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Just tell me why selecting shutdown takes twenty or more minutes on mavericks on a Corei7 machine. It just sits there and does NOTHING with a gray screen and a mouse pointer. I get impatient and just forcibly shut the darned thing off. Irritating.

go back to SL days.

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Look apple.. Mavericks was great and all, but all i really want is to be able to use airdrop to plonk stuff from my iphone to my macbook via bluetooth, fast, simple and without an internet connection or wires... is that so much to ask for?

yes, it's too much to ask for.
 
Hopefully this update fixes the sleep issues I've been having. Anyone else's MBP taking forever to go into sleep mode since installing Mavericks?
 
Apple SHOULD fix the problems with the MacBook Pro Retina Displays 15 inch (2012 & 2013) where the machines freezes randomly after installing Mavericks. This is CRITICAL !!!

I'm with MikHail on this. I've got a pair of 2012 rMBPs and neither has ANY issues. However, I just did a direct update. Not a 'from scratch'. On both units. They're both flying....and shutting down has speeded up to less than three seconds since Maverick update. I've never had either freeze, crash or slow down in any fashion
Workflow includes Smoke, Premier, After Effects, photoshop InDesign and Encore. FCP 7 and FCPx are still in the tool bag as are Comoressor and Motion. We also use Serato and Traktor...as well as all the usual surfing with Safari and Chrome, Spotify, Mail...and about a dozen different audio programs including Logic, Audition, ProTools with a LOT of plug ins.
I'm still blown away by the performance of these rMBPs. After 30 years of buying computers, I've found my personal favorite... Of ALL Time!
...and to us, Mavericks just made it 'that much better'

To fix in Safari:

- Double tab to zoom isn't as smooth as it was under ML, at least on some sites.
- Lots of sites keep hanging while being loaded, the blue bar starts going from left to right and stops halfway. This often happens on MacRumors Anyone else got this problem?
- Flash issues, my MacBook Air still lags on 1080p or even 720p youtube videos.

Im suer there is more, but that's what I can think of right now that really needs to be fixed.

What year is your MBA? I've got none of these issues on a 2010 Air or 2012 Air. Again, same as our rMBPs, I've noticed faster start up and shut down times, better memory management with less swapping and quick manipulation with gestures, spaces, mission control and launch pad.

I visit some ugly sites...but it seems many have been improving their code lately with HiRez displays on the market....TechCrunch, ArsTechnica...even Facebook seem much more 'quick' on Safari...on both the rMBP and MBAs. Perhaps you've got another issue. Have you updated Flash? Aren't there options other than Flash to see what you wanna see?

Too hung up on fixing Gmail.....Want Gmail get the beta of Mail Pilot a great new mail cliient.
Stop fixing Gmail.

Fix those freaking beachballs .........

Mavericks......Go figure.

Slide

No beach balls here. Gmail works fine. What issues are you having with it? I've got an iCloud acct, gmail acct and an account the out my local ISP. They're all acting fine. What is the Gmail account 'problem'? Where are you experiencing beach balls? What are you doing when you get 'em? What model of Mac are you using Mavericks on?

Sure about this? You know how to fix it? I am desperate about this. Thanks.

So far for me Mavericks sucks !!!

Are you close to an Apple Store? I concur, there's something else going on. It's not a memory issue. Not a Mavericks issue. Mavericks, IMHO is the MOST stable .00 update to an OS in the history I've worked with OSx and Windows (since 3.1, pre Windows '95!). Mavericks is excellent. I've not noticed the 'quick look' problem with RAW shots though. We shoot both the 5dmk2 and 3s. I'm curious as to which RAW shots the poster mentioned are broken? Or is it RAW regardless? I'm usually uploading direct to Aperture or Bridge/Lightroom so I haven't looked at a RAW shot from the finder (direct from the CF card)


Just tell me why selecting shutdown takes twenty or more minutes on mavericks on a Corei7 machine. It just sits there and does NOTHING with a gray screen and a mouse pointer. I get impatient and just forcibly shut the darned thing off. Irritating.

