Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.6.2 Build 10C527f to Developers

[arkmannj]

iTunes for Mac users is not 64bit but for Windows Vista and Windows 7 is. What I don't get is whats with all the rush for 64bit? I like how apps load faster in 64bit but I think a lot of people are still misunderstanding what the point of 64bit is.

Also, I heard that Microsoft is planning a 128 Biit OS for Windows 8. Ridiculous in my opinion there is barely 64bit apps out yet and Microsoft is jumping ahead of themselves as usual.

Windows 8 / 9 is still far enough out that I'm sure they are claiming it will have WinFS and Duke Nukem Forever included. I wouldn't put to much stock in what they are claiming yet.

But even if they are working on 128-bit I can't say it's necessarily a bad thing. Looking forward is a good thing. It's better than them saying "No one will ever need anything beyond 64bit". In fact I would hope that enough lessons are being learned from the transition to 64-bit that all the OS makers out there will have a better time when it's appropriate to make the 'next step' I can't fault them (or anyone else) wanting to make use of the lessons while they are still fresh on their minds.

 

[dwman]

Precisely the reason I've held off on upgrading to SL. Could be a few more nasty bugs that have yet to be sussed out. Maybe by 10.6.3 or 10.6.4.

 

[elliethebug]

Store STILL down

Store is down FYI

It's been two hours...what are they cooking? I bet it is not a fix for SL that crashes every application one tries to use?!...

 

[zw-gator]

Meh, I'm more interested in a new version of Safari and speed improvements.

 

[DCJ001]

hopefully it will fix the mail rss problem

Please explain what the problem is. Thanks.

 

[MKnight]

I don't have any problems sending email through smtp.gmail.com through mail.app in 10.6.1.

Never have....

hopefully it will fx the damn issue with Google mail not connect to smtp server so i can send a blood email! just stopped randomly!

 

[Richard1028]

It's been two hours...what are they cooking?

the $799 i7 macbook.

I bet it is not a fix for SL that crashes every application one tries to use?!...

Dude, if you can't run any application on SL then 10.6.2 probably won't help - you got bigger issues.

Power up your mac maybe?

 

[apfhex]

big list o' issues

What about poor Preview.app? It's really, really buggy when opening groups of images and a lot less stable than it was in Leopard.

I think a lot of people are still misunderstanding what the point of 64bit is.

Aye. Everyone wants their apps in 64bit high definition 240Hz 802.11N gigabit Cocoa Intel-only binaries, because clearly anything less wouldn't be Snappy enough. And it sure as hell better be able to send MMS too.

The only thing that is 64-bit is the driver for the iThing.

iThing?

 

[stue13]

Store is down FYI

Ya, just noticed that, wonder what's going on?

 

[Doctor Q]

I want the old Expose back!

Why? Please explain.

 

[celticpride678]

I say around 2 more beta released and then the final thing. Two weeks? Glad to see Apple is trying to solve almost all issues. It seems like it will be a huge update because that it is the second straight release with 480+ MB. Hmmm....

 

[Krafty]

Aye. Everyone wants their apps in 64bit high definition 240Hz 802.11N gigabit Cocoa Intel-only binaries, because clearly anything less wouldn't be Snappy enough. And it sure as hell better be able to send MMS too.

I think you mean 835MHz HD 1080p 64bit 802.11N terabit Cocoa Intel-only binaries.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Itunes 8 and 9 always been on 32 bits for Mac and 64 bits for WINSHIT...

iTunes for Mac users is not 64bit but for Windows Vista and Windows 7 is. What I don't get is whats with all the rush for 64bit? I like how apps load faster in 64bit but I think a lot of people are still misunderstanding what the point of 64bit is.

Also, I heard that Microsoft is planning a 128 Biit OS for Windows 8. Ridiculous in my opinion there is barely 64bit apps out yet and Microsoft is jumping ahead of themselves as usual.

You guys should really research what you're talking about before you go around and condemn it.

Intel's processors post-Ivy Bridge are possibly going to be 128-bit. 128-bit can allow for more complex computations for intensive apps and I would think they would be especially useful on the Server side.

 

[shady825]

Precisely the reason I've held off on upgrading to SL. Could be a few more nasty bugs that have yet to be sussed out. Maybe by 10.6.3 or 10.6.4.

Might as well never upgrade then!?

 

[skate71290]

I don't have any problems sending email through smtp.gmail.com through mail.app in 10.6.1.

Never have....

same problem happens on my iPhone leading me to believe it might be setup up incorrectly... but i left Mail App to set it up for me...

 

[baryon]

'... contains only one known issues' this surely has to mean the full release is just around the corner

Still nothing in the seed notes about the trackpad/exposes bouncing windows issue

I think this might be it: "an issue with the 4-finger swipe gesture"
I wrote Apple a bug report an the most probably automated message told me that it's a known issue and they're working on it.

 

[MrCrowbar]

Awesome, seems like they fixed those 2 annoying problems I had: the exposé bug (4 finger swipe) and the address book picture editing. I really want that update.

PS: I got a "Preformance Update" yesterday, said something about hard drive hangs. Haven't seen a beachball since.

 

[jkmassel]

You are misinformed.

I am not. Open snow leopard running a 64 bit kernel. iTunes will be running 64 bit.

Run iTunes on an x64 Windows installation. It'll be a 64 bit app as well

 

[jkmassel]

My understanding is that iTunes 9 still uses Carbon, not Cocoa. Carbon as far as I know is not being granted the ability to run 64bit, for 64bit goodness iTunes would need to be rewritten in Cocoa.

Hold down the 6 and 4 buttons while launching snow leopard. It'll cause it to boot into a 64-bit only kernel, and iTunes will detect this and run in 64 bit mode

 

[jkmassel]

Your activity monitor will tell you otherwise..

apple doesn't run iTunes in 64 bit mode unless the kernel is also running in 64 bit mode

 

[MrCrowbar]

I want the old Expose back!

I hear you. I haven't gotten used to the Snow Leopard's exposé and I've been using Snow since day one. I don't like how it resizes the windows now. If I have one lagre Safari window and one small Skype window, doing exposé shrinks down the Safari window to the size of the Skype window making it harder to tell them apart. If you have a bunch of windows open, doing expose makes them all the same size now. The windows are not even grouped by application, it's just a mess of bright rectangles with cut off subtitles.

Then If I want to get the hidden Mail windows on top, clicking it on the dock opens the context menu which doesn't make sense at all. I have to quit exposé to get to the Mail app altogether. Even application switcher doesn't help.

 

[RazHyena]

Maybe I missed it but.....this patch doesn't address anything to do with the Flash plugin for Safari, does it?

 

[atheros07]

Can't wait... looks like they've fixed the minor bugs I've noticed so far: a barely perceptible screen flickering with the NVIDIA 9400 graphics card, and the strange 4-finger swipe behavior in Expose/Show Desktop. I've also noticed that icons seem to take a second to render when you open a stack as a grid-- that might be a bug as well.

Other than that SL 10.6.1 has been working out well for me-- no hangups yet and Safari is blazingly fast.

 

[Richard1028]

Maybe I missed it but.....this patch doesn't address anything to do with the Flash plugin for Safari, does it?

Why would Apple work on Adobe's product?

 

[iBug2]

I am not. Open snow leopard running a 64 bit kernel. iTunes will be running 64 bit.

Run iTunes on an x64 Windows installation. It'll be a 64 bit app as well

Incorrect. iTunes is 32 bit on SL, and also on Vista 64. Only the iPod/iPhone driver is 64 bit for Windows.