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new look dock and better spotlight

hopefully they change the look of the dock. i know i'll feel incomplete without a new dock lol

A new dock would be the icing that would make this cake something really really special. :cool:

Spotlight has proved so inaccurate in file search that I've resorted to buying pathfinder, which is far superior in almost every way. Is the new spotlight likely to be pathfinder like with path file clearly illustrated? :confused:
 
Maybe just something i've missed... but in the Dock settings dialogue, there is a button "minimize windows to program icon" (translated).

Is that new for this build?

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And if this function is used, and e.g. some Finder windows is minimized, they are shown in the new Exposé separated in smaller windows at the bottom.

Good catch. I like that feature. Dock Expose groups minimised and open windows separately, which is cool. Regular expose has also been changed to have the same layout as Dock Expose, and brings in windows from all screens to the main screen.
 
Any "Font smoothing style" yet?

I find it very odd that Apple has seemingly removed options for "Font smoothing styles" in: System Preferences>Appearance.

Does anyone else find this odd?

Not really... Any computer running Snow Leopard will have an LCD screen so it will required the LCD font smoothing...

I tried the new build yesterday by the way, and it seems to have a fixed a few graphics issues with the menus, it includes dock exposé and the ability to minimize windows into their icons (instead of at the right of the dock) and this is pretty good, and it seems already much more stable. So much that I'm wondering if it won't be my main OS or what on my iMac that I use all the time... But I have some specific apps that I don't know if they will work or not.

Anyways, I smell the final aproaching very quickly, this build makes much more sense than the one they gave at WWDC...

Now if only they could add as many languages tools as in Office 2007, and include more than just English in Dicitonnary.app. I would also love a store a little bit like the App Store for the iPhone, which could regroup every single software update possible. Sparle is a really good thing, but you need to start every application to start it. If it could run via Software Update, I'd be really happy and up-to-date all the time. Apple's servers would be a little overcharged, but their server farm will handle it :p
 
Didi someone notice this ?

when lauching dock exposé, snowleopard will show you open windows as well as minimized ones (separated by a thin line)
 

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can share scanners too !

I've been able to use my epson scanner (linked to my iMac) and access it through my macbook pro !

Snow leopard will definitely the worth !!!
 

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Any one notice the new expose don't play super well with spaces? If i'm in space 1, and i click and hold on the mail icon, when mail is in space 4, all I get is a darkened screen and now windows. Any one else get this?
 
Any one notice the new expose don't play super well with spaces? If i'm in space 1, and i click and hold on the mail icon, when mail is in space 4, all I get is a darkened screen and now windows. Any one else get this?
Ya I've noticed that. It's almost as if Apple were planning on using spaces for something else.
 
Just noticed:
now Spaces gives a visual feedback when moving a windows from one space to another, either by dragging it to the border of screen or by holding the mouse and using keys (leopard features). The same animation is used while changing spaces, replacing the old one - the arrows are gone.
 
Do a show all in Spotlight. Does your Search window show "SIZE" as well.

When I goto view options for the window I see that its checked and unelectable to turn it off or on. Anyone know how to turn this off or On. I have another system that does not show the SIZE row. I love now being able to see the SIZE line in Spotlight searches.
 
Trust me it wasn't your inexperience, I ve been using windows for 15+ years and I still haven't figured it out, it's just a mess, a sordid mess and it gets farworse everyyear with menus and submenus and sidebars and all sorts of useless crap that can't make upgor a good interface.

Microsoft doesn't know how to design an interface. It's been this way for years now, since before XP. Or else they simply don't care or relegate it to low-priority status.

Whatever the case, they have no over-arching mission statement when it comes to their products.

With Apple, you KNOW right off the bat what's most important to them and what you can expect in their products. Design, design, design. The process that happens between the time a user picks up the device and executes the desired action. That makes all the difference.
 
Microsoft doesn't know how to design an interface. It's been this way for years now, since before XP. Or else they simply don't care or relegate it to low-priority status.

Whatever the case, they have no over-arching mission statement when it comes to their products.

With Apple, you KNOW right off the bat what's most important to them and what you can expect in their products. Design, design, design. The process that happens between the time a user picks up the device and executes the desired action. That makes all the difference.

Amen, Brother! So well said.

Now let me get a napkin to wipe my salivating over snow leopard!!!:):D
 
Microsoft doesn't know how to design an interface. It's been this way for years now, since before XP. Or else they simply don't care or relegate it to low-priority status.

Whatever the case, they have no over-arching mission statement when it comes to their products.

With Apple, you KNOW right off the bat what's most important to them and what you can expect in their products. Design, design, design. The process that happens between the time a user picks up the device and executes the desired action. That makes all the difference.
I'm amazed people still blindly believe this theory.

Trust me it wasn't your inexperience, I ve been using windows for 15+ years and I still haven't figured it out, it's just a mess, a sordid mess and it gets farworse everyyear with menus and submenus and sidebars and all sorts of useless crap that can't make upgor a good interface.
If you can't figure out Windows, then frankly you shouldn't be using computers. I know it's fun to hate Windows around here, and that's fine, but the simple fact is that it's extremely usable by the average user. It wouldn't have 90%+ market share if it wasn't. (And yes, the near monopoly helps, too.)

Quicklook is indispensable for previewing. In fact it's basically an image/dcoument viewer that is instant-on. It is FAR faster than opening an application. And this is doubly apparent when watching a movie using Quicklook.

