Anyone else think they released Snow Leopard 10A394 through Software Updater because they new so many non-developers were testing it?
Nope. Apple do occasionally release seed updates via software updates.
Anyone else think they released Snow Leopard 10A394 through Software Updater because they new so many non-developers were testing it?
Anyone else think they released Snow Leopard 10A394 through Software Updater because they new so many non-developers were testing it?
Is iStat Pro Widget working?
IIRC Adobe crap never relly works early on.
Apple won't replace the current QT icon until they are confident with all changes (sort of Apple's way of telling people that they're not done with it) but you won't have to wait long (what's a week or two after all).
The other main thing from what i have read is that the preview and recent updates still dont have the 64 bit kernel extentions. So i assume from that the OS is still 32bit?
Which is completely and utterly and patently and royally incorrect. It has been booting into 64bit for quite some time.
It is partially correct. This seed still only have 64bit extensions from the most recent macs. Several early 2007-2008 Intel macbooks and macbook pro still can't boot to 64 kernel.
SL is both a 32bit/64bit kernel, it isn't a 64bit kernel only OS. Apple's site mentioned this as well that it will run 32bit for those that don't support 64bit (original Intel Core Duo macs).
It is partially correct. This seed still only have 64bit extensions from the most recent macs. Several early 2007-2008 Intel macbooks and macbook pro still can't boot to 64 kernel.
SL is both a 32bit/64bit kernel, it isn't a 64bit kernel only OS. Apple's site mentioned this as well that it will run 32bit for those that don't support 64bit (original Intel Core Duo macs).
I've got a MacBook and I had an interesting situation where the X3100 video driver is this weird fusion of 32 and 64bit, two of the three components are 32bit only, and one of them is dual 32/64bit. I'm wondering whether Apple has thrown in the towel or are they actually going provide a 64bit X3100 driver.
Go to your System Profiler and Click Software Tab.Ok i dont get this, how do you know if its running in 64bit mode?
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Anyone disappointed by the lack of a new UI (or Marble as it's being called) should check out iLeopard. Basically it's what marble will probably be and replaces all aqua UI elements with more Leopard-esque ones. Works like a charm for me.
The other main thing from what i have read is that the preview and recent updates still dont have the 64 bit kernel extentions. So i assume from that the OS is still 32bit?
It is partially correct. This seed still only have 64bit extensions from the most recent macs. Several early 2007-2008 Intel macbooks and macbook pro still can't boot to 64 kernel.
SL is both a 32bit/64bit kernel, it isn't a 64bit kernel only OS. Apple's site mentioned this as well that it will run 32bit for those that don't support 64bit (original Intel Core Duo macs).
I've got a MacBook and I had an interesting situation where the X3100 video driver is this weird fusion of 32 and 64bit, two of the three components are 32bit only, and one of them is dual 32/64bit. I'm wondering whether Apple has thrown in the towel or are they actually going provide a 64bit X3100 driver.
This shows the state of development that Apple is in. It hasn't finished developing all the 64bit extensions yet. 64bit extensions actually started to show up 3-4 seeds ago, about 2 months ago IIRC.
64-bit only on certain machines too? This is going downhill fast.Are there any good explanations of what Apple is doing with 64-bit OS? Were the promises of true 64-bit for 10.6 empty, or is there just a lot more work to do?
Microsoft's clean break between 32-bit and 64-bit operation systems is beginning to look like a lot cleaner way to make the jump to true 64-bit.
Are there any good explanations of what Apple is doing with 64-bit OS? Were the promises of true 64-bit for 10.6 empty, or is there just a lot more work to do?
Microsoft's clean break between 32-bit and 64-bit operation systems is beginning to look like a lot cleaner way to make the jump to true 64-bit.
64-bit only on certain machines too? This is going downhill fast.
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Anyone disappointed by the lack of a new UI (or Marble as it's being called) should check out iLeopard. Basically it's what marble will probably be and replaces all aqua UI elements with more Leopard-esque ones. Works like a charm for me.
There's nothing to worry about. Promises of true 64bit OS are not false or empty. It has been running in pure 64bit mode on some of the Mac desktops and some unibody Macs. Microsoft had the same issue when they first released Vista. Some people could not find 64 bit drivers for some of their hardware parts...
... and don't forget the disaster that is the XP 64.
You must also understand that all extensions must be 64bit in order to run 64bit kernel. Which means if your mac hardware has 99% extensions ready for 64bit, it still won't boot until that last 1% code is converted to 64bit. There is no exception at all.
Again, Apple has 2 months of full development left and also the seeds that we are using are not the latest codes from all the teams. 10a394 may have been built after WWDC for all we know. Apple is probably 2 months ahead of us in terms of coding.
The justification that "Apple makes the whole widget" rings hollow here. Microsoft's 64-bit systems supported most mainstream devices out-of-the box.
Apple controls everything, but 2 months out from release there are still mainstream high volume Apples that can't run 64-bit?
That's scary....
Funny you say that - since I'm typing on an octo-core Xeon that came from Dell with XP-64, was upgraded to Vista x64, and is now running Windows 7 RC x64.
XP-64 was a pain if you had a bunch of old PCI cards that you wanted to connect. If you got a new system, it was easy to find devices with x64 support.
But, point taken. With Vista and especially Windows 7, x64 is a full sibling with x86. And the balance is starting to tip, the end of x86 support is starting to show - some things are here that are x64 only.
It's good to hear that Apple is following the cleaner path that Microsoft took. The earlier message wasn't clear that 64-bit was all or nothing.
Apple is not two months ahead in testing, though.
iLeopard wont install on my 10A394.
I haven't tried it with 10.6 now, but it works fine in 10.5...
Anyone know why when I go to update it says an error occurred and that the file does not exist? I download it and it restarts and it says that.