Apple Seeds Mac OS X Leopard (9A527/9A528a)

[TheSpaz]

Much easier to read icon text with that new image than the wet grass. It is also fairly abstract looking.

I have a feeling though that the final release will go back to wet grass, since Steve seemed really proud of it at WWDC - even though everyone laughed when he showed them. Unless the laughter actually made him feel bad, and he ordered a new default.

I think the default grass picture looks very amateur and too distracting of a photo to use as a desktop. It will more than likely be added to the nature desktop pictures with the default as the space desktop. I really like how the space one looks... that's wicked badass and it's not distracting... it's just right.

 

[Project]

What I don't get is why Apple made a big emphasis about system wide conformity with the look of windows and no brushed metal and then they released iLife '08 with windows that don't match that theme... Specifically garage band and the other ones are much darker too like iMovie etc. Anybody else notice that???

Does it matter? They conform in that for the most part window behaviour is consistent. The visuality of the window isnt a real problem. In fact, its a good thing in that it differentiates the application in éxpose and Spaces

 

[SiliconAddict]

Psst. Apple. Small tip. If you want feedback you could get a heck of a lot more input by opening up a release candidate to the lowly fanbase who would test the living crap out of 10.5. Heck even if it was another 5K you could get way more overall feedback but hey. What better way to say your OS is ready then to release a major update within 3 months of launch which I can bet they will do.
PS- Leave MS out of this. We all know MS faults. This is purely an Apple pet peeve of mine. Apple OS's could be a heck of a lot more stable out of the box if they would release "Release Candidate" builds to Apple Enthusiasts. No one is going to test the crap out of it more then us.

 

[MacFly123]

He obviously took the new wallpaper from 9A527 and applied it to his desktop on 10.4.

I think it looks pretty great. It's also makes reading icon labels easier compared to the wallpaper from WWDC.

Ok so maybe I shouldn't have asked... I assumed that, but if you noticed like 3 other people asked too

I think it is really cool, BUT, I don't think it gives enough contrast between the Time Machine background. It kind of takes the wow factor away.... Look what my Mac can do..... Ok I'm in space, but if I click this button the space falls down and......... TUH DUH I'm still in space lol... WOW

I think they should make a new blue abstract like they have for all other versions. And yes I hate Vista, but better yet, make it animated Sorry, but i think it would be cool

 

[MacFly123]

I think the default grass picture looks very amateur and too distracting of a photo to use as a desktop. It will more than likely be added to the nature desktop pictures with the default as the space desktop. I really like how the space one looks... that's wicked badass and it's not distracting... it's just right.

LOL I just think it is funny that calm green grass is distracting to you but not a massive blaring bright nebula lol

Don't get me wrong, I think it is cool, but its all personal opinion here, I don't think it is right to be the default wallpaper. Like i said before, it doesn't contrast enough with Time Machine.

 

[messedkid]

I had a dream once. I had just installed leopard..and a real leopard jumped out the screen and ate me



Real happy about these seeds. Definatly believing that it will be ready by october. Cant wait

 

[Project]

Psst. Apple. Small tip. If you want feedback you could get a heck of a lot more input by opening up a release candidate to the lowly fanbase who would test the living crap out of 10.5. Heck even if it was another 5K you could get way more overall feedback but hey. What better way to say your OS is ready then to release a major update within 3 months of launch which I can bet they will do.
PS- Leave MS out of this. We all know MS faults. This is purely an Apple pet peeve of mine. Apple OS's could be a heck of a lot more stable out of the box if they would release "Release Candidate" builds to Apple Enthusiasts. No one is going to test the crap out of it more then us.

They already do have a fanbase beta feedback program. It costs just $129 to join and is available at all Apple stores at the end of October.

 

[MacFly123]

Does it matter? They conform in that for the most part window behaviour is consistent. The visuality of the window isnt a real problem. In fact, its a good thing in that it differentiates the application in éxpose and Spaces

I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't really sound like what Steve Jobs said during his keynote Everything is just going to look like iTunes now anyway lol!

 

[thefunkymunky]

Does Leopard support DLNA/UPNP out of the box?

Can someone confirm whether Leopard has DLNA/UPNP support built-in?

 

[Project]

I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't really sound like what Steve Jobs said during his keynote Everything is just going to look like iTunes now anyway lol!

Well they almost all work like iTunes with the source pane, collapsible sections, unified toolbar etc. I thought Jobs focuses specifically on the Finder when he said that. But I see nothing wrong with distinct visual cues for each application; woodgrain on Garageband, Apertureisation of iMovie and so on.

However, for things like System Preferences and general OS windows, they all look the same. This is a good thing.

