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Apple Seeds New Build of OS X Mavericks 10.9.1 Beta to Developers

I have been a dedicated Apple / Mac users for numerous years... all the way back to the Apple II Plus. I usually look forward to new products and updates. But, with Mavericks I find myself to be more frustrated than overjoyed. NOT that there are major problems. But, it has been a lackluster update FOR ME.

What has been bugging me the most is the memory management "improvements". Although many bloggers have raved about this feature, I find that my MB is no longer smooth when I'm juggling multiple applications (using 8GB RAM). It is as if everything gets a little clunky or overwhelmed. If anything, this is the opposite experience that I should be having. I do wish that this was resolved by Apple quickly. But, for some reason I sense that this issue isn't widespread. None the less, it is frustrating.
 
mrtravel123 said:
I have been a dedicated Apple / Mac users for numerous years... all the way back to the Apple II Plus. I usually look forward to new products and updates. But, with Mavericks I find myself to be more frustrated than overjoyed. NOT that there are major problems. But, it has been a lackluster update FOR ME.

What has been bugging me the most is the memory management "improvements". Although many bloggers have raved about this feature, I find that my MB is no longer smooth when I'm juggling multiple applications (using 8GB RAM). It is as if everything gets a little clunky or overwhelmed. If anything, this is the opposite experience that I should be having. I do wish that this was resolved by Apple quickly. But, for some reason I sense that this issue isn't widespread. None the less, it is frustrating.
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Definitely not a widespread issue. Memory Management is vastly improved in Mavericks. My 2011 MBP has a new lease of life!
 
Look apple.. Mavericks was great and all, but all i really want is to be able to use airdrop to plonk stuff from my iphone to my macbook via bluetooth, fast, simple and without an internet connection or wires... is that so much to ask for?
 
thewap said:
Safari borked, hangs up loading sites, Periodic comp freeze on start up, email is screwy - some accts lag in connecting, OS is slower, still waiting for the fix... :confused:
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Odd - many of us have no problems at all. I'm running 10.9 on three machines, all of them running like a top.
 
bbfc said:
Definitely not a widespread issue. Memory Management is vastly improved in Mavericks. My 2011 MBP has a new lease of life!
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Sadly, not the case with me. I just ran across this particular thread (see link below). Around 12 pages of people complaining about memory management.

I'm glad that yours is working so well!



https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5470580?start=15&tstart=0

EXAMPLE: "I have a 27-inch, Mid 2010 iMac with 3.2GHz Intel Core i3 and 8GB RAM installed. Since installing Mavericks the system has been laggy and unresponsive. I have never had slow responses in the 3 years I've owned this machine. Immediately on installing Mavericks the problems started. I am quite often near the limit of my installed RAM while having only a few applications running..."


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MAVERICKS ---------- > The worse OS for Mac that Apple has released in the last 4 years. Now we know why is free.
 
Tyler23 said:
Is this update not showing up in the App Store updates section for anyone else?
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It hasn't yet been released to the general public, rather, it's only available to developers who've installed the pre-release update utility.
 
chrfr said:
It hasn't yet been released to the general public, rather, it's only available to developers who've installed the pre-release update utility.
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I am aware, I am a developer and I already have 10.9.1 build 1 installed.

Just curious as to why it would not be showing up as a software update yet.

Edit:

I realized I had not downloaded the update Utility. However, when I try to download that, It's timing out after about 10 seconds.
 
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mrtravel123 said:
EXAMPLE: "... I am quite often near the limit of my installed RAM while having only a few applications running..."
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This person probably doesn't understand that the OS is using otherwise unused memory as a file cache. Unused memory is wasted memory. Notice that his photo says File Cache: 4.68GB and Swap Used: 0. Normal behavior and he has plenty of memory available for running more programs.
 
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FIX the HEATING UP problems

Fix the heating up problems, systems running 20 to 40 degrees hotter depending on the apple application that is open.

running non-apple apps, the system runs cooler.

:(
 
Tyler23 said:
Is this update not showing up in the App Store updates section for anyone else?
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If you have the mavericks seed configuration utility installed, but yet it is not showing up in the mac app store, you can download it from the direct link in apple developer forums with a web browser instead.

Don't post the link here though because that would be against macrumors rules.
 
Prof. said:
There is a lot more wrong with Mavericks than the bullet points listed above. I sure hope Apple fixes much much more than this. Since upgrading to OS X Mavericks, my 2012 MacBook Pro has become all but useless. It is so slow that it is basically a $2300 paperweight
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Did you upgrade or go down the clean install route?
 
dtelena said:
MAVERICKS ---------- > The worse OS for Mac that Apple has released in the last 4 years. Now we know why is free.
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No, that was undeniably Lion. I believe the slowness some are experiencing is related to something other than memory management.
 
Two finger left or right swipe to go back and forward crashes safari. I had to disable this in the menu. :(
 
Tyler23 said:
I am aware, I am a developer and I already have 10.9.1 build 1 installed.

Just curious as to why it would not be showing up as a software update yet.

Edit:

I realized I had not downloaded the update Utility. However, when I try to download that, It's timing out after about 10 seconds.
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How can you have 10.9.1 installed without the seed configuration utility ? That was required for 10.9.1 first beta.
 
nzalog said:
Wait...

