Apple Seeds OS X 10.7.3 Build 11D24 to Developers

[Tonewheel]

My observations, which should carry some weight given that I've installed both 10.7.3 betas on two very different machines, have seen identical improvements: a Mac Pro 2007 and a late 2011 MBPro.

The first 10.7.3b1 actually created problems for both machines. They became buggy in general with numerous, random beach balls and slow behavior for all applications, but in particular Mail and Safari. It was so bad that I stopped using Safari altogether. Now, with 10.7.3 b2, every single performance issue is gone, and with my experience on both machines, they've actually gained speed...and yes, "snappy" is applicable! More so than 10.7.2.

Truly, I am amazed at the overall speed and stability between the first and second betas. I notice no new features whatsoever in b2; this seems to be a completely under-the-hood update. With the full update weighing in at 1.13GB and the delta at 759MB, there are apparently lots that they've tweaked.

 

[flowsy]

Thanks for the update Tonewheel!

 

[ObeseSquirrel]

So a naming issues is why OS sucks? "Save As" or "Export" it does the same thing as it is the same menu just named differently.

So much unnecessary angst could have been saved if Apple would just assign ⇧⌘S to "Export," and then change the File menu so that "Export" is directly below "Save" (and above "Duplicate"). That way, people would know what it is.

"Export" is actually a much better name than "Save As" anyway, when you think about it.

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And thanks for the update, Tonewheel. Especially hope memory management improves! 10.7.2 was already a very good step in the right direction.

 

[vea1083]

My observations, which should carry some weight given that I've installed both 10.7.3 betas on two very different machines, have seen identical improvements: a Mac Pro 2007 and a late 2011 MBPro.

The first 10.7.3b1 actually created problems for both machines. They became buggy in general with numerous, random beach balls and slow behavior for all applications, but in particular Mail and Safari. It was so bad that I stopped using Safari altogether. Now, with 10.7.3 b2, every single performance issue is gone, and with my experience on both machines, they've actually gained speed...and yes, "snappy" is applicable! More so than 10.7.2.

Truly, I am amazed at the overall speed and stability between the first and second betas. I notice no new features whatsoever in b2; this seems to be a completely under-the-hood update. With the full update weighing in at 1.13GB and the delta at 759MB, there are apparently lots that they've tweaked.

I was wondering if 10.7.3 reduces the start up times for Lion. Before in SL I would boot into my desktop in about 22 seconds, in Lion (10.7.2) now it takes anywhere from 27-35 seconds. Any improvement in that area compared to 10.7.2?

 

[TwoBytes]

I hope 10.7.3 fixes the graphic freezes my iMac has with the nvida card

any graphic fixes in this build?

Machine locks up, freezes, crashes like a windows machine..

 

[Vincent Freeman]

That's why i like ATI cards in iMacs - no issues at all with any ATI card in any iMac i had or have.

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I was wondering if 10.7.3 reduces the start up times for Lion. Before in SL I would boot into my desktop in about 22 seconds, in Lion (10.7.2) now it takes anywhere from 27-35 seconds. Any improvement in that area compared to 10.7.2?

Boot time is pretty much the same. You can try this:

sudo chown root:admin /
sudo kextcache -system-prelinked-kernel
sudo kextcache -system-caches

It can shave 3-6 seconds from the boot time. If you have USB or FireWire devices attached that also slows boot quite a bit ~4 seconds for my Mac.

 

[cicuz]

So much unnecessary angst could have been saved if Apple would just assign ⇧⌘S to "Export," and then change the File menu so that "Export" is directly below "Save" (and above "Duplicate"). That way, people would know what it is.

"Export" is actually a much better name than "Save As" anyway, when you think about it.

Export is so completely different from Save As that this post is a waste of time.
Duplicate is close, but I'm back on SL so I don't really know how annoying it actually is.

 

[HalfBlazed]

Lions is great...