 

[BWhaler]

Notes I've observed so far:

1. Menu bar is now only slightly transparent. Primarily white based. Much better, readable.
2. Traffic Lights (Close, Minimize, Zoom) are different.
3. Seems much snappier.
4. The gradient on menu-selections is now the same selected-gradient you see in the sidebar of the Finder (and latest iTunes releases)

This is the first good news I have read about Leopard since pre-WWDC. (WWDC was a major let down for me.)

I still feel like Leopard is one, maybe two, great innovations short. But as long as it is faster, not buggy, I think the current features are an OK upgrade.

I am confused, however, about why 10.5 took so long to come. It seems to be an anemic upgrade overall. Perhaps iPhone and the big secret project took/are taking up a ton of resources...

 

[Manic Mouse]

I can feel Leopard getting close...

 

[MartinAyla]

New iMac Aluminum

Please, anynone...

Does the new build work on the new iMac aluminum's?

The other builds don't.

 

[Stridder44]

I had a dream once. I had just installed leopard..and a real leopard jumped out the screen and ate me

I don't get it.


Anyway, good to hear things are moving along in Leopard.

 

[08380728]

I promise you that in the final builds you will see all the aqua scroll bars and buttons and other things take the iTunes and iPhone look... Mark my words... You can already see that they are in the conversion process!

I wont be buying Leopard if that is the case. I hate the iTunes Scroll bars they look like a 2 year old designed them something M$ would dish out. Besides that no Quartz 2D Extreme and Resolution Independence = no sale, not to mention no more input managers so the loss of automatic file transfer acceptance via Chax in iChat is a deal breaker. There is basically nothing really Leopard offers me anyways which i can't achieve with a 3rd party app. Apple should just change the black cursor to a white windows cursor like all the other windows rubbish leopard seems to be copying.

 

[ppnkg]

They already do have a fanbase beta feedback program. It costs just $129 to join and is available at all Apple stores at the end of October.

so true.

 

[Simmerl]

I wont be buying Leopard if that is the case. I hate the iTunes Scroll bars they look like a 2 year old designed them something M$ would dish out.
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Apple should just change the black cursor to a white windows cursor like all the other windows rubbish leopard seems to be copying.

Are color and transparency of scrollbars, menubar and dock the only things we discuss on the boards?

 

[Analog Kid]

I am confused, however, about why 10.5 took so long to come. It seems to be an anemic upgrade overall. Perhaps iPhone and the big secret project took/are taking up a ton of resources...

I don't have access to Leopard, but a lot of the work tends to be to the OS itself, not just the GUI. Most of what gets highlighted in the keynotes is really just application development-- iChat isn't really part of the OS, it's a packaged app, as is Safari, Mail, etc.

We do know that the frameworks got a work over (Core Animation, for example) and there were rumors of major work being done on Quicktime. The average user will never know that the Quicktime API changed, but those kinds of changes do make a difference.

 

[Project]

Are color and transparency of scrollbars, menubar and dock the only things we discuss on the boards?

Its hilarious man, it really is. People arent paying for Leopard because the scrollbars are not lickable and the dock is 3D.

 

[MacsAttack]

They already do have a fanbase beta feedback program. It costs just $129 to join and is available at all Apple stores at the end of October.

As anyone who works in software developemnt will tell you (to paraphrase) - no software survives contact with the enemy... eeerrr... end user.

Are there going to be bugs in the released version of Leopard? Yes. The only question is whether they will be "show-stoppers" on a per-user basis. 10.5.0 will be followed by 10.5.1 (which will fix some "last minute" things that did not make it into the gold master). 10.5.2 will (hopefully) fix most of the issues that come to light when Leopard "goes live".

A cautious user will of course continue to use Tiger 10.4.11 (or 10.4.12?) until Leopard's replacment is released - and then upgrade to Leopard 10.5.14 (or whatever).

 

[DHagan4755]

If a picture of space is the new default desktop picture, is that image also the default background at the login window, or is that still the blue abstract pattern? Is the "Welcome to Mac OS X" window at startup still missing?

 

[anthonyb]

Click on the Smiley Face when you get there.

I cant get this link to work. Does anyone else know where i can find this?

 

[Nightkrawler]

http://bayimg.com/FAgaeAabf
found at bayimg

 

[Lesser Evets]

Seriously. I am so tired of hearing about how much the dock sucks, blah blah blah. As though the entire OS is dependent upon the graphical dock.

Serious. Big f'n whoop - it will grow on you. If it functions and isn't obtrusive it will be fine. All this transparent quibbling is esoteric trivia.

I am more curious about the function. Hoping the cover flow type stuff is keen, and Boot Camp is nice and functional, personally.

 

[ProFont]

Hoping [...] Boot Camp is nice and functional, personally.

What more do you expect from Boot Camp beyond updated drivers and various bugfixes?