Again, something's wrong. I've got a pair of core i7 rMBPs. A core i7 2013 Air and three core i7 2011 and 12 iMacs (we run a business with our Macs). None are taking 'longer' to shut down than ML, ALL are shutting down quicker. Earlier I mentioned our rMBPs have gone from 8-14 seconds to shut down to 2-3 seconds. Our iMacs, still using HDDs take 15-25 seconds to shut down. The MBA core i7 has also shaved half it's time...from 12-14 seconds to 5-7.
I've never had to force shut down any of our 11 total machines that we are running Mavs on. From a 2010 core2duo Air to a 2010 MacPro and other iMacs (i5) not mentioned above.

There is a lot more wrong with Mavericks than the bullet points listed above. I sure hope Apple fixes much much more than this. Since upgrading to OS X Mavericks, my 2012 MacBook Pro has become all but useless. It is so slow that it is basically a $2300 paperweight

Can't say this enough. Something is wrong. If this were the case the 'net, the forum, the general press and media would be up in arms. Something is goofy on your machine. It's not Mavericks

I have been a dedicated Apple / Mac users for numerous years... all the way back to the Apple II Plus. I usually look forward to new products and updates. But, with Mavericks I find myself to be more frustrated than overjoyed. NOT that there are major problems. But, it has been a lackluster update FOR ME.

What has been bugging me the most is the memory management "improvements". Although many bloggers have raved about this feature, I find that my MB is no longer smooth when I'm juggling multiple applications (using 8GB RAM). It is as if everything gets a little clunky or overwhelmed. If anything, this is the opposite experience that I should be having. I do wish that this was resolved by Apple quickly. But, for some reason I sense that this issue isn't widespread. None the less, it is frustrating.

Mavericks memory management is extremely efficient and well thought out with its compression and integration with the OS. What computer and software are you using specifically causing these slow downs? Can't imagine a 2012 machine being 'ruined' by an OS update. Especially while I'm seeing valid improvements to almost four year old machines.

It does seem like some of these posters with issues are 'new' to the community :confused:


MAVERICKS ---------- > The worse OS for Mac that Apple has released in the last 4 years. Now we know why is free.

Completely false. The opposite. Easily the best release since latter SnowLeopard point updates for stability. For everything else, including gesture support and integration with the iCloud, iPad, iPhone and every other Mac you own....it's light years ahead of any other OS on the market. Including older OSx releases

Two finger left or right swipe to go back and forward crashes safari. I had to disable this in the menu. :(

Works great on all of our machines that accept gestures on the trackpad. Just tried it on two iMacs with the Magic Trackpad, my rMBP and both my wife and I's Airs. No such issue. It works smooth as silk. Even in the 2010 1.6GHz MBA with 4GB of RAM (lowest spec'ed machine tested)

I have rMBP '12 here and I haven't experienced any freezing issues at all.



Weird, I haven't noticed any of those issues on Mavericks. Although, it is a clean install of Mavericks I've done.



It isn't widespread. If it was, you'd hear more about this than the Gmail issues.

I've been using Mavericks that ate up more than 16GB of ram with zero swapping and I haven't noticed any slowdowns at all.

My workflow is most likely different than yours and its sounds like there's something more specific to your workflow that's triggering the issue.

I'd suggest filing a bug report with Apple and attach a sysdiagnose file the next time you experience the issue.



Have you tried a clean install of Mavericks?

I consider Mavericks the best OS release since one of the later updates of Snow Leopard.

I've chatted with many friends and co-workers about this and they shared the same thoughts.



No crashes here. Got any leftover plugins from previous OS installs that could be getting in the way?



Didn't WD announce that there's a major problem with their WD software for the external drives?

I'm using WD external drives and while I've never used their annoying Smartware software, I haven't experienced any issues with Mavericks.

Again, MikHailT nailed it. I'm experiencing the same. I also use Western Digital drives and they work fine as long as you don't use their silly software. I've never done that nor installed it. I've always immediately formatted new externals to Mac OSx journaled and wiped 'em clean. Perhaps that's why I'm not seeing any problems.

Good luck all. Bored watching the football game and thought I'd share my experiences with Mavericks. To me, it's an exceptionally stable and efficient OS upgrade. There will always be little bugs to squish, but that's cool. Apple's about the best at squishing them often and across everyone's system. It's still essentially an X.01 release. Give it a month, two, six....it's a win, I'd call it a grand slam!!!

