like to see this Safari bug fixed. And yes, it is a bug, I filed it at Apple and I got the response that Apple Engineering knew about the problem and was investigating it. :)
 
CrackedButter said:
I like the fact that Apple are prepared to fix the current operating system knowing they are soon to release a new one. Unlike MS whose attitude differs somewhat on how to get a fix for a software problem, they force you to buy the new version!
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What the hell are you carrying on about? Microsoft supports their OS's for at least ten years. There are STILL updates to XP and Vista is out. There are even STILL updates for Windows 98 released! The MAC community in large is so disillusioned to anything outside of Apple it makes me feel sick sometimes to be a part of it.
 
I hope this will finally allow me to transfer songs to my mp3-player in OS X. I'm tired of running XP just because of that.

There seems to be a problem with the recognition of some usb hard-drives and similar devices with the current version of OS X. According to some posters in Apple forums the problems started after they updated their machine to 10.4.10. I haven't tested whether it all worked smoothly in the earlier versions, all I know is that OS X doesn't recognize my Samsung YP-Z5F.
 
daneoni said:
I didnt really know about the issues. Honest question it was, i dont own an SR MBP.

If this is the case then hopefully Apple addresses this in the update
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Me too, it is REALLY REALLY BAD! Most Gaes, Second Life, hell even Motion are unstable... they dont even crash just locks the WHOLE system! You can backdate to 10.4.9 but if you did the EFI update the system performance is HORRIBLE.. so either Ibook G4 1ghz speed or The Spped you paid for with daily crahes. In regards to open GL...

It is sad how much time I am being forced to spend in Vista ;\
 
Well, still another few months until 10.5. At least they aren't keeping us in purgatory with a lack of software updates.
 
kalisphoenix said:
Not constantly. I mean, I read and deliberate more than I do anything else. I use a small font scaling so I can fit more words on the screen and move less often. Moving is a pain in the ass. So I read a page or so of an article or draft, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. I tap the trackpad, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. I write a few paragraphs, think about it, and then the screen goes dim. And so forth. It's irritating because it's a distraction, and I already have a cat that likes to climb on my head while I'm trying to write.
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Had the same problem.

http://www.lightheadsw.com/caffeine/

Not a real bug fix, but a solid workaround.
 
10.4.11, eh? I guess it's finally time to upgrade from Panther? :D

A shame, I bought a Tiger install DVD off eBay like a year ago with the hopes that "any day now" I would find time to wipe my hard drive and reinstall fresh... but I've been so busy I haven't found time to do so. Now with Leopard around the corner I wonder if I might just skip Tiger entirely.
 
overcast said:
What the hell are you carrying on about? Microsoft supports their OS's for at least ten years. There are STILL updates to XP and Vista is out. There are even STILL updates for Windows 98 released! The MAC community in large is so disillusioned to anything outside of Apple it makes me feel sick sometimes to be a part of it.
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I agree that we shouldn't let fanboy-ism dominate us, but let's take a step back here. Windows 98 is no longer supported in any way, shape, or form--because of the lack of updates, it's now an extremely insecure way of doing business. It's good that there are still updates to XP, but let's not take this too far.

And as sick as fanboys may make you, doesn't the fact that you have a nice user experience make up for it? :)

As much as it pains me sometimes to hear the crooning of the fanboy, as a recent switcher, I'd never go back. It'd be like punching myself in the face in an attempt to have fun.
 
It will be good to see Tiger being updated again. 10.4.10 didn't seem like a final update. It doesn't seem as stable as it could be yet.
 
kalisphoenix said:
1. Tell your MacBook/? not to dim the screen after being idle for a while (not switch off the backlight, just dim it).
2. Reboot.
3. Repeat step 1, saying "Didn't I just @#$%ing tell it not to do that?"
4. Repeat step 2, and then 1 again.
5. Skip to step 6.
6. If you drink the Kool-Aid, turn to page 23. If you politely refuse, turn to page 12.

(At least, if this is the bug I'm thinking of)
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Yup, that's the one. Drives me absolutely batty. Especially since I've reported it numerous times to Apple, and if I remember correctly, it's been a bug all the way back since Panther.
 
overcast said:
What the hell are you carrying on about? Microsoft supports their OS's for at least ten years. There are STILL updates to XP and Vista is out. There are even STILL updates for Windows 98 released! The MAC community in large is so disillusioned to anything outside of Apple it makes me feel sick sometimes to be a part of it.
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1. The reason why Microsoft supports their OS's for that long is because the US Government made them. (Part of their anti-trust settlement.)

Before the FTC made Microsoft, they were quick to obsolete their products and screw-over their customers

2. It's "Mac," not "MAC." MAC is a network technical term.


I agree that SOME Mac fanboys are annoying. As John Gruber at daringfireball.net once pointed out, the true Apple fans are the ones who continually push Apple to do better and can see their faults. (And with Apple's sloppy quality of late, particularly in their laptop line and with the displays, it's getting easier and easier

But what is worse are the haters who treat the Mac community as a singular unit, all people being the same, and makes generalizations which are generally fabricated and filled with hatred.

Understand this: you have zero basis for your claim, "The MAC community in large is so disillusioned to anything outside of Apple" Could you possible generalize more about millions of people an unfounded personal opinion?

At least those that are part of the Apple community are passionate, not filled with hate and come here to have fun, not say condescending this.

Remember that next time time you want to post something like that.
 
mkrishnan said:
Surprising! It's nice to see continuing development on cleaning up the Tiger codebase. :)
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I see no reason why it wouldn't. Leopard still isn't due for another two months, and even then, most people aren't going to move to Leopard right away. After all, Tiger works fine, nothing outright wrong with it. It's like how Microsoft is actively marketing Vista, but is still continuing to support XP, at least for the next few years. I imagine Apple will continue to support Tiger for at least the next year or so.
 
BWhaler said:
The reason why Microsoft supports their OS's for that long is because the US Government made them. (Part of their anti-trust settlement.)
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Is this true to Apple aswell, seems that support for Panther stoppen at .9?

But good to see that some more bugs are sorted out (Y).
 
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