Apple Seeds OS X 10.7.3 Build 11D24 to Developers

[cjfbio2]

It is actually the worst ever.. but it is better

Well that definitely qualifies as 'worst ever'.

Love all the features and i love launch pad.. but..
--expose is still made by a retard
main concern is why when viewing all open windows within an application do the windows in the dock stay in the dock - defeats the whole purpose - just plain stupid..
--mail continues to download and hangs

they fixed the moving icons - occurring on my lion upgraded late 2008 macbook pro and 2011 mid mac mini.. Thank the Heavens! - to have a mistake like that on a new OS would be embarrassing if i was a part of apple.. that takes us back to the days of the performa..

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I also kill application saved states
and open applications upon restarting
any type of applications saving their state - maybe i don't know how to benefit from it in conjunctions with multiple desk tops but i can's stand apps opening upon restart of them and the system..

 

[vea1083]

Full Screen Apps and Launchpad (though I don't like it but its easier to access) are deal breakers for me not to go back to Snow Leopard but my computer has been oddly more glitchy since upgrading to Lion (Mid 2010 Macbook Pro) hopefully this update just fixes some glitches and makes my computer run better.

Same here, Lion has given me 10 times the headache that Snow Leopard had caused on its entire run. I have a mid 2010 MacBook Pro and I also too notice that Lion is very glitchy compared to SL. I would love to go back to Snow Leopard but the full screen and Launchpad features found in Lion make me fall into the same trap. I've already cleanly re installed Lion 4 times for multiples factors such as:

• Hanging Shutdown Issues under 10.7.0 and 10.7.1 (still testing if it occurs under OSX Lion 10.7.2, I decided to use the most recent 3.79GB installer (10.7.2) found in the Mac App Store to see if this is a version specific issue in OSX Lion, fingers crossed on this one).
• Safari hanging (and taking the whole computer with it) under versions 5.1 and 5.1.1 (Still testing out 5.1.2, to see if it happens).

I really hope that Apple gets it right with OSX Lion 10.7.3, if not I think I will go back to Windows 8 based-PC, making my MacBook the first and last Mac that I have invested in.

 

[MrNomNoms]

Same here, Lion has given me 10 times the headache that Snow Leopard had caused on its entire run. I have a mid 2010 MacBook Pro and I also too notice that Lion is very glitchy compared to SL. I would love to go back to Snow Leopard but the full screen and Launchpad features found in Lion make me fall into the same trap. I've already cleanly re installed Lion 4 times for multiples factors such as:

• Hanging Shutdown Issues under 10.7.0 and 10.7.1 (still testing if it occurs under OSX Lion 10.7.2, I decided to use the most recent 3.79GB installer (10.7.2) found in the Mac App Store to see if this is a version specific issue in OSX Lion, fingers crossed on this one).
• Safari hanging (and taking the whole computer with it) under versions 5.1 and 5.1.1 (Still testing out 5.1.2, to see if it happens).

I really hope that Apple gets it right with OSX Lion 10.7.3, if not I think I will go back to Windows 8 based-PC, making my MacBook the first and last Mac that I have invested in.

Did you do a clean install of Mac OS X Lion - if there is one thing I think Apple should never promote and that is the idea of upgrading an operating system over another because 9/10 there is always some bug(s) hanging around that would never be there if it was clean installed.

If you're having Safari hanging then I'd suggest you audit what software/plugins you've got installed because it might be hardware related or it could be software related - getting melodramatic claiming you're going to 'buy a Windows 8 PC' won't fix the issue because you'll swap one list of problems for an entirely new list of problems. Software and hardware are made and designed by humans, humans are fallible and mistakes are made so if your expectation is to have a 100% perfect experience then sorry to be the barer of bad news but your expectations are unrealistic.

Are the networking issues resolved?

My Ethernet conneciton drops in a pulsating manner at times.

If that is occurring then the issue is either with your hardware, router, cable or operating system installation - the fact it might have 'worked perfectly under Snow Leopard' means nothing in much the same way that two things occurring at the same time doesn't necessarily point to a causation relationship.

 

[vea1083]

Did you do a clean install of Mac OS X Lion - if there is one thing I think Apple should never promote and that is the idea of upgrading an operating system over another because 9/10 there is always some bug(s) hanging around that would never be there if it was clean installed.

If you're having Safari hanging then I'd suggest you audit what software/plugins you've got installed because it might be hardware related or it could be software related - getting melodramatic claiming you're going to 'buy a Windows 8 PC' won't fix the issue because you'll swap one list of problems for an entirely new list of problems. Software and hardware are made and designed by humans, humans are fallible and mistakes are made so if your expectation is to have a 100% perfect experience then sorry to be the barer of bad news but your expectations are unrealistic.



If that is occurring then the issue is either with your hardware, router, cable or operating system installation - the fact it might have 'worked perfectly under Snow Leopard' means nothing in much the same way that two things occurring at the same time doesn't necessarily point to a causation relationship.

For the record I like OSX (in response to your remarks on my Windows 8 statement), but my experience with Lion has made me doubt about the future reliability of OSX.

 

[Pentad]

This is my experience and theory behind Lion:

I am not a fan of Lion either. It is ok but there are nothing that it does that I could not live without. However, it took some things away that I really liked: speed of SL, battery life under SL, and Spaces. With the later, I know it's under a new umbrella of features but I liked how it used to work. I have since come to tolerate the new incarnation of Spaces.

I ran SL with 8 GB of memory and it was very fast. Lion brought a lot more sluggishness to OS X which given the new features isn't exactly shocking. I was amazed at giving my 2011 MBP 16 GB, it made Lion very snappy. As snappy as SL was in the day.

I think so many people have fondness for SL because it was an 'upgrade' if you will to Leopard. So it built on top of the polish they had done to Leopard.

Also, L and SL did not have to compete as much with iOS development inside Apple nor was Apple trying to shoehorn iOS features into its desktop experience.

I think we can plainly see that OS X and iOS are going to become a more unified experience. Apple has given some clues by the naming structure of Lion.

Lion -of course- being the king of cats so where do you go from here? Mountain Lion? I mean any other cat names is lower than Lion. So if Lion is the last of OS X, you could start down an unified iOS release schedule. Say OS 11 becomes iOS Desktop.

I'm not sure how well I will like that but luckily there is Windows 8 and Linux to move to if things go badly...

Finally, I think many of us who have been with Apple for a long time have come to appreciate a polished OS and are frustrated at the sloppiness of Lion.

I don't think Apple has ever released a buggier OS than 10.7 For the first time, I started telling people to wait before upgrading. 10.7.1 was minor and 10.7.2 started to fix some of the bigger issues.

As someone mentioned before, I'm still shocked (too) that the Finder menubar bug still exists in 10.7.2.

I also think Apple has started to abandon the Pro market for a more rounded consumer experience. This makes sense as they make a great deal of money but is somewhat sad for those of us who look toward the Pro market from Apple.

Examples of this can be seen in the Mac Pro line which has still not be updated and the MBP line used to be very high-end. I am still in awe that a MBP only ships for 4 GB of memory.

I think 2012 and 2013 will be very interesting...

-P

 

[JackieTreehorn]

Lion -of course- being the king of cats so where do you go from here?

Snow Lion

 

[RedRaven571]

Snow Lion

TigeLeopaLion (It' s tiger inside a leopard inside a lion).