J
 
anyone notice a fix with audio interfaces stuttering/clicking/dropping out with the fusion drive iMacs
 
Safari is still much slower than Chrome. Unfortunately I value the free service of iCloud keychain and its convenience, thus, I am now using safari. If their both based off webkit, why is Safari so much slower than Chrome?

Other than that, I haven't come across anything too major, but that doesn't mean there isn't.
 
safari might be great but it is lacking in 3rd party support. Adblock now doesn't block a lot of stuff including the dreaded youtube video ads which is a huge deal breaker. Have to stick to Chrome until Safari actually counts among 3rd parties.
 
Late 2008 (8GB), 2010 MBP (4GB), early 2013 rMBP (16GB) all working very, very well. Straight upgrades (no new installs). For me, the best upgrade experience I've had in quite some time. Worst was Lion for me.

Shut down times have decreased significantly to a couple of seconds, 3-ish on the 2008. Photoshop, Aperture, DxO, Capture One, Xcode, various Java IDEs, Logic, FCP X all work very well (for what I do). Multiple monitors. Video watching of varying kinds working well. A few odd glitches with some of my Aperture/Photoshop plugins. Email (gmail (1 business, 1 personal), ISP, iCloud) working well so far. Quick look lags somewhat, but at the moment it is only a minor annoyance.

Memory management has been outstanding, power management working well.

Overall a pretty positive experience.
 
As a satisfied Mavericks user, my body is ready for this to be released publicly.
 
Just tell me why selecting shutdown takes twenty or more minutes on mavericks on a Corei7 machine. It just sits there and does NOTHING with a gray screen and a mouse pointer. I get impatient and just forcibly shut the darned thing off. Irritating.

You have unresponsive services that the kernel is waiting on indefinitely before it safely shuts down.

Read your System.log from your System Profiler to determine what services are not playing well with Mavericks.
 
heating up

have you heard about a heating up issue? do you know what's to be done with it, with that? I'm experiencing a large increase in the heat that MBP runs at immediately following the install; hasn't settled down, especially if I use an apple application like the iBooks, Safari, etc.
 
Wow, what a disappointment. There is another thread here that shows severe problems with Mavericks and some external HDD , especially Western Digital and LaCie. Combine this with many of the above comments and it appears that Mavericks was not ready for prime time. This Apple fanatic is no longer telling friends to switch to Apple products. I have that old feeling of being on a Windows machine.

Amen to that. It's mind boggling how such a basic feature like using an external USB drive can become such a massive f*$@ up. I've had 3 Seagate drives and a WD fail. It's 100% a software issue as I have a clean install of Mavericks and never installed any of the vendor tools that came with the drives. Apple should be ashamed, but it's pretty evident their focus is purely on the iPhone/iPad segment of their business.
 
Showing In my App Store, downloading now.

Yup, it works but to answer the other commentators; you need to download the "Mavericks Seed Configuration Utility" from your OS X developer account, run it, then check the MAS for updates.
 
Mavericks Networking = No Bueno

Networking is still borked in Mavericks. Half the time I can't connect via Remote Desktop to my Mac Pro from my Macbook Air as I used to be able to with no problem. I also tried switching "Remote Management" for "Screen Sharing" in System Preferences and it makes no difference.

Only after I reboot one of the machines can I remote in from the MBA to the Mac Pro.

Funny though, if I re-boot the Mac Pro to its Snow Leopard disk I have absolutely NO ISSUES. I can sleep either machine for an extended period of time and can still remote in. Something is very VERY wrong in the networking stack for Mavericks. Reeks of betaware.... :mad:

(**This is all on the same network, same subnet. The only variable is the boot disk. Mavericks SSD or Snow Leopard SSD.**)
 
Are people having the same Quick Look problem as me? Virtually every image is slow to open in QL, whether it's in the finder or when previewing with the space bar.
 
Are people having the same Quick Look problem as me? Virtually every image is slow to open in QL, whether it's in the finder or when previewing with the space bar.

Gosh I hate 10.9 for that... I am using the quick look feature like 10000x each day .. thinking about installing 10.8.6 again. Please tell me that 10.9.1 (new build) solves this
 
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