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to those who talk about tiger's "stability"...

I am a big apple fan have been for years. But I have got to say that despite all of apple's software updates for their current os, I get A LOT of randomly crashing applications. I'm not talking about poorly coded shareware either, I'm talking final cut pro, color, livetype. I just made the switch to the mbp st, and while I adore thesl speed I get twice as many lockups and crashes. Tiger, stable?not for me... Maybe this new update wipl alleviate some of my concerns..
 
tuck1989 said:
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to those who talk about tiger's "stability"...

I am a big apple fan have been for years. But I have got to say that despite all of apple's software updates for their current os, I get A LOT of randomly crashing applications. I'm not talking about poorly coded shareware either, I'm talking final cut pro, color, livetype. I just made the switch to the mbp st, and while I adore thesl speed I get twice as many lockups and crashes. Tiger, stable?not for me... Maybe this new update wipl alleviate some of my concerns..
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Run Main Menu -- it may help.:)
 
tuck1989 said:
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to those who talk about tiger's "stability"...

I am a big apple fan have been for years. But I have got to say that despite all of apple's software updates for their current os, I get A LOT of randomly crashing applications. I'm not talking about poorly coded shareware either, I'm talking final cut pro, color, livetype. I just made the switch to the mbp st, and while I adore thesl speed I get twice as many lockups and crashes. Tiger, stable?not for me... Maybe this new update wipl alleviate some of my concerns..
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Do you mean MBP SR? Cause if you do it randomly crashes alot on EVERYONE. The Nvidia Drivers are very very poor.
 
cleanup said:
Is this going to fix that debilitating wireless-signal-dropping bug on 10.4.10 MacBooks?

I had to downgrade to 10.4.9 and delete 10.4.10 from my Software Update just to avoid this.
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I hope this gets fixed too. My Powerbook g4 has been doing that since I upgraded to 10.4.10. It is annoying as hell.
 
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ah! Drivers... Haha that's probably it. Would display drivers be a problem for fcp though? I didn't think that was very GPU dependent. And yes, I meant mbp SR, typing on an iPhone :)
 
tuck1989 said:
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ah! Drivers... Haha that's probably it. Would display drivers be a problem for fcp though? I didn't think that was very GPU dependent. And yes, I meant mbp SR, typing on an iPhone :)
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Too be honost I am not sure how GPU dependant it is. I know its very GPU dependant as soon as any effects are applied. I am sorta in stuck mode since AVCHD is not working so well in 6.0.1 it crashes ALOT. Voltaic just updated so I may get back to editing here shortly.
 
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that sucks about avchd. I mostly edit for DVD so I'm always working with mpeg2...
 
tuck1989 said:
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that sucks about avchd. I mostly edit for DVD so I'm always working with mpeg2...
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Well yeah, AVCHD is really only used in a couple high end consumer camcorders anyways. It doesnt affect MPEG2 at all.

Seems like apple just quit getting anything right for a year for Iphone crappyness ;\ All there new products have been buggy at best and it's making me very unsatisfied!
 
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oh, you're talking about import problems. At least apple is better than avid, they still won't support my xh-a1's 24f mode :-(
 
So the 10.4.10 wireless bug affects powerbooks too, not just intel machines? My wife's powerbook has been really inconsistent since we moved to our new apartment, and i assumed that it was the new place. I hadn't realized it could have been the update. Anyone confirm?
 
parapup said:
(This occurs when updating OSX - If you are say, using Mail.app at the time when it does "Optimizing Performance" you are in bad luck - Mail.app will no longer start next time.)
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Oy! Hadn't heard about that one! Wish I had though...
Eidorian said:
I'm sure you don't touch your input devices then.
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Is that how the kids refer to it these days?
tuck1989 said:
I am a big apple fan have been for years. But I have got to say that despite all of apple's software updates for their current os, I get A LOT of randomly crashing applications. I'm not talking about poorly coded shareware either, I'm talking final cut pro, color, livetype. I just made the switch to the mbp st, and while I adore thesl speed I get twice as many lockups and crashes. Tiger, stable?not for me... Maybe this new update wipl alleviate some of my concerns..
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I have to admit, Tiger never really felt finished, but I haven't had too much of a problem with random crashing. I seem to hear the most complaints from Intel owners-- I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that Intel support came in midstream with Tiger and never got as stable as it should have...
 
