Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F5)

[DiamondMac]

I have actually been very impressed with their current version and hope nothing major is changed to screw up any stability that I currently have which I did NOT have in a few previous updates

Bug fixes sound good though!

 

[MacsRgr8]

Nice

But, where's the Snow Leopard beta seed..?

 

[MIDI_EVIL]

Nice

But, where's the Snow Leopard beta seed..?

It's already out there...

 

[kaiwai]

It's already out there...

I think he means along the lines of a 'beta refresh' given that the one given out at the WWDC would have been atleast a month old (for pressing time) - so alot could have been added/changed since that initial seed.

I have a feeling that 10.5.5 will be the last huge push before turning their focus to really pushing Snow Leopard forward. It would be nice, however, if they used ASLR alot more with their software - make things a little more secure.

 

[ikir]

When we'll see some 3D drivers improvements? Especially for GMA x3100, it can do much more better than now.

 

[kaiwai]

When we'll see some 3D drivers improvements? Especially for GMA x3100, it can do much more better than now.

I second that. I have a look at all the information on the x3100 - and in theory it should be performing alot better than it is right now.

 

[haravikk]

I just want them to fix the bloody moving of mail in IMAP that means that all my junk mail ends up in my inbox despite my having a perfectly good junk-mail folder for it.

That and the damned Finder, which I've wanted overhauled since v10.0, maybe they'll do it in Snow Leopard, though I doubt it

 

[trevorlsciact]

All the iMacs except the current 17"...

The current 17" am I missing a joke or something?

 

[Apple Ink]

The current 17" am I missing a joke or something?

Um... no! Its available for education users (no aluminum... the same ol' white mega chin)

 

[trevorlsciact]

Um... no! Its available for education users (no aluminum... the same ol' white mega chin)

Really how? I went into the education store and didn't see it

 

[badabing2005]

Sweet hope they fix the Leopard Wifi issue.

 

[Apple Ink]

Really how? I went into the education store and didn't see it

http://www.apple.com/education/solutions/imac/

 

[trevorlsciact]

http://www.apple.com/education/solutions/imac/

hmmm ok, but you have to search to find it in the store. i bet they won't sell it much longer.

 

[Apple Ink]

hmmm ok, but you have to search to find it in the store. i bet they won't sell it much longer.

Im betting $5 they will!

P.S.: In record, Ive never ever won a bet! LOL

 

[CWallace]

Seems odd Apple would tell developers not to install it on Macs with integrated graphics...

I could understand this if the warning was for those testing it on Montevina-platform machines using the X4500 (since Intel was having issues with it), but if Apple has that platform in test, I imagine it's internal to Apple so no need to warn "public" testers.

 

[b34tn1k]

(with Intel integrated graphics).
Article Link

intel graphics = fail

 

[flrazor]

I like that they are addressing issues with some kernel panics... 90% of the time that I unplug a mouse from my MBPs USB port, I get a kernel panic.

I just seem to be getting them randomly after a certain amount of time with my MBP. Sometimes everything works great, then sometimes an hour in I'll be browsing the web, or playing a game, or just reading mail and BOOM! There's no common thread to it either, unlike the quoted poster. Plugged in or battery, on for 4 hours or 15 minutes, no repeatable issue. Old G4 tower running all the same software (and sometimes more) and OS 10.5.4 has no issues at all.

I'm getting really tired of it and I'd rather not have to get it looked at or reinstall everything just to hope that it will go away. Is this a known issue with the MBP right now? I can't seem to find any reports consistent to my issues with random KPs.

 

[JML42691]

Seems odd Apple would tell developers not to install it on Macs with integrated graphics...

I could understand this if the warning was for those testing it on Montevina-platform machines using the X4500 (since Intel was having issues with it), but if Apple has that platform in test, I imagine it's internal to Apple so no need to warn "public" testers.

My guess is that there is either a problem with the drivers that somehow came up in 10.5.5 and they don't want people to install it until that problem is fixed in the next release, or that they haven't worked those drivers into the release at all yet.

 

[iMacmatician]

There's a new product that uses integrated graphics coming out soon.

The new MacBook. x4500.

LMAO

But, where's the Snow Leopard beta seed..?

The second Leopard beta seed came out a two months and a week after the first, so going by that, we could see the next Snow Leopard beta seed in about three weeks time.

I could understand this if the warning was for those testing it on Montevina-platform machines using the X4500 (since Intel was having issues with it), but if Apple has that platform in test, I imagine it's internal to Apple so no need to warn "public" testers.

Internal to Apple = Internal custom Apple chipset?

 

[twoodcc]

well anything to decrease the number of kernel panics is good

 

[PrismaticRealms]

Maybe Time Machine will work again!

 

[MacsRgr8]

I think he means along the lines of a 'beta refresh' given that the one given out at the WWDC would have been atleast a month old (for pressing time) - so alot could have been added/changed since that initial seed.

Yep.
And the fact that it has not been seeded on the dev. site, yet. IIRC the WWDC hand-out still is the only copy made available.

 

[Eric S.]

I have a feeling that 10.5.5 will be the last huge push before turning their focus to really pushing Snow Leopard forward.

Why would you think that? Assuming 10.5.5 is released in a month or so, that still leaves about nine more months before SL comes out. Historically, we should expect three or four more minor upgrades to Leopard in that amount of time. But obviously Apple is already working hard on SL and has been for some time.

It would be nice, however, if they used ASLR alot more with their software - make things a little more secure.

What is ASLR?

 

[kaiwai]

Why would you think that? Assuming 10.5.5 is released in a month or so, that still leaves about nine more months before SL comes out. Historically, we should expect three or four more minor upgrades to Leopard in that amount of time. But obviously Apple is already working hard on SL and has been for some time.

I never said that 10.5.5 was the last update, I said: "I have a feeling that 10.5.5 will be the last huge push" - meaning, it might be quite some time before we get another update. We'll get them, but not at the same frantic pace.

What is ASLR?

Address Space Layout Randomiser:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization

Mac OS X also supports No eXecute (NX) on the Intel processors too. So there is quite a fair bit of security built in which most don't know about.

 

[Eric S.]

I never said that 10.5.5 was the last update, I said: "I have a feeling that 10.5.5 will be the last huge push" - meaning, it might be quite some time before we get another update. We'll get them, but not at the same frantic pace.

But I wouldn't call the current pace frantic, because it closely matches the historical pattern of updates for Panther and Tiger. (And going further back, the current pace is even more leisurely than Jaguar.) 10.5.4 probably came out more rapidly than average because of MobileMe support, but I see no reason not to expect updates every two to three months until Snow Leopard's release.

Address Space Layout Randomiser:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization

Mac OS X also supports No eXecute (NX) on the Intel processors too. So there is quite a fair bit of security built in which most don't know about.

Very interesting.