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I really hope the RC has fixed the bug I reported to them awhile back that has been present in the previous betas. I've been experiencing a bug that causes the save window to close in 3rd party apps like Adobe After Effects and Media Encoder if you use any of the arrow keys.

EDIT: I can confirm it is still present in the RC :confused:
I have been running all of the betas on four M1-based Macs since perhaps beta 2 and haven't seen this issue. I just tried to get your issue to occur on 13.0 Beta (22A5373b) from last week on an iMac M1 and all of the Save dialogs I tried worked fine with the arrow keys. Can you give the steps to reproduce? Perhaps it's an issue with something else on your system causing this issue to appear.
 
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Anyone else still have Safari leaking memory? At least once a once a week I have kill Safari....when it gets to 50-60GB and I run out of memory. Even as I write this, I'm at 18GB. Went up from 11GB after browsing this site for 10 minutes.
I have been running the Ventura betas on two iMac M1s, a MacBook Air M2, and a MacMini M1 and have not seen your issue of a "memory leak". On one of my iMacs, I have Safari running right now with 22 windows open with a combined 178 tabs. Ram use is stable at around 50%, and that includes all of my other apps running (average 8 apps at any one time). I have had most of those tabs open for weeks, have added some and removed some, but have not seen the issue you are reporting with "leaking memory". Do you perhaps have an extension running or some other software interacting with it? Look in Activity Monitor and see what process is sucking up the RAM. Do a search for "Safari" or "http" and see what you get to start off with. Let us know.
 
What's going wrong with it?
Any camera app like FaceTime reports that there is no camera available. Until Beta 8, the iPhone was immediately available as mic and camera. Attaching an external usb camera enables the continuity camera, detaching the usb camera, the iPhone disappears.
Hardware is Mac Studio Ultra
 
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Incredible. System Settings is still as bad as it was in Beta 1 and we're seeing a release candidate. Buggy and glitchy with bug-reports gone unanswered and unfixed. It's the most unusable and unpolished part of the new operating system at the moment.

There is also tons of missing functionality. To name one, you can no longer customize date, time and currency formats as you could since macOS 9.x through 10.x, 11 and 12. The new system settings app in Ventura gives you a drop down with three built-in options.

There's so much more broken in that app right now, I can't believe they're going to ship this.
 
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Incredible. System Settings…
There is also tons of missing functionality. To name one, you can no longer customize date, time and currency formats as you could since macOS 9.x through 10.x, 11 and 12. The new system settings app in Ventura gives you a drop down with three built-in options.

There's so much more broken in that app right now, I can't believe they're going to ship this.
I totally agree with this. Why some of these long-time settings like custom date and time formats have been removed baffles me. I would have thought that when Apple's programmers were coding the new Settings app, they would have at least added in existing Pref Pane functionality. Alas, it does not seem so. And despite many betas during which these shortcomings could have been rectified, they're still missing.
 
I have been running all of the betas on four M1-based Macs since perhaps beta 2 and haven't seen this issue. I just tried to get your issue to occur on 13.0 Beta (22A5373b) from last week on an iMac M1 and all of the Save dialogs I tried worked fine with the arrow keys. Can you give the steps to reproduce? Perhaps it's an issue with something else on your system causing this issue to appear.
It isn't happening in every app. But the ones that it keeps happening with for me are Adobe After Effects (2022 & 2023), Media Encoder, and Premiere Pro. It does not happen in Photoshop.

In After Effects (or any of the others listed), if I navigate to File>Save As a popup window will come up with the current file name highlighted. If I then press any one of the arrow keys, it causes the popup window to close without saving.
 
Any camera app like FaceTime reports that there is no camera available. Until Beta 8, the iPhone was immediately available as mic and camera. Attaching an external usb camera enables the continuity camera, detaching the usb camera, the iPhone disappears.
Hardware is Mac Studio Ultra

M1 Mac mini here and I jumped on at Beta 10 and my iPhone 14 Pro was immediately recognized and was totally impressed. Now with the RC when I opened up FaceTime it shows no camera detected. Tried turning off the automatic camera detection, that didn’t work. Tried turning Continuity Camera off and on the iPhone, no luck. Tried turning both Continuity Camera and Handoff off and back on, no dice. Restarted both devices, still no camera detected. Turned off wifi and Bluetooth, turned back on and still no camera detected.

Anyone find a fix?

Running 16.1 RC on the iPhone but I believe I was on 16.0.2 when Continuity Camera worked. Maybe 16.1 RC and Ventura RC don’t play nice?
 
2 questions:
  1. Has anyone tested Ventuta on a mac studio?
  2. I know it varies, but how much time does it usually pass for the .1 release?
I'm asking the latter as I have to do a format/cleanup of my work machine and there's no point going back to Monterey.
That said, I'm not hearing much praise for 13.0 RC...
 
I really hope the RC has fixed the bug I reported to them awhile back that has been present in the previous betas. I've been experiencing a bug that causes the save window to close in 3rd party apps like Adobe After Effects and Media Encoder if you use any of the arrow keys.

EDIT: I can confirm it is still present in the RC


Sounds like an Adobe problem
 
Now you can use your iPhone as a webcam, surely it would make sense to sell a webcam-less MacBook Air/Pro. Get rid of the notch and have a bigger screen. I've no use for a webcam what so ever and would choose to get rid of it - I don't even need Face ID to be there as my watch unlocks automatically.