G4DP said:
With all of these recent updates, seems Apple is starting to tie up all the loose ends. Although the testers here have reported 10.5 is still buggy, progress is obviously being made. So hopefully no more delays, and I can by that new MacPro in October.
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Ditto :D

I was having trouble with bluetooth just days ago....
I hope this fixes that!
 
cleanup said:
Is this going to fix that debilitating wireless-signal-dropping bug on 10.4.10 MacBooks?

I had to downgrade to 10.4.9 and delete 10.4.10 from my Software Update just to avoid this.
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No need to wait for 10.4.11, mate. Airport Update 2007-004 has been available on Software Update since yesterday. Fixed it for me.
 
Roadstar said:
No need to wait for 10.4.11, mate. Airport Update 2007-004 has been available on Software Update since yesterday. Fixed it for me.
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Did this update apply to powerbooks, too? Ours has had terrible wifi connectivity consistency issues for a month or so now, and I hadn't realized until a few posts ago that this could have coincided with the update to 10.4.10.

Has anyone else been having PPC airport problems since the last Tiger update?
 
circusbass said:
I hope this gets fixed too. My Powerbook g4 has been doing that since I upgraded to 10.4.10. It is annoying as hell.
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Likewise. Damn thing is practically unusable!

(On that note - if this message appears more than once, my apologies ... that'll be the MacBook timing out and me trying to unfreeze it.)

It seems to have also affected direct Mac-to-Mac Airport connections, because the MacBook is normally rock-solid at seeing the other machines in our house as well, but this too has been somewhat flaky since the 10.4.10 upgrade ... :(

Cheers!

Jim
 
InLikeALion said:
Did this update apply to powerbooks, too? Ours has had terrible wifi connectivity consistency issues for a month or so now, and I hadn't realized until a few posts ago that this could have coincided with the update to 10.4.10.

Has anyone else been having PPC airport problems since the last Tiger update?
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My powerbook was rock solid at finding my signal at home as well. Now it ittermittently disconnects and reconnects a few minutes later. It all began a month ago for me as well. The update above was not for powerbooks it was for intel machines. I am crossing my fingers this update fixes this. If not I have no idea what to do.
 
parapup said:
Yeah, I sure hope they mean to fix the nasty dyld/prebinding bug - that one has eaten up various of people's files leaving unstartable apps. (This occurs when updating OSX - If you are say, using Mail.app at the time when it does "Optimizing Performance" you are in bad luck - Mail.app will no longer start next time.)

This bug has impacted me recently during the 10.4.9 update.
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omg is that when u update or do something, and later on ur system just flat out crashes and burns because some weird system folder is missing all the files?? :(
That has happened to me i hate that!
 
I hopo they can fix the airport issue with the macbooks, I recently made the update to 10.4.10 in my brand new MacBook and I sufferd a lot of kernel panics, I restored my system and I'm still with the version 10.4.9
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Intel-based Macs: Built-in display dims before sleep
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That article is more than a year old. I guess they just gave up on fixing it. I'd think it would be pretty easy to fix. It is just a simple setting.

USB issues sound like a much bigger deal and I did not upgrade to 10.4.10 out of fear I'll hit by that bug. It is quite ironic that one of 10.4.10 bug fixes was USB issues. It sounds like that made things even worse.

Right now, Finder is the weakest link for me. It crashes every now and then, but it happens very quickly without freezing the whole computer, so it is not a big deal. I get annoyed more

1) when I drag and drop a large number of files and almost all of them end up sitting on top of each other until I sort them by name or something of that sort.

2) Sometimes items refuse to cling to the grid. This one is infrequent, but still annoying.

3) The "View Options" default to "all windows". How many times do you change your icon size or displayed columns types for all of your windows vs. change them for that particular window?

4) I also don't know how to change the default size of the new Finder windows.

For a piece of OSX that get used every day, Finder is definitely not Apple worthy. I hope Leopard version is better. Does anybody know?
 
Bluetooth driver crashes

The one bug that is a right PITA is the bluetooth/wireless mouse driver crash. This is where you're using the wireless Mightymouse, close the lid of the Macbook or MBP and take it home. Then you discover it's not suspended and has been slowly cooking in your bag - not to mention consuming all the battery.

Once it's done this it won't even reboot on shutdown as it just sits there with a blue/whatever screen. The only way to complete the shutdown is to hold the button for 5 seconds.

Happens to my MBP quite often and also on a friend's Blackbook.

Best workaround is to remember to use the wireless Mightymouse to turn off Bluetooth. Even that's not guaranteed to work every time.

Damn frustrating - it's the sort of thing you'd expect from MS, not Apple. I do hope they fix this.
 
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