I don't understand how people could possibly say Lion sucks...As a graphic design student, being able to load Photoshop, Illustrator, Bridge, Safari and Pages on separate desktops and easily glide between them with a swipe of my fingers is something I cannot image living without. Trying going back to Windows with its amazing ALT+Tab feature. ::Sarcasm:: Also, Launchpad is fine, people act like they replaced the App folder or something, if you don't like it, don't use it, is it really that hard to figure out? It may take a little more time to put Apps in folders but I'd much rather have them in folders than have 50-60 in alphabetical order in the App folder to try and navigate through. I'll admit that Lion was a little shaky before 10.7.2 but since then, for me at least, its been solid as a rock. I do wish that their was some way to set the "Reopen windows when logging back in" to always unchecked, something I'm sure they will do. Overall, I honestly think that Lion is the best, most intuitive O.S. available.

Original iPad 64GB ::: (early) 2011 MacBook Pro 2.2Ghz 8GB DDR3 :::

 

[Nameci]

I have started to like lion... I have removed the Applications folder in the dock. Just to remove the clutter.

For drag and drop apps I let them stay on the dock other wise they are on launchpad...

 

[drossad]

Thunderbolt, Safari, Launchpad

How about they fix the problem with the thunderbolt port not waking the primary and a secondary display from sleep correctly. It continually is screwing up all my app windows (sizes and position) as well as sometimes waking with my secondary screen having a completely grey background. Sometimes when I unplug the secondary screen my primary MBP screen goes blue and never recovers. I have to then manually reboot.
I have had to change my settings so my computer never goes to sleep while a secondary screen is connected.
Never had this problem in Leopard or snow leopard, or with my old MBPs DVI input.
(yes, my computer's OS is fully up to date)

Safari stinks so bad I have had to sadly move to chrome.
(also fully up to date)

Opening an app from within the new launchpad is painfully slow and does not respond the way it should.

Lastly, setting a background for one monitor does not carry over into all spaces. What's with that?

 

[Vincent Freeman]

Safari stinks so bad I have had to sadly move to chrome.
(also fully up to date)

Opening an app from within the new launchpad is painfully slow and does not respond the way it should.

Lastly, setting a background for one monitor does not carry over into all spaces. What's with that?

No problems with Safari. Launchpad is fast and responsive and about backgrounds ... well that's how they think it should work, but either way there will be people not happy about it. The only way is to introduce more options such as "Change background for all spaces"

 

[Bobajobbob]

My observations, which should carry some weight given that I've installed both 10.7.3 betas on two very different machines, have seen identical improvements: a Mac Pro 2007 and a late 2011 MBPro.

The first 10.7.3b1 actually created problems for both machines. They became buggy in general with numerous, random beach balls and slow behavior for all applications, but in particular Mail and Safari. It was so bad that I stopped using Safari altogether. Now, with 10.7.3 b2, every single performance issue is gone, and with my experience on both machines, they've actually gained speed...and yes, "snappy" is applicable! More so than 10.7.2.

Truly, I am amazed at the overall speed and stability between the first and second betas. I notice no new features whatsoever in b2; this seems to be a completely under-the-hood update. With the full update weighing in at 1.13GB and the delta at 759MB, there are apparently lots that they've tweaked.

I agree with this. The previous beta was a shocka. This one appears to be an improvement however I am still experiencing way too many beach balls and general system sluggishness. Mail is very slow and unreliable and iPhoto was bogging down this evening also. Maybe I need to reinstall Lion from scratch , something I've never needed to do with OSX before, because I would agree with some of the posters here that Lion is not the most polished of releases.

 

[Abazigal]

Truly, I am amazed at the overall speed and stability between the first and second betas. I notice no new features whatsoever in b2; this seems to be a completely under-the-hood update. With the full update weighing in at 1.13GB and the delta at 759MB, there are apparently lots that they've tweaked.

Fwaah! That's practically a redesign of Lion! Thank god for my 10 mbs connection.

 

[McKs]

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Fwaah! That's practically a redesign of Lion! Thank god for my 10 mbs connection.