But even if I ever did want to do a very very rare video call, I could surely just use the better quality camera in my iPhone.
 
Installed the public beta earlier.
System Settings still starts on Appearance rather than General. Also had a message thread in Messages duplicated yet again until after a restart.

And I still wish there was a nature wallpaper. Ventura's standard wallpaper is nicer than Monterey's but I still prefer the nature ones they had up until Big Sur.
 
2 questions:
  1. Has anyone tested Ventuta on a mac studio?
  2. I know it varies, but how much time does it usually pass for the .1 release?
I'm asking the latter as I have to do a format/cleanup of my work machine and there's no point going back to Monterey.
That said, I'm not hearing much praise for 13.0 RC...

I‘ve been using Ventura beta since the beginning On my Mac Studio.
Was the fist to report USB-C to HDMI issue. Had other issues like search function on MS Outlook not working, etc.

Most of the issues have been resolved.
 
M1 Mac mini here and I jumped on at Beta 10 and my iPhone 14 Pro was immediately recognized and was totally impressed. Now with the RC when I opened up FaceTime it shows no camera detected. Tried turning off the automatic camera detection, that didn’t work. Tried turning Continuity Camera off and on the iPhone, no luck. Tried turning both Continuity Camera and Handoff off and back on, no dice. Restarted both devices, still no camera detected. Turned off wifi and Bluetooth, turned back on and still no camera detected.

Anyone find a fix?

Running 16.1 RC on the iPhone but I believe I was on 16.0.2 when Continuity Camera worked. Maybe 16.1 RC and Ventura RC don’t play nice?
My iPhone is on 16.0.3, I tried as well all the steps above and nothing worked. The only way to have the iPhone as Continuity Camera is to attach 3rd party usb cam and then select the iPhone as mic and camera.
 
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I’ll have to try that but I hope that’s not a deliberate change. Seems like that doesn’t make sense for Mac minis. Good thing I have a spare camera thanks to the pandemic, but if one doesn’t seems dumb to have to buy a webcam to get it to work.
 
I’m curious if anyone has seen a recent software compatibility list for Ventura? I’m looking to see if some older versions of FileMaker will still run?
 
2 questions:
  1. Has anyone tested Ventuta on a mac studio?
  2. I know it varies, but how much time does it usually pass for the .1 release?
I'm asking the latter as I have to do a format/cleanup of my work machine and there's no point going back to Monterey.
That said, I'm not hearing much praise for 13.0 RC...
I am running it on a Mac Studio Ultra.
 
M1 Mac mini here and I jumped on at Beta 10 and my iPhone 14 Pro was immediately recognized and was totally impressed. Now with the RC when I opened up FaceTime it shows no camera detected. Tried turning off the automatic camera detection, that didn’t work. Tried turning Continuity Camera off and on the iPhone, no luck. Tried turning both Continuity Camera and Handoff off and back on, no dice. Restarted both devices, still no camera detected. Turned off wifi and Bluetooth, turned back on and still no camera detected.

Anyone find a fix?

Running 16.1 RC on the iPhone but I believe I was on 16.0.2 when Continuity Camera worked. Maybe 16.1 RC and Ventura RC don’t play nice?
The fix is very strange. When you attache an external usb camera then your iPhone will be available as continuity camera. Detaching the usb camera kills it again.
 
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Sounds like an Adobe problem
Could be. It does seem to be limited to certain Adobe apps but not all of them. Photoshop works correctly but After Effects, Media Encoder, and Premiere Pro experience the bug in both 2022 and 2023 versions. All I know is that it was never an issue for me until I installed the Ventura beta. Worked correctly for me in Big Sur and Monterey.
 
The fix is very strange. When you attache an external usb camera then your iPhone will be available as continuity camera. Detaching the usb camera kills it again.

Thanks for the info, I sent the information in Apple’s Feedback Assistant app. Hoping it’s a bug that gets fixed since I haven’t used a 3rd party webcam for months.
 
Could be. It does seem to be limited to certain Adobe apps but not all of them. Photoshop works correctly but After Effects, Media Encoder, and Premiere Pro experience the bug in both 2022 and 2023 versions. All I know is that it was never an issue for me until I installed the Ventura beta. Worked correctly for me in Big Sur and Monterey.
That would be because these apps support Big Sur and Monterey but not Ventura?
 
@horen you are right, attach a USB camera to the Mac mini and now it works but once you disconnect the 3rd party camera then Continuity Camera stops working. Did not have this behavior with beta 10.

Guess it's a good think I got a dock coming to connect and hide the camera until  fixes this nonsense. 🤦‍♂️

Updated my feedback submission to reflect this work around.
 
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On the Apple site for macOS Ventura features the fine print for Continuity Camera makes no mention of needing a 3rd party webcam connected to devices such as the Mac mini.

  1. Available on iPhone XR and later. Automatic camera switching occurs when iPhone is locked, in landscape orientation, stationary, and with the camera unobstructed.
I tested to see if it would work with the iPhone locked, but no change. Still need to connect a 3rd party webcam to get the functionality.
 
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