So mountain lion server VPN works fine with multiple clients... meanwhile mavericks servers fails with a ton of different clients including mavericks. So instead of fixing the server side they are fixing the clients side?

What am I missing here??:confused:
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... that the release note says they are fixing the server side? The VPN functionality in Mavericks Server uses a bunch of functionality which is a part of the core Mavericks OS. So, that is where the fix for this needs to be.

I'm just hoping they also happened to fix the issue causing instability with Cisco VPN clients on Mavericks so I can connect to my work VPN and stay connected for more than five minutes.

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mrtravel123 said:
What has been bugging me the most is the memory management "improvements". Although many bloggers have raved about this feature, I find that my MB is no longer smooth when I'm juggling multiple applications (using 8GB RAM). It is as if everything gets a little clunky or overwhelmed. If anything, this is the opposite experience that I should be having. I do wish that this was resolved by Apple quickly. But, for some reason I sense that this issue isn't widespread. None the less, it is frustrating.
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I have the exact opposite experience. I have an 8GB 2009-era MacBook Pro. I do a lot of dev work (compiling, running Tomcat, etc), and am almost always maxing out that memory. Prior to Mavericks, I had to restart very often and judiciously kill Safari windows while Tomcat was running, etc, to keep from swapping. With Mavericks, swapping is very rare. Still happens, but not often, and when it does happen it is no worse than it was before.

So, for me, Mavericks is a great improvement for my "low" memory MacBook Pro. Now, if only the Cisco VPN we have for work was compatible with Mavericks I'd be really happy!
 
I just want them to fix the desktop bug where it takes forever to move files either to a different folder or deleting it. It's annoying having to wait for the files to move where you want them to...:mad:
 
External Hard Drives

Wow, what a disappointment. There is another thread here that shows severe problems with Mavericks and some external HDD , especially Western Digital and LaCie. Combine this with many of the above comments and it appears that Mavericks was not ready for prime time. This Apple fanatic is no longer telling friends to switch to Apple products. I have that old feeling of being on a Windows machine.
 
dtelena said:
Apple SHOULD fix the problems with the MacBook Pro Retina Displays 15 inch (2012 & 2013) where the machines freezes randomly after installing Mavericks. This is CRITICAL !!!
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I have rMBP '12 here and I haven't experienced any freezing issues at all.

Kobayagi said:
To fix in Safari:

- Double tab to zoom isn't as smooth as it was under ML, at least on some sites.
- Lots of sites keep hanging while being loaded, the blue bar starts going from left to right and stops halfway. This often happens on MacRumors Anyone else got this problem?
- Flash issues, my MacBook Air still lags on 1080p or even 720p youtube videos.

Im suer there is more, but that's what I can think of right now that really needs to be fixed.
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Weird, I haven't noticed any of those issues on Mavericks. Although, it is a clean install of Mavericks I've done.

mrtravel123 said:
I have been a dedicated Apple / Mac users for numerous years... all the way back to the Apple II Plus. I usually look forward to new products and updates. But, with Mavericks I find myself to be more frustrated than overjoyed. NOT that there are major problems. But, it has been a lackluster update FOR ME.

What has been bugging me the most is the memory management "improvements". Although many bloggers have raved about this feature, I find that my MB is no longer smooth when I'm juggling multiple applications (using 8GB RAM). It is as if everything gets a little clunky or overwhelmed. If anything, this is the opposite experience that I should be having. I do wish that this was resolved by Apple quickly. But, for some reason I sense that this issue isn't widespread. None the less, it is frustrating.
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It isn't widespread. If it was, you'd hear more about this than the Gmail issues.

I've been using Mavericks that ate up more than 16GB of ram with zero swapping and I haven't noticed any slowdowns at all.

My workflow is most likely different than yours and its sounds like there's something more specific to your workflow that's triggering the issue.

I'd suggest filing a bug report with Apple and attach a sysdiagnose file the next time you experience the issue.

dtelena said:
MAVERICKS ---------- > The worse OS for Mac that Apple has released in the last 4 years. Now we know why is free.
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Have you tried a clean install of Mavericks?

I consider Mavericks the best OS release since one of the later updates of Snow Leopard.

I've chatted with many friends and co-workers about this and they shared the same thoughts.

SteveJobs2.0 said:
Two finger left or right swipe to go back and forward crashes safari. I had to disable this in the menu. :(
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No crashes here. Got any leftover plugins from previous OS installs that could be getting in the way?

BobK said:
Wow, what a disappointment. There is another thread here that shows severe problems with Mavericks and some external HDD , especially Western Digital and LaCie. Combine this with many of the above comments and it appears that Mavericks was not ready for prime time. This Apple fanatic is no longer telling friends to switch to Apple products. I have that old feeling of being on a Windows machine.
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Didn't WD announce that there's a major problem with their WD software for the external drives?

I'm using WD external drives and while I've never used their annoying Smartware software, I haven't experienced any issues with Mavericks.
 
Finally fixed the buggered iCloud Calendars and Reminders apps from being turned on, requiring some to delete all references to these apps in their ~/Library/ folders, then adding the iCloud account into each app individually. I previously did this and it worked, however it suddenly decided it didn't want to and checking them in System Preferences didn't do anything.

Now, works perfectly.

On that note, iCloud full document syncing! (please) :)
 
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