I know I might run the risk of sounding arrogant, and it's entirely off topic, but I'm genuinely intrigued; where is 10mbs still something special? The slowest connection I can buy from my provider here in Holland is 25Mb (http://www.upc.nl/internet/)

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I know I might run the risk of sounding arrogant, and it's entirely off topic, but I'm genuinely intrigued; where is 10mbs still something special? The slowest connection I can buy from my provider here in Holland is 25Mb (http://www.upc.nl/internet/)

America isn't a compact little unit like Europe.

 

[Abazigal]

I know I might run the risk of sounding arrogant, and it's entirely off topic, but I'm genuinely intrigued; where is 10mbs still something special? The slowest connection I can buy from my provider here in Holland is 25Mb (http://www.upc.nl/internet/)

Here in Singapore sadly, where for me, 10mbs is the best compromise between reasonable internet speed and affordability. And that is just the best case scenario speed, actual speed averages much less.

We are trying to move on to optic fiber, but the implementation is slow like molasses, and I suspect the speed will still be bottlenecked when it comes to loading overseas websites anyways.

http://info.singtel.com/personal/communication/internet/broadband-at-home

It's just enough to let me stream high res videos on youtube while downloading other stuff, and I am not that speed sensitive that I must have a 4gb file finish downloading in minutes, so I am not complaining. Not yet at least.

 

[johnhw]

Fwaah! That's practically a redesign of Lion! Thank god for my 10 mbs connection.

Well, if it's a huge file size update, they obviously did a lot of tweaks to the OS.

 

[MrNomNoms]

My observations, which should carry some weight given that I've installed both 10.7.3 betas on two very different machines, have seen identical improvements: a Mac Pro 2007 and a late 2011 MBPro.

The first 10.7.3b1 actually created problems for both machines. They became buggy in general with numerous, random beach balls and slow behavior for all applications, but in particular Mail and Safari. It was so bad that I stopped using Safari altogether. Now, with 10.7.3 b2, every single performance issue is gone, and with my experience on both machines, they've actually gained speed...and yes, "snappy" is applicable! More so than 10.7.2.

Truly, I am amazed at the overall speed and stability between the first and second betas. I notice no new features whatsoever in b2; this seems to be a completely under-the-hood update. With the full update weighing in at 1.13GB and the delta at 759MB, there are apparently lots that they've tweaked.

I'm wondering to what extent with the move to LLVM/Clang with the improved debugging that maybe what we're seeing is the investment they've made delivering the kinds of information that programmers need to fix bugs quickly and accurately. It will be interesting to see the kinds of improvements as ideas such as ARC are implemented within the various Mac OS X components and whether as a consequence one sees improvements in areas that are memory related for example.

Oh well, looking forward to 10.7.3 to appear

 

[PurrBall]

Gotta admit, the mouse cursor changes are weirding me out a little bit.

 

[adder7712]

Are the networking issues resolved?

My Ethernet conneciton drops in a pulsating manner at times.

 

[Snowcat001]

How about fixing the wi-fi issues!!!!!!!!
I'm going nuts

 

[Snowcat001]

Please let this fix WiFi issues.

Yes please!

 

[russell2]

Full Screen Apps and Launchpad (though I don't like it but its easier to access) are deal breakers for me not to go back to Snow Leopard but my computer has been oddly more glitchy since upgrading to Lion (Mid 2010 Macbook Pro) hopefully this update just fixes some glitches and makes my computer run better.

 

[Snowcat001]

Please let this fix WiFi issues. And this 16GB of 'other' I can't seem to find anywhere on my Hard Drive.

I've got +150GB of 'other' but that's my Aperture library, for some reason it's not included in 'photos'.

 

[KnightWRX]

I actually had to reboot the other day because some system process was taking up 100% CPU.

Why not just kill the offending process ? Or if you absolutely need a GUI tool, why not just Force Quit using the Force Quit option in the Apple menu ?