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