Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS High Sierra to Public Beta Testers

[Ar40]

MUCH better than public beta 1. I'm not getting the flashing folder of death screen upon wake from sleep now, so that's great.

Still getting corrupted passwords/cache every time I restart, and still getting messages that I "this file is damaged and can't be opened - move to trash" when the file is perfectly fine and I can open it on other computers.

As I'm typing this I'm noticing a weird error where my typing cursor (that flashing vertical line that shows where you are up to) disappears as I type.

 

[fisherking]

But what version of itunes have you got? Is it 12.7 or is it still 12.6.1?

12.6.1.27 here also. sorry, misread your post, thought you were not seeing your device in PB2....

 

[dypeterc]

I have installed it also. The Mail App is still not displaying preferences correctly.

When I go to Mail, open Preferences I just get a blank window. Does anyone else get a correct display of the preferences?

Time machine backups seem to be re-enabled now.

Mail prefs are fine for me

 

[Icaras]

I had the same issue. Rebooted and shutdown. Unplugged all accessories and tried it again from App Store. Worked afterwards.

Also turned off 3rd party firewall (little snitch).

Thanks! Will try that!

 

[Icaras]

I had the same issue. Rebooted and shutdown. Unplugged all accessories and tried it again from App Store. Worked afterwards.

Also turned off 3rd party firewall (little snitch).

This is crazy. I just tried resetting PRAM, booting into safe mode. Unplugging all peripherals. Nothing works. It still just reboots like normal everytime. Im really not sure what to do now.

 

[weckart]

Following these comments, this beta is much better than the last and also much worse than the last.

Over to you, Cupertino.

 

[Smigit]

Reading some of these posts it sounds like people are running High Sierra on their main partition vs secondary partition or external drive. Why would one need to run a Time Machine backup on a partition with just High Sierra and whatever one is testing?

Because myself and presumably many others are running it to try it out for day to day use, not just to regression test a few apps. After all, this is the public beta not the developer beta so I doubt people are overly interested in testing just one or two programs.

Advice always stands that there should be a roll back strategy, but if the OS works then I don't think there's reason not to use it as a primary OS on a primary partition as long as you're aware of the caveats. With that being the case TimeCapsules another layer of security for anything happening on the Mac.

Now, even if we were all doing strict isolated testing, it makes sense that Time Capsule support be tested prior to go live just as any other function may be.

 

[tywebb13]

12.6.1.27 here also. sorry, misread your post, thought you were not seeing your device in PB2....

Well so far I have been just going on what I have heard from other developers. I didn't know if it affected my own devices. Until now.

And up till now I and others have suggested ways to downgrade back to 12.6.1.

But now I plugged a device into my computer and found that the bug is indeed affecting my devices.

I decided to tackle a much harder problem. Not just how to downgrade to a lower version of itunes, but how to actually FIX itunes 12.7 itself.

So my workaround to fix itunes 12.7 is on apple's developer page here: https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/82313

My devices are now showing up in itunes 12.7 again.

 

[wol]

BY FAR the WORST BUILD EVER
The first public beta build was workable, 10.13 Beta (17A306f) is plagued with bugs. If you are thinking about public beta testing - skip this version. I can't keep up with all the bug reporting.
Some issues I'm having is Fan running all the time (iMac 27-inch, Late 2012) 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 32 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2 GB)
...
Try it if you'd like, but I would recommend skipping this version.

Must be your superior HW, which has trouble with 10.13 Beta (17A306f) ...

None of the problems you are experiencing are present on my Mac mini (Mid 2010) 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB). Wanna trade?

 

[slappypig]

This is crazy. I just tried resetting PRAM, booting into safe mode. Unplugging all peripherals. Nothing works. It still just reboots like normal everytime. Im really not sure what to do now.

I meant to add as a last resort when mine was doing the same I went back through and downloaded the beta.apple.com HS PB package as if though I was signing up again. The full package began downloading. I happened to run update again and it found the PB2 update. I canceled the full package and let the update continue. A couple reboots later and a bit of time (25 min?) I was back up and running the PB2. No idea if what I did actually fixed or tweaked anything it's just what happened to have worked for me. Good luck.

