Apple Seeds macOS Catalina Beta 9 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

[DailySlow]

No way no how going to Catalina (never liked the place) staying with Mojave until late spring. Too much stuff (two shorts) in progress to mess anything up.
Good luck out there.
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did a clean install of DP9. the system I use for testing is a 2014 Mac mini equipped with an Apple PCIe SSD plus a generic SAMSUNG SATA SSD. TRIM on the SATA SSD was enabled right away without me issuing the trimforce command in the Terminal.

Thanks, this stuff is why I’ll wait. Have same box w/o SSD so live is sloooow 😁

 

[kissmo]

That may be the thing that keeps the Mac platform alive. For better or worse.

True... sad but true... aaaand now I am quoting Metallica

 

[scottjgo]

If you're looking to just click through the beta or test some software quickly, zeromac.com has the latest beta available to spin up a cloud VM.

 

[carlsson]

Why are you installing betas on your workmachine?

Because it’s the only way to properly test a beta.
You will *never* find all the glitches and quirks if you don’t *work* as normal on it.

/IMHO

 

[daveedjackson]

Beta Software is Beta.

yes, thank you for the clarification?! Because we don't know that? It is an observation, about the size of the BETA. It's a forum for people to discuss. So why criticise a comment!

 

[Eorlas]

4.99gb it bloody better fix FCP. Fancy apple releasing a new OS an not making FCP as a priority compatible.

The whole point is to test things, see that they're broken, and find ways to fix them, not prioritize software so that it works on a production machine. Quite literally anything that is important for production should not be running on a beta OS.

"Fancy apple releasing a new OS" this is unnecessarily condescending and shows that you're probably not the type of person who should be installing OS betas. They have not released anything, they've opened this for testing, which is always brought with the red tape of "don't use this on anything important to you."

Anyone who has the presence of mind to install a macOS dev beta should be running a separate partition for this purpose, or accept the consequences of running it on their daily driver. If they don't then they don't have any business running this.

/rant
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Because it’s the only way to properly test a beta.
You will *never* find all the glitches and quirks if you don’t *work* as normal on it.

/IMHO

A fair point, but then this should be running on a separate partition, with constant backups such that if a show-stopper is encountered, one can simply pickup the task on the stable release and get their work done.

 

[BWhaler]

Praying iTunes replacement aren’t as buggy as AppleTV app. Apple is punishing top customers by treating them as edge cases.

 

[Larsen2k4]

Public Beta 8 just arrived as well.

 

[TMRJIJ]

yes, thank you for the clarification?! Because we don't know that? It is an observation, about the size of the BETA. It's a forum for people to discuss. So why criticise a comment!

Geez... I was just being playful. Someone woke up with Kernal Panic today

 

[ScreenSavers]

Praying iTunes replacement aren’t as buggy as AppleTV app. Apple is punishing top customers by treating them as edge cases.

It's brutal. The Finder process for restoring an iOS device is awful. Not even a progress bar. Catalina has been a disaster on my 5K iMac. No brightness or volume control, music sync with iPods is busted, I have high hopes for beta 9, dowloading now.

 

[Shirasaki]

Praying iTunes replacement aren’t as buggy as AppleTV app. Apple is punishing top customers by treating them as edge cases.

Apple is always live testing their software products with guinea bigs like us.
I don’t want new music app completely destroying my iTunes music library.
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i finally get a 120GB external SSD to run Catalina on it. Without Apple ID, I think I dont Need to worry too much. Maybe I can update this one. Main OS for me is still high Sierra. sadly, I can no longer internet recovery to high Sierra, but only Mojave, which is a total disaster on my mac.

 

[CaTOAGU]

Public Beta is out now.

Never mind Larsen2k4 beat me to it.

 

[ScreenSavers]

Just installed... let's see if anything is fixed.

 

[Zdigital2015]

It is My opinion that what they are doing with Catalina Could be the death on the Mac as a business computer it all seems to be about Apple TV music etc. Read am article from a third party hardware manufacture advising customers NOT to upgrade to Catalina

macOS Catalina - UPDATED - More Brands Are Issuing Warnings About Not Upgrading - What Will You Do? | Production Expert

It has been noticeable that with the impending release of macOS Catalina that a number of audio brands have chosen to issue warnings to customers advising NOT to upgrade to macOS 10.15 Catalina. We have all the details. Also, we have the results of the poll where we asked: “When macOS Catalina 10.15

www.pro-tools-expert.com

That may be your opinion, but the fact is that these companies issued the same warnings about Mojave and have for every previous version of macOS that was poised to be released. The market they serve is usually cautious anyways, generally, as the applications are bread and butter of paying work for professionals. I have Catalina on my non-business use 2012 15" MacBook Pro and that's fine for the time being as I have ZERO plans to install Catalina on my production system until my vendor, Universal Audio, fully updates their software to be compatible with Catalina. Anyone who is surprised by the list referenced in the URL you provided simply isn't someone who uses these applications on a professional basis, probably more on a hobbyist basis. No sane professional whose business relies on these applications to feed their family and grow their business is installing Catalina on productions systems. They may not even be on Mojave or High Sierra, for that matter.

macOS Catalina is not going to be the death of the Mac as a business computer other than for those who have older 32-bit applications that need to be upgraded and a business decision is made not to upgrade to Catalina, not to upgrade the application or not to update because there is no update.

