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In my experience I'd say the exact opposite. In general any .0 or .1 release is going to have more bugs than any .5 or .8 release. With any major software release, OS or otherwise, if you are sensitive to bugs you should always wait until it hits .3 or even higher.



This comment shows up with every Apple release that has release notes listing some fixes. Apple probably has thousands of bugs in their database. An update can potentially fix dozens of bugs, so they're not going to list all of them, particularly over the course of multiple seeded betas. In virtually every case, point updates fix more than what is listed in the release notes.

But I doubt the build number indicates so… In Snow Leopard, the build numbers of each maintenance updates go by hundreds. Lion onwards, the numbers are so tiny, probably 1/10 of SL...
 
safari might be great but it is lacking in 3rd party support. Adblock now doesn't block a lot of stuff including the dreaded youtube video ads which is a huge deal breaker. Have to stick to Chrome until Safari actually counts among 3rd parties.
Using AdBlock I haven't seen any Youtube ads in years using Safari. :)
 
In Snow Leopard, the build numbers of each maintenance updates go by hundreds. Lion onwards, the numbers are so tiny, probably 1/10 of SL...

That's just because they changed their numbering system. The number has always been the number of workdays. But with 10.6 the x.x.1 build continued with the same numbering (in the 500s) while 10.7 on restarted numbering with each minor release. The process of development didn't change at all, they just count the numbers in a different way. And the numbering of builds has exactly zero to do with the number of bugs fixed in each release.

What a lame comment. This is only the second beta. Chances are the final release will fix a lot more bugs.

Exactly, plus there are always many more bugs fixed than what Apple lists in release notes, as pointed out repeatedly in this thread.
 
In addition to the issue others have noted regarding external drives not sleeping, I've noticed that the dock on multiple monitors is slow to appear (at times not at all) on the opposite screen as 'requested'. Anyone else have this problem?:confused:
 
What problems are you having with Exchange? You ask that question as if EVERYONE who uses a Mac with Mavericks installed has problems with Exchange.

Judging by the views, 15000+ people at least are having problems with exchange and mavericks I would say:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5470507

Mail to exchange seems to work fine over IMAP but try it over EWS and it will not update. Yes, I submitted a bug report weeks ago, dealt with an engineer, uploaded log files and was full of optimism. Then my bug report was closed - marked as a duplicate of another open bug. Trouble is that Apple then does not allow you to view the related bug or monitor progress so nobody has any idea if any progress is being made on this.
 
Normally.....

What's happening here is that your Mac is shutting down a lot of background processes. Forcibly shutting down will cause more problems. I never actually shut my systems down. I simply close my MacBook Pro when it's not in use. My Mac mini uses such an insignificant amount of power, I'm not concerned about it being on 24/7. It seems like the best solution here is to stop shutting your system down so often that the wait is annoying.

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It shouldn't take 20 minutes to shut down a system with nothing but the base operating system running especially with a Corei7 processor and 16 gigs of ram.

Normally I wouldn't shut the thing down - we're recording voiceovers in a vocal booth a short distance away from the mic and the sensitive condenser mics we use pick up the iMac's fan easily and sleeping the Mac makes no difference as the fans still spin.

This mic also can pick up a clock ticking two rooms over, these are stupid sensitive pro level condenser mics.
 
There is a lot more wrong with Mavericks than the bullet points listed above. I sure hope Apple fixes much much more than this. Since upgrading to OS X Mavericks, my 2012 MacBook Pro has become all but useless. It is so slow that it is basically a $2300 paperweight

Yeah, as much as I'd like to be enjoying the nifty new features of Mavericks, the constant crashing and GUI corruption issue is making life really hard.

Hopefully it will be fixed in the next beta.
 
What problems are you having with Exchange? You ask that question as if EVERYONE who uses a Mac with Mavericks installed has problems with Exchange.

