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Apple today seeded another beta of the upcoming iPadOS 16.1 software to developers for testing purposes, with the beta coming three weeks after the initial iPadOS 16.1 beta was seeded out.

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Registered developers can download the iPadOS 16 profile from the Apple Developer Center, and once installed, the beta will be available over the air.

Apple has opted to delay the launch of iPadOS 16 in order to continue working out bugs and other issues with the Stage Manager feature that is coming to M1 iPad models. iPadOS 16 will not launch in September alongside iOS 16, and will instead be released as iPadOS 16.1 at a later date.

"As its own platform with features specifically designed for iPad, we have the flexibility to deliver iPadOS on its own schedule. This Fall, iPadOS will ship after iOS, as version 16.1 in a free software update," Apple said.

With the first beta of iPadOS 16.1, Apple has already started to make improvements to the way that Stage Manager works, changing the way the side rail can be interacted with while in full screen.

Apple rarely splits iOS and iPadOS launches apart, but it has decided so in this case because the latest version of iPadOS is rife with bugs and has been seeing a number of complaints about the multitasking Stage Manager option that continues to need refinements.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Second Beta of Delayed iPadOS 16.1 Update to Developers
 

nbabbit

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Just got iOS 16.1 Beta
 

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Stage Manager is DOA. The real solution here is both obvious (and hilarious) - Apple needs to tweak their MacOS apps to properly display/scale with corresponding resolutions, when using the iPad as a real secondary display, Ie, refactoring menus/ribbons that work with the appropriate UI scaling.

They tell iOS Developers to do this all the time, and to support Portrait mode for the iPhone, too. But they won't subject themselves to this same exercise. 😂

There's an upsell here of course - your secondary display will be much more legible of course with a 12.9' iPad Pro. Apple will never properly implement UI scaling - Apple Product Managers gotta light up those feature lists to unlock those RSU grants. And it would undercut their (absurd) position that the iPad shouldn't run full MacOS. It's just laziness on Apple's part.

Looks like I'll be using Duet Display for the foreseeable future.
 
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Stage Manager is DOA. The real solution here is both obvious (and hilarious) - Apple needs to tweak their MacOS apps to properly display/scale with corresponding resolutions, when using the iPad as a real secondary display, Ie, refactoring menus/ribbons that work with the appropriate UI scaling.

They tell iOS Developers to do this all the time, and to support Portrait mode for the iPhone, too. But they won't subject themselves to this same exercise. 😂

There's an upsell here of course - your secondary display will be much more legible of course with a 12.9' iPad Pro. Apple will never properly implement UI scaling - Apple Product Managers gotta light up those feature lists to unlock those RSU grants. And it would undercut their (absurd) position that the iPad shouldn't run full MacOS. It's just laziness on Apple's part.

Looks like I'll be using Duet Display for the foreseeable future.

A 12.9 foot iPad Pro? Wow, why wasn't that announced last week 😆

But seriously, I've been wanting to replace my iPad Air + Mac mini with an IPP, i.e. using the IPP as my only computer. The bugginess of iPadOS 16.0 gave me pause. Here's hoping 16.1 works out the bugs.
 
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why anyone would purchase a StudioDisplay for an ipad, beyond me.
To me this whole "Stage Manager" and "iPad replaces the Mac" etc. is Apple just trying things out. Se what's possible. Show it off on stage.
It's fun and cool to demonstrate and to play around with these things, but at the end of the day the Mac connected to a large display will be the choice for almost all users who need a 2nd display.

I have an M1 iPad Pro, and once iPad OS 16 is available, I will play around with Stage Manager, and think "that's pretty cool!", show it off to the partner, and then probably never use it again. Use that iPad as most people do: a fun thing to consume stuff on.
 
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Isn't it funny that we have iOS 16.1 beta out now with iPadOS 16.1 and the notes refers to them as
  • iOS 16.1 beta (20B5045d)
  • iPadOS 16 beta 8 (20B5045d) aka iPadOS 16.1 :D

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Ash969

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Anyone getting “unable to check for updates” after installing ipados 16.1 beta2 ? I am getting this. It is under Settings/General/Software update
yes, same issue with my M1 iPad after updating to the beta from today. Removed the beta profile and tried again, but same error message. Hoping that we will be able to receive the next (beta)update in the coming weeks.
 
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Joshyboy40

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yes, same issue with my M1 iPad after updating to the beta from today. Removed the beta profile and tried again, but same error message. Hoping that we will be able to receive the next (beta)update in the coming weeks.
Same issue even without the beta profile?
 

pdaholic

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I’m looking forward to the public beta, hopefully tonight. One cool thing about stage manager is I can stack windows in portrait mode, no more long skinny windows. Otherwise SM has many issues that I hope are addressed. Definitely not Apple’s best effort.
 

Ash969

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Same issue even without the beta profile?
yup, removed the profile, same issue. Added the profile back and still same error.

At least im on the latest beta for now. I noticed small random issues with previous build of iPadOS 16, but nothing serious. Stable enough for me to use it on my primary iPad
 
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Joshyboy40

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yup, removed the profile, same issue. Added the profile back and still same error.

At least im on the latest beta for now. I noticed small random issues with previous build of iPadOS 16, but nothing serious. Stable enough for me to use it on my primary iPad
Hopefully they fix it otherwise we will need to downgrade which would be annoying!
 

jonnyv34

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This beta is even worse for me than before. When using external keyboard and connected to external monitor, can’t get the dock or the “stages” on the left to show up using the cursor gesture. But using the iPad screen and a touch gesture, there it works.
 
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8 beta's in and iPadOS 16 is still garbage. I can see Stage manager being buggy in beta 1-4, but once you get to beta 8 it should be perfect. It won't surprise me if Apple strait cancels Stage Manager.

At this point, I blame the developers for being either A. Lazy, B. Working from Home or C. incompetent.
 

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The only major issue I have had with 16.1 is inconsistent battery life. I typically use the the same amount and same apps day to day (3-4 hours.) Sometimes it will use 25% the next time 50%. Makes no sense.
 

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I have the iPad Pro 12.9 inch and the Magic Keyboard attached to it. I also updated to iPadOS 16.1 beta today. With any app open on the screen, I have noticed that I can no longer bring up the task bar while swiping down (one finger) at the bottom edge of the screen while using the Magic Keyboard’s trackpad. Anyone else?

Axel F.
 
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8 beta's in and iPadOS 16 is still garbage. I can see Stage manager being buggy in beta 1-4, but once you get to beta 8 it should be perfect. It won't surprise me if Apple strait cancels Stage Manager.

At this point, I blame the developers for being either A. Lazy, B. Working from Home or C. incompetent.
or D. The concept is flawed and not throught through. And that's on the Product and Design teams
 

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I have the iPad Pro 12.9 inch and the Magic Keyboard attached to it. I also updated to iPadOS 16.1 beta today. With any app open on the screen, I have noticed that I can no longer bring up the task bar while swiping down (one finger) at the bottom edge of the screen while using the Magic Keyboard’s trackpad. Anyone else?

Axel F.
The last iPadOS 16.1 beta from August completely boinked my trackpad on my Magic Keyboard. I had to go. back to iPadOS 15 in order to get it to work.
 
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