Bottom line, Catalina is still in BETA and anyone not expecting that there is the possibility of serious incompatibilities and possible data loss should simply not be running the beta, because they are failing to grasp the caveats and risks.

Catalina is a shift, but it is one that Apple has been telling developers was coming and what they needed to prepare for to serve their customers.

 

[BigBoy2018]

Upgrade come in at 4.99gb New full installer come out at 8.8GB build number = 19A573a Previous 19A558d which put this 15 Builds ahead of previous beta. And yes I had to take my shoes a socks of so I could work that out Needed 5 toes.

Incredible. And I thought the whole point of ditching 32-bit was to make the OS more streamlined.
And yet the very first 64-bit os is literally twice the size of tje previous os

 

[Zdigital2015]

Does Catalina have any support for rtx nvidia cards?

No...neither does Mojave. NVIDIA GPU is dead on macOS except for cards in supported Macs (i.e. Late 2013 iMac, 2012-2014 15" MacBook Pro.

 

[mmomega]

Praying iTunes replacement aren’t as buggy as AppleTV app. Apple is punishing top customers by treating them as edge cases.

Hold on... What?
Apple. Is punishing top customers?

Please explain how any person on the earth, that installed Catalina developer preview, is one a top customer. And two, a top customer. Three, being punished.

This explanation is going to be either trash or enlightening.
Hell I was just sitting here thinking that I had a choice to install Catalina, I didn't even know they forced it on me, after I was forced to pay for the option to be able to download it.

That top customer comment though is still got me stumped.
What makes one a top customer? Is this personal opinion or known fact by everyone?

 

[OVERTASK]

It is My opinion that what they are doing with Catalina Could be the death on the Mac as a business computer it all seems to be about Apple TV music etc. Read am article from a third party hardware manufacture advising customers NOT to upgrade to Catalina

macOS Catalina - UPDATED - More Brands Are Issuing Warnings About Not Upgrading - What Will You Do? | Production Expert

It has been noticeable that with the impending release of macOS Catalina that a number of audio brands have chosen to issue warnings to customers advising NOT to upgrade to macOS 10.15 Catalina. We have all the details. Also, we have the results of the poll where we asked: “When macOS Catalina 10.15

www.pro-tools-expert.com

Day one roll-out on a major OS update is just a bad idea in general, even for non critical machines

 

[hagjohn]

An .m4a file on the desktop now loads the cover art instead of the default icon. That is progress. I haven't noticed any issues, since updating. Messages, Music and TV all seem to open and function properly, at first glance. Will have to see how it holds. I haven't tried to boot via the eGPU yet. That is the biggest problem I had. I'll test that in the next few days.

 

[chrisdazzo]

This build seems to have fixed the major issue I've been having with the process "VTDecoderXPCService" using 90%+ CPU and literally freezing (not kernel panic, straight up freeze) my late 2015 iMac.

Phew!

 

[ScreenSavers]

This build seems to have fixed the major issue I've been having with the process "VTDecoderXPCService" using 90%+ CPU and literally freezing (not kernel panic, straight up freeze) my late 2015 iMac.

Phew!

Seems to have fixed my freezes and nonfunctional display brightness on the same machine.

 

[mdriftmeyer]

the beta notes have been the same for several releases.

 

[az431]

4.99gb it bloody better fix FCP. Fancy apple releasing a new OS an not making FCP as a priority compatible.

You do know that it's in beta right? Apple has not released anything.

 

[konqerror]

Because it’s the only way to properly test a beta.
You will *never* find all the glitches and quirks if you don’t *work* as normal on it.

/IMHO

If you have only one machine and are too dumb to install it on a separate partition or use a VM, then don't upgrade until the final release is out.

Nobody is forcing you to run the new OS on day 1.

This is arguably one reason why betas should be limited to developers, the only people who actually do need to get their apps running on day one.

 

[dogslobber]

It is My opinion that what they are doing with Catalina Could be the death on the Mac as a business computer it all seems to be about Apple TV music etc. Read am article from a third party hardware manufacture advising customers NOT to upgrade to Catalina

I read these as not to upgrade yet. The beta could break those products if you are critically dependent on them. Hence you shouldn't run a beta OS for your mission critical apps. Those apps will eventually support 10.15 or might not.