A number of problems

- Inbox not updating
- Folders not updating
- Mail Freezing
- New email received, preview window does not display anything
 
I, and many others, are seriously hoping we get back some decent finder/folder functionality.
Removing the 'open in new window' option & replacing it with a tabbed option?
Really?
My desktop is not a web-browser or iOS device. Please stop trying to make it act like one Apple.
 
Lets hope Apple fixes the ghost wallpaper issue. Try as I might, I can't convince Apple, and they gotta 'play by the book' by asking the customer to visit an Store.

:rolleyes:

Bring 10.9.1 on :)
 
I think we all perfectly know that, when a new version of osx is released, it can be considered as a beta, at least 4 months after official release...
 
I hope this comes out fast. My Mac is blazing fast, but my girlfriend's 2012 13" MBP is actually slower than mine, and she uses it for basic web stuff, while I use mine as more of a work machine.
 
They should also fix the space preview for photos issue with Mavericks... It's a lot slower than the previous gens of the Mac OS.
 
3rd party apps

Any Mavericks problems I've seen were 3rd party related, where applications weren't fully Mavericks compatible on time for the release. Some of them have now been fixed, others are slower and not fixed yet.

I can live with those issues and don't blame Apple for it. Either wait with upgrading to Mavericks until all apps are fully compatible or live with the problems until the 3rd party apps have been updated or stop using them (e.g. I switched from VirtualBox to VMware Fusion).
 
Mavericks impressive OS

I have rMBP '12 here and I haven't experienced any freezing issues at all.



Weird, I haven't noticed any of those issues on Mavericks. Although, it is a clean install of Mavericks I've done.



It isn't widespread. If it was, you'd hear more about this than the Gmail issues.

I've been using Mavericks that ate up more than 16GB of ram with zero swapping and I haven't noticed any slowdowns at all.

My workflow is most likely different than yours and its sounds like there's something more specific to your workflow that's triggering the issue.

I'd suggest filing a bug report with Apple and attach a sysdiagnose file the next time you experience the issue.



Have you tried a clean install of Mavericks?

I consider Mavericks the best OS release since one of the later updates of Snow Leopard.

I've chatted with many friends and co-workers about this and they shared the same thoughts.



No crashes here. Got any leftover plugins from previous OS installs that could be getting in the way?



Didn't WD announce that there's a major problem with their WD software for the external drives?

I'm using WD external drives and while I've never used their annoying Smartware software, I haven't experienced any issues with Mavericks.

Fully agree......... Mavericks is the first OS that is as good or better, in many respects, then Snow Leopard. I also have not experienced any problems. A clean install is a little extra work but yields the best results.......................Though, I miss the RAM pie chart display for the Activity Monitor.
 
Fully agree......... Mavericks is the first OS that is as good or better, in many respects, then Snow Leopard. I also have not experienced any problems. A clean install is a little extra work but yields the best results.......................Though, I miss the RAM pie chart display for the Activity Monitor.

I can't believe someone else misses that chart! Very good sir.
 
Does anyone know, how long these build usually stay in beta before they are released to the general public?
 
Fully agree......... Mavericks is the first OS that is as good or better, in many respects, then Snow Leopard. I also have not experienced any problems. A clean install is a little extra work but yields the best results.......................Though, I miss the RAM pie chart display for the Activity Monitor.

No-one ever says Mountain Lion...

If you compare it to two generations ago OS, then yes

Does anyone know, how long these build usually stay in beta before they are released to the general public?

My guess would be for as long as Apple are happy with it.. There could be 2 betas, there could be 7 betas, I would say 4.
 
Mavericks = crap!

Osx 10.9 (mavericks) is definitely the biggest crap after windows 95. Apple need ASAP to complete and post the upgrade. Dozens of problems, Finder, Desktop, magic mouse, Illustrator crashes.. etc. WTF?

***Be careful!! - Don't upgrade to Mavericks before a serious upgrade released.***
 
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