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Apple Seeds Mac OS X Leopard (9A527/9A528a)
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Any Screenshots?
Nobody?
It's about time. So many ppl seem to have it already and this seems to have the most visual changes since wwdc...
come on, plz... post screenshots someone
Nobody?
It's about time. So many ppl seem to have it already and this seems to have the most visual changes since wwdc...
come on, plz... post screenshots someone
I did not know that this Dock argument ever existed....I like the dock
I also really like the 3D appearance of the dock verses the flat look of Tigers dock. Although IM very content with Tiger too!
Bring it on Apple!
Any Screenshots?
Nobody?
It's about time. So many ppl seem to have it already and this seems to have the most visual changes since wwdc...
come on, plz... post screenshots someone
Looks like most of the developers on here are adhering to their NDAs.
Good. I want to be surprised come October.
What?
Maybe u live in the us?? Sometimes i think high speed internet is much more common in europe...
What?
Maybe u live in the us?? Sometimes i think high speed internet is much more common in europe...
I have high speed internet @ home (I live in the US). It's a 6 Mbps download speed at best from comcast and it's taking more than 2 hours to download. So when you add in burning it to DVD & actually installing it, that's probably 4 hours at least.
Edit: now it's going to take 4.5 hours just to download.
Apparently no one else gets that the graphical user interface isn't the major issue with Leopard
, kind of funny as there are numerous major updates that no one else is discussing.Fast user switching into Windows on Boot Camp would be nice. That way it doesn't require a reboot, but simply a wake from sleep/hibernation.
1) The UI is a major issue, because leopard is not exactly beautiful.Apparently no one else gets that the graphical user interface isn't the major issue with Leopard
Theres a lot of hope this changes
2) I'm very interested in the changes in the new build. If you have some info it'd be nice to share it.
Apparently no one else gets that the graphical user interface isn't the major issue with Leopard
Umm... GUI is very important. Apple is known to be simple and stylish and when the interface isn't like that... people get mad. It's something you have to sit and look at all day so we want it to look nice. GUI is all part of the overall experience and I can see someone not wanting to upgrade because they do not like the GUI. It's all part of the entire user experience and if you can't accept that, then that's pretty lame.
I had a dream once. I had just installed leopard..and a real leopard jumped out the screen and ate me
Real happy about these seeds. Definatly believing that it will be ready by october. Cant wait
I LISTEN TO LOTS AND LOT OF SKA!
Nobody is saying the GUI is unimportant. What some of us are saying is that the GUI changes in Leopard are fairly minor - more polish and glitz on top of the already great UI we have in Tiger.
Leopard is far more about what's under the skin than the spots on it. You're going to find a ton more apps making Leopard the minimum OS because of the huge dramatic improvements to the OS that app devs just won't be able to live without.
"What some of us are saying is that the GUI changes in Leopard are fairly minor"
Unfortunately those minor changes are highly controversial, like the new dock, menu-bar, much darker and dull appearence, dull new folders...
Some things are really bad changes, like those horrible blue dots in the dock.
Unfortunately those minor changes are highly controversial, like the new dock, menu-bar, much darker and dull appearence, dull new folders...
Some things are really bad changes, like those horrible blue dots in the dock.
Thank you, you saved me the effort in typing... further, it seems a lot of the "newbie" members of Macrumors and new Mac owners are the ones that complain about the new UI. Interesting...
I'm typing this from the new seed. First, Leopard is gorgeous. Not sure why you would think otherwise, but the UI is much more attractive and consistent.
I had mixed feelings about the transparent menu bar in the last two seeds, but the slight tweaks in this seed make all the difference. It's more opaque and blurs the underlying image more, so it looks good against everything. I've got my background set to change randomly every minute, with about a hundred different images to choose from, and they all look nice with it. You'll like it.
Second, the UI changes are such a tiny thing compared to the rest of Leopard that it's amusing to see so much time spent discussing it. Leopard is not about the new UI. It's got hundreds upon hundreds of small improvements that individually may not sound all that exciting, but all together make for a huge leap forward.
After using Leopard, going back to Tiger is like fingernails on a chalkboard. And I loved Tiger.
I don't want to break my NDA in a big way, so I'll just add one more thing. Leopard is fast. Impossibly fast compared to Tiger, and it makes Vista seem like it is running in slow motion. Spotlight is really instant now, to the point that I uninstalled QuickSilver. If you've used QuickSilver, hopefully you understand what a big deal that is.
For reference, my Leopard machine is a first-gen MacBook -- the lowest configuration, but bumped to 1GB RAM. My Tiger machine is a 2.66GHz Mac Pro with 3GB RAM. And the MacBook is snappier.
As others have said, don't knock them until you try them. Screenshots rarely tell the whole story. Seems to be a common refrain. Think about why.
Personally, I've used every Leopard build since the first beta, and I've really grown to like the new dock and Menu bar. I can tell you with little doubt the reasoning behind the changes, it increases desktop space and/or the appearance of more desktop real estate. The dock and menu bar are less distracting, especially when using other programs such as Photoshop, that usually require a great deal of desktop space. The Tiger dock is much bigger with its square shape, no matter how much you shrink it down. The graphics in the Leopard dock are much slicker and less distracting, yet easy to access and recognize.
As for the darker comments, yeah, I do tend to agree the whole space concept is a bit much (lord, now I'M getting into the graphical user interface debate lol), and seems a bit dated. I wish they would stick to the basic format of pervious releases with the usual takes on older wallpapers.
HOWEVER, when is Apple going to allow the user to alter the interface in the same manner of Windows (don't get me wrong, I don't like Windows much). It would be nice to change the color scheme, transparency, etc as Windows allows through theme changes, instead of using a Mac third party application such as Window Shade, etc. from Unsanity...
Ditto. As much as I want to see how Leopard looks and feels like, I'd rather be surprised. I don't understand all the buzz around "making your deskop look like Leopard NOW". Wouldn't that spoil the fun?
Couldn't agree more. I'm on the last beta version, haven't gotten the new release yet, and I have Tiger installed on another drive on my Mac Pro. I only use Tiger now if I'm updating my iPhone, iPod or using iLife '08 for any projects. I really like Leopard, the UI outshines Tiger, but beyond that the system is hella fast and much slicker.
I do have one question, why did Apple get rid of the "Answering Machine" option in iChat 4.0? It's not in any of the recent builds. I really liked it, and was hoping it was a conduit to a possible iChat video conferencing capability with the iPhone (recording a video away message on iChat was AWESOME). I also kept wondering if it would be a lead in for using the computer as an "all-in-one" system, maybe allowing phone lines to be connected somehow to the system, and using iChat as a home answering device. People call, get your computer to answer lol. Sounds a bit much, but think about the possibility. Apple is leaning towards using the computer for digital home entertainment systems with AppleTV and iTunes, now the iPhone for communications, the next step, home interfacing
...The thing is: I know 9A500n in and out. I know it's shortcomings and where it's very good.
But I really disliked some things and hope they change.
I know Leopard is much faster than Tiger.
So what I'm really interested in are the changes from 9a500n to 9a527.