2015 MBP

Cheers.

 

[Icaras]

I meant to add as a last resort when mine was doing the same I went back through and downloaded the beta.apple.com HS PB package as if though I was signing up again. The full package began downloading. I happened to run update again and it found the PB2 update. I canceled the full package and let the update continue. A couple reboots later and a bit of time (25 min?) I was back up and running the PB2. No idea if what I did actually fixed or tweaked anything it's just what happened to have worked for me. Good luck.

2015 MBP

Cheers.

Yea, I redownloaded the HS PB package high sierra multiple times from the app store but that doesn't work either. And what do you mean when you say you cancelled the full package and let the update continue?

 

[slappypig]

Yea, I redownloaded the HS PB package high sierra multiple times from the app store but that doesn't work either. And what do you mean when you say you cancelled the full package and let the update continue?

Sorry if confusing.

I attempted to install the update much like yourself and it failed multiple times each reverting to the previous PB. When I would go to the App Store to update the PB2 update didn't show. I went to beta.apple.com and pulled down the pkg again and began to download the full package. While this was downloading (I believe it is 1.9g or so) I clicked over to the Update tab and the HS PB2 update showed. I clicked "Update" for that one figuring I'll try one more time and it began to download. I then went back to the full download (the 1.9g pkg) and canceled that download. I allowed the update process to continue downloading the PB2 update and reboot...updated/installed and now I'm on PB2.

so I had two downloads going at the same time - the full pkg when you first sign up for the beta and the PB2 update. I canceled the full package since I was already on PB1 and let the PB2 download continue.

whoooh. Sounds like a lot but really only took about 1-2 minutes to do all that clicking

 

[jbachandouris]

The only issue I am having so far is with Messages. The window doesn't always open.

BTW when I open the App Store, it says that I have downloaded the Developer Beta, version 3. I am not a developer, so I'm not sure how I ended up with this. It's stable, so I'm not overly concerned..

 

[Icaras]

Sorry if confusing.

I attempted to install the update much like yourself and it failed multiple times each reverting to the previous PB. When I would go to the App Store to update the PB2 update didn't show. I went to beta.apple.com and pulled down the pkg again and began to download the full package. While this was downloading (I believe it is 1.9g or so) I clicked over to the Update tab and the HS PB2 update showed. I clicked "Update" for that one figuring I'll try one more time and it began to download. I then went back to the full download (the 1.9g pkg) and canceled that download. I allowed the update process to continue downloading the PB2 update and reboot...updated/installed and now I'm on PB2.

so I had two downloads going at the same time - the full pkg when you first sign up for the beta and the PB2 update. I canceled the full package since I was already on PB1 and let the PB2 download continue.

whoooh. Sounds like a lot but really only took about 1-2 minutes to do all that clicking

Oh no problem. Thank you again for clarifying. Interesting approach! I'm going to try this right after I finish one more time machine backup lol.

Edit: I just realized this won't work for me because I'm installing PB2 on top of Sierra (not coming from PB1), so nothing is showing up on my Updates tab.

 

[iPadCary]

The last time we were Snow Leoparded, we got a new family of macOS
shortly thereafter: named for towns instead of big cats.
I wonder if that'll happen this time ...?
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I'm still seeing sleep problems.

Me Mum says a glass of warm milk before bed always does the trick, mate!

 

[pawel_z_wrocka]

Oh no problem. Thank you again for clarifying. Interesting approach! I'm going to try this right after I finish one more time machine backup lol.

Edit: I just realized this won't work for me because I'm installing PB2 on top of Sierra (not coming from PB1), so nothing is showing up on my Updates tab.

I am having the exact same problem as you (Macbook rebooting only instead of installing the 2nd beta).

I tried installation multiple times, I tried disconnecting the external monitor (the only thing attached), now I'm going to try quitting every possible app by hand before starting the installation. I will also try the trick with going to beta Web page again. I cannot really think of anything else.