I'm pretty surprised you think it's a gimmick. There are users that make extensive use of it.
I make a lot of usage out of it, too. My point is, though, that the lack of it on other operating system doesn't somehow make them unusuable. I have no problems using Windows and Linux, despite the "archaic" practice of having to open files with programs.
 
If you can't figure out Windows, then frankly you shouldn't be using computers. I know it's fun to hate Windows around here, and that's fine, but the simple fact is that it's extremely usable by the average user. It wouldn't have 90%+ market share if it wasn't. (And yes, the near monopoly helps, too.)

It has 90% market share because of licensing to everyone and their dog. And it shows too, and not in a good way.

Apple decided on a closed system and charged more for it. Apple mismanaged this paradigm in the mid-90's and it almost killed them. Steve Jobs returned and Apple executed it correctly. And now Apple dominates the upper end of the spectrum, relegating MS' products to bargain-basement (cheap, low-class) status.

It's just that simple. MS decided to be common. Apple decided to be unique, and to infuse their products with features that emphasize that. All the time. Everywhere.

And here we are. That Steve Jobs ("they have no taste") interview from years ago encapsulates the situation perfectly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfALGcDNEDw

It really does come down to attitude. What attitude do you have toward the user? What is your vision when it comes to how the user should interact with technology. MS has no real vision in this area. It's just a series of hit-and-miss experiments. Nearly everything Apple has touched (from even before the move to Intel) has turned to gold. While MS can't even manage to roll out a decent OS since 2001 (not that XP was anything to be proud of.) The only thing impressive that rolled out of Redmond in recent memory has been the Xbox.
 
This is a feature I'll never ever use because the dock sucks. When you're seriously multitasking, the dock becomes bogged down on even the fastest Mac Pro's. You end up waiting for the dock to un-freeze and probably end up clicking on the wrong item when you actually do click. So I'll want to use this expose feature and end up opening photoshop instead by mistake. No thanks.
 
It's not all one way traffic. The path bar in Windows in nice though, especially how you can click on any folder in the path to see its contents.

Errr, correct me if I'm wrong, but Finder has had the path bar too which works in the exact same manner for years now also :p At least since 10.5 was released...

Nope. They "just" added QL in Open dialogs. I agree that would be really great to have it also in Spotlight searches.

While would be.. useful, kinda hard to make it usable... given that spotlight is activated via 'space' by default, and well, in a text field, a space is well, a space :p

I'm amazed people still blindly believe this theory.

The theory that MS can't design good interfaces? Why a theory? Seems more like the obvious truth... Not that I'm trying to bash or attack them, but well, lets put it this way, they aren't exactly known for making things look good. XP looked Fisher Price, Vista looked like the 'Shiny' dial was turned up to 11, 7 is well, not at all different from Vista...

How about this, when Microsoft improves the crappy text rendering in Windows, the same crappy rendering that they've used for a decade now, then we can talk, but while the characters look like over-saturated insects running around your screen... well, yeah...


If you can't figure out Windows, then frankly you shouldn't be using computers. I know it's fun to hate Windows around here, and that's fine, but the simple fact is that it's extremely usable by the average user. It wouldn't have 90%+ market share if it wasn't.

While I agree with the initial statement, I highly disagree that its "highly usable by average user". It is not highly usable, all it is is familiar and people are used to it. Kinda like just because plenty of people watch FOX News, doesn't make them any more credible, just more popular.

When I'll stop having to fix computers for every single relative because "they got slow" is the day I'll say that Windows has become "usable" for the "average user".

I make a lot of usage out of it, too. My point is, though, that the lack of it on other operating system doesn't somehow make them unusuable. I have no problems using Windows and Linux, despite the "archaic" practice of having to open files with programs.

Oh I too use XP, Vista, 7, Fedora and OS X on a daily basis, and I'm extremely proficient in all, but it doesn't make Windows blow any less :p

This is a feature I'll never ever use because the dock sucks. When you're seriously multitasking, the dock becomes bogged down on even the fastest Mac Pro's. You end up waiting for the dock to un-freeze and probably end up clicking on the wrong item when you actually do click. So I'll want to use this expose feature and end up opening photoshop instead by mistake. No thanks.

err... honestly that sounds more like a personal problem then a problem with the dock. I've never heard of anyone "opening Photoshop by mistake". Don't want to accidentally click on it? Remove it from the dock. Maybe you have it running with every single app in it with the icons being 16x16px? :p Also "bogged down on even the fastest Mac Pros" - ok, now you're just blowing steam outta your rear... The lowest end Mini can run the dock perfectly fine even with a hundred icons in it... If your "fastest Mac Pro" is struggling keeping the dock running, then again, that sounds like you're just doing something wrong... seriously...
 
While would be.. useful, kinda hard to make it usable... given that spotlight is activated via 'space' by default, and well, in a text field, a space is well, a space :p

of course not with the space...but maybe with the spotlight icon (then eye) that appears on a spotlight item when the pointer is over it...:cool:
 
Yes, it has always worked for me.

Yes, iStat Pro works (the widget), but the menu bar (iStat Menus) doesn't work, at least not for me :(

The menu bar is so much more useful than the widget, imo.

If anyone has gotten the cpu/network monitor working in the menu bar, please do post!
 
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