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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F5)

I've found 10.5.4 to be very stable, although I'm after performance increases.

I always find it interesting to see the list of fixes Apple posts once an update is released. With over 50 fixes in this build, what else is there to patch up? I know some people are still experiencing issues, but with every update release, there is always over 50 fixes.
 
Kilamite said:
I've found 10.5.4 to be very stable, although I'm after performance increases.

I always find it interesting to see the list of fixes Apple posts once an update is released. With over 50 fixes in this build, what else is there to patch up? I know some people are still experiencing issues, but with every update release, there is always over 50 fixes.
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In any software product as large and complicated as OS X there are always thousands of bugs, if not tens of thousands. If they say they made 50 fixes in an update, those are only the high priority items. It's likely to contain many more lower priority fixes as well.
 
Any news on ZFS?

I checked the forge, they wanted to update to Version 2 and sync with the current ZFS version in SVN, which is 90 something. I would assume 10.5 would be a good opportunity for that.
 
Kilamite said:
I've found 10.5.4 to be very stable, although I'm after performance increases.

I always find it interesting to see the list of fixes Apple posts once an update is released. With over 50 fixes in this build, what else is there to patch up? I know some people are still experiencing issues, but with every update release, there is always over 50 fixes.
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Agree completely

I would say this is maybe the most stable OS version I have had in quite awhile

Not saying past ones were bad or anything but I have very few if any complaints at all with it
 
I hope 10.5.5 addresses the fact that some users' MacBooks (and maybe MBP as well) will not sleep if the lid is left open. Following the steps in some threads on this forum, as well as in some discussions @ apple.com have left me without sleep on my MacBook. Please fix this Apple!
 
Eric S. said:
Why would you think that? Assuming 10.5.5 is released in a month or so, that still leaves about nine more months before SL comes out. Historically, we should expect three or four more minor upgrades to Leopard in that amount of time. But obviously Apple is already working hard on SL and has been for some time.


Isn't there 2 groups of Mac OS programmers. One group works on the current version. Sometimes new features can be added, but generally at this point their job is to get rid of the many bugs that are almost always present.

Then the second group works on the next Mac OS to come out. In this case Snow Leopard. This usually means that the development of one does not hold back the development of the other. But when the iPhone first came out these were the programmers that Apple used to work on the new iPhone OS rather than 10.5.0, aka Leopard.

I'm sure that it is not this simple, but for our use here it would be close enough.

Bill the TaxMan
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OrleansMac said:
Agree completely

I would say this is maybe the most stable OS version I have had in quite awhile

Not saying past ones were bad or anything but I have very few if any complaints at all with it
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After 8 months of steadily worse problems with my ATI x1900 video card on my Intel Mac Pro, Apple finally replaced the card. After that fix Mac OS 10.4.11 stopped crashing several times a day. It also allowed me to correctly install Mac OS 10.5.4.

As far as OS stability goes Mac OS 10.5.4 seems very stable. Except for some problems the OS has hith my Plantronics BlueTooth headset, there is basically no system freeezes or crashes.

But many of things that were changed in OS 10.5 causes me work flow problems. Because they are problems with the way I use my Mac they will probably never be fixed. I spend a lot more time moving around in my storage system when saving files.

It will be good to see many of the remaining Mac OS 10.5 bugs fixed in the many OS updates still to come. Maybe the few problems I have will be fixed for me as well as for the many other Mac OS 10.5 users.

Bill the TaxMan
 
heisetax said:
Isn't there 2 groups of Mac OS programmers. One group works on the current version. Sometimes new features can be added, but generally at this point their job is to get rid of the many bugs that are almost always present.

Then the second group works on the next Mac OS to come out. In this case Snow Leopard. This usually means that the development of one does not hold back the development of the other. But when the iPhone first came out these were the programmers that Apple used to work on the new iPhone OS rather than 10.5.0, aka Leopard.

I'm sure that it is not this simple, but for our use here it would be close enough.

Bill the TaxMan
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The two groups to which you refer are generally called "sustaining" and "development." I don't know Apple's internal procedures but it's a good bet that you are essentially correct. Of course, fixes for bugs in the current OS usually need to be forward-ported to the code base of the next version and tested there as well.
 
there is one tiny bug, that bothers me the most since it constantly affects my work:

1) open a pdf with preview.
2) switch to the select tool.
3) select any rectangular on the pdf.
4) hit edit->copy or apple-c
5) try to insert it into an iWorks document: instead of the snapshot it will show the whole page.

this issue exists since the 10.5.0 preview and its soooo annoying. especially, since the clipboard should be one of the killer arguments for apples objective- c platform and copying out pdf- snaps would be one of the shiniest features of the OS X clipboard. (in 10.4 this actually worked, it would NOT just make a bmp but an actual PDF snap that SCALES). that this isn't solved yet really bothers me and it seems kind of unusual for apple.
 
I really hope they get the performance up there.

I was seriously disappointed when Leopard ended up about 4 times slower than 10.4.10. 10.5.4 has improved things to 2-3 times slower, so things have improved but Leopard is not showing its worth to me.
 
heisetax said:
Isn't there 2 groups of Mac OS programmers. One group works on the current version. Sometimes new features can be added, but generally at this point their job is to get rid of the many bugs that are almost always present.

Then the second group works on the next Mac OS to come out. In this case Snow Leopard. This usually means that the development of one does not hold back the development of the other. But when the iPhone first came out these were the programmers that Apple used to work on the new iPhone OS rather than 10.5.0, aka Leopard.

I'm sure that it is not this simple, but for our use here it would be close enough.
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That's what I've heard. I've also heard that both teams converged to work on Leopard.

This would explain why Leopard's delay probably affected the release timeframe of Snow Leopard.
 
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