I will let you know if anything worked. Do keep me updated as well .

 

[slappypig]

Oh no problem. Thank you again for clarifying. Interesting approach! I'm going to try this right after I finish one more time machine backup lol.

Edit: I just realized this won't work for me because I'm installing PB2 on top of Sierra (not coming from PB1), so nothing is showing up on my Updates tab.

In that case you would have to do the full download from the beta.appale.com site and let it go through it's paces - you won't see anything on your updates tab. AFter the download of the package file from the site you should be running the package and see the download button for the HS beta - click it and let it run. I assume that's what you are doing - but you never know

 

[pawel_z_wrocka]

In that case you would have to do the full download from the beta.appale.com site and let it go through it's paces - you won't see anything on your updates tab. AFter the download of the package file from the site you should be running the package and see the download button for the HS beta - click it and let it run. I assume that's what you are doing - but you never know

I am trying to update from PB 1 and it doesn't work. I even tried going to beta.apple.com. And quitting programs by hand. And reinstalling macOS Public Beta Access Utility. Nothing seems to help.

 

[JDiggyDawg]

The only issue I'm having is that shortly after installing the update, my MacBook pro will recognize my second monitor for a little bit, but then after a little bit of time or unplugging the second monitor and plugging it back in, it doesn't recognize it anymore.

 

[pawel_z_wrocka]

To sum it up: when I try to update from PB1 to PB2, macOS shuts down, a progress bar with 16 minutes counter is displayed, but then the startup chime sounds and macOS restarts without updating.

Nothing seems to remedy it. I tried disconnecting external devices, shutting down programs by hand before restart, redownloading macOS Public Beta Access Utility, starting download from beta.apple.com, as suggested by slappypig, even resetting SMC and NVRAM - to no avail.

If somebody has any ideas at all, do share.

 

[Icaras]

In that case you would have to do the full download from the beta.appale.com site and let it go through it's paces - you won't see anything on your updates tab. AFter the download of the package file from the site you should be running the package and see the download button for the HS beta - click it and let it run. I assume that's what you are doing - but you never know

Yea I downloaded the entire thing from beta.apple.com. No luck.

I am trying to update from PB 1 and it doesn't work. I even tried going to beta.apple.com. And quitting programs by hand. And reinstalling macOS Public Beta Access Utility. Nothing seems to help.

I did everything you did. Quit all apps, disconnected all peripherals, and even tried installing it from safe mode. Same result, every time. This sucks.

 

[fhopper]

It blew up my Fusion drive. Disk utility sees separate drives, TechTool sees the separate drives and the combined drive but cannot make it past Partition map verification on its Partition Repair Tool. The individual HD and SSD pass Partition check but the Fusion ... its dead Jim.


Update, APPLE forums provided me with a fix. I had to rebuild my fusion drive before I could install my TM backup. I had to execute a low level command in Terminal.

N=Macintosh\ HD; for d in /dev/disk?; do o=`diskutil info $d`; [[ ! "$SSD" ]] && grep -lqw 'APPLE SSD' <<< "$o" && SSD=$d; [[ ! "$HDD" ]] && grep -lqw 'APPLE HDD' <<< "$o" && HDD=$d; [[ "$SSD" && "$HDD" ]] && break; done; diskutil cs create "$N" $SSD $HDD && diskutil cs createLV "$N" jhfs+ "$N" 100%

 

[iamtheonlyone4ever]

2012 Mac Mini with SSD and a HD, macOS is on the SSD.


First time after sleep or short sleep I get kinda the blue screen of death, yet it still works.

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as soon as i saw that blue screen my first thought was, "it look like windows"
then you said blue screen of the death
windows, blue screen of death = same thing

 

[Vash108]

Anyone have messaging issues? As soon as I turned on sync, i can no longer send or receive messages.

 

[LestâtMayfair]

On my MBPR late 2014, it works perfectly. On my late 2011 MBP it bricked my hard drive after selecting update to AFPS, and will only reboot into restore mode. I have no choice but to restore with Time Machine. Anyone else have this happen?