The mid 2015 21" iMac are still TB2 and USB 3.0 (5 Gbps), so a HDD would be a real pain compared to a fusion or earlier SDD for that line. I recommend when possible replace that with a 24" iMac. These 2015 models will likely fall off the supported OS, next go around after Monterey a year from now IMHO. I got rid of a late 2015 27" iMac recently (best options with fusion drive) and the new 24" model is night and day different from that.Well fellas, I’m excited to see how Monterey will run on my MBP. I put the first beta on there day one and was generally pleased so I got high hopes for Beta 2 and those thereafter.
However, my iMac HATED it… to the point that over the weekend I decided to backup what data I could and do a full system wipe, format the drive and start all over. I went so far as to bring the computer back all the way to its stock OS (El Capitan) and proceeded to install Mojave and now it runs like a brand new machine. I know the HDD is a huge bottleneck but I was praying that maybe Monterey would bring speed fixes and improvements to an aging Mac, something that Big Sur never did, but it doesn’t look like that’s happening.
I will continue to run Monterey on my MacBook Pro since it has the power to do it efficiently (thanks to that SSD!).
... maybe that's why it takes an eternity to boot.On an external SSD, yes.
I’m not sure the internet would still effectively “work” for a browser doing those things.
Glad I wasn't the only one.I was having sleep issues and kernel panics in Beta 1, so hopefully this addresses some of those.
Anyone has a link to the full installer?
Apple today seeded the second developer beta of macOS Monterey, the newest version of the macOS operating system. The second beta comes three weeks after Apple released the first beta following its WWDC keynote event.
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Registered developers can download the beta through the Apple Developer Center and once the appropriate profile is installed, betas will be available through the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences.
As with all new betas, Apple recommends not installing the new macOS update on a primary machine because it is early release software and could have bugs.
macOS Monterey introduces Universal Control, a feature that lets a single mouse, trackpad, and keyboard be used across multiple Mac or iPad devices, plus there's a new AirPlay to Mac feature.
Safari has been redesigned with a new tab bar and support for Tab Groups, and FaceTime has gained spatial audio, a Portrait Mode on M1 Macs, and Voice Isolation for cutting out background noise. There's also a new SharePlay FaceTime feature that lets Apple users watch TV, listen to music, and share their screens with one another.
Shared With You, a separate feature, keeps track of the music, links, podcasts, news, and photos that people are sent in Messages, highlighting it in the relevant apps. Notes has a new Quick Note feature for jotting down thoughts, and collaboration is easier with mentions and an Activity View.
The Shortcuts app from iOS is now available on the Mac, and Focus helps people stay on task by cutting out background distractions. There's an updated Maps app with a whole slew of new features, and with Live Text, Macs can now detect text in photos or provide details on animals, art, landmarks, plants, and more in images.
Mail Privacy Protection hides IP and prevents tracking through invisible pixels, and iCloud Private Relay keeps Safari browsing protected. There are many other new features in macOS Monterey, with a full rundown available in our macOS Monterey roundup.
macOS Monterey is only available to registered developers right now, but in July, Apple will the Monterey beta available to its public beta testers.
Article Link: Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS 12 Monterey to Developers
I am. Definitely improved over beta 1. No issues yet.Anyone using this on their primary machine?
not surprisedWell fellas, I’m excited to see how Monterey will run on my MBP. I put the first beta on there day one and was generally pleased so I got high hopes for Beta 2 and those thereafter.
However, my iMac HATED it… to the point that over the weekend I decided to backup what data I could and do a full system wipe, format the drive and start all over. I went so far as to bring the computer back all the way to its stock OS (El Capitan) and proceeded to install Mojave and now it runs like a brand new machine. I know the HDD is a huge bottleneck but I was praying that maybe Monterey would bring speed fixes and improvements to an aging Mac, something that Big Sur never did, but it doesn’t look like that’s happening.
I will continue to run Monterey on my MacBook Pro since it has the power to do it efficiently (thanks to that SSD!).
... maybe that's why it takes an eternity to boot.
Also, beware you're also getting beta firmware and on some Intel Macs (like your 2020 iMac) a lot of stuff happens in firmware.
Booting off your internal drive, you're now mixing the stable release with unstable firmware which doesn't always end well.
When Apple recommends not using betas on your primary Mac, they mean it.
It doesn't work on my MacBook Air 2019, MacBook Air 2020 or my iPad Pro 2020.Hope to see universal control working…
not surprised
i would expect performance on hdd to get worse on each successive update
have you considered putting an ssd in your imac ?
I am. Not too buggy.Anyone using this on their primary machine?
Seems like the beta 3 would likely be the first PB as Tim said July. Still wait a few PBs, until you see a lot of posts indicating a positive experience. I plan on using an external SSD for testing.dont think im gonna touch the PB when it comes out for a long time.
I am on my M1 MBP. Had a few issues with sound but otherwise basically no issues.Anyone using this on their primary machine?
This is pretty much me too. I've been a Mac user since 2004 and always jumped at the opportunity to try out the latest releases. But macOS is not like the old OS X days. Big Sur was the first macOS release that I held off updating to and only recently did so because I started having some rendering issues with After Effects and was hoping that maybe Big Sur might resolve them (it surprising did). The only thing that interests me in Monterey is Universal Control but I've gone this long without such a feature and can wait until Monterey is solid this time next year. The only way I will ever be on the most current macOS early is if I buy a new Mac and it comes that way. Otherwise I can wait it out. I guess this is what 40 feels like lol (I'll be 40 in a few weeks).Good luck to all you beta-testers. Been one since the very early days of OS X - suffering through untold numbers of bone-crushing bugs that took forever (if at all) to be fixed, bug reports that over 95% of the time just went into a black hole, and accumulated months of my life wasted while I witnessed the slow and steady decline of Apple's software QC over the years. My new plan is to ride the Big Sur updates to the end and then my next update will be to the final version of Monterey, followed by only final versions of MacOS after that. I get a shiny new OS every year, and it'll always as rock solid as it gets. And all the software I use will also have had plenty of time to acclimate to the OS when I upgrade. Oh happy days - my turn to mooch off you.
-----(Blinks slowly…) You, sir, are a brave man for running beta macOS releases on a Hackintosh. I salute you.i noticed there was a firmware update because my hackintosh was hanging on update. removed the firmware folder from my efi and all is well now![]()
Isn’t the ui the same? Apart from safariInstalled this afternoon. It seems faster than Beta 1. I am running it off of an external SSD and it will be my daily driver until (and if) it breaks. I love the UI and feel of Monterey.
Isn’t the ui the same? Apart from safari
On the latest build which came out today - is anyone having an issue running Microsoft Remote Desktop ? Worked in Beta1 - but now when I open it just closes.
Thanks - but did you connect to a Win box ? As that is when it fails...I just downloaded and started it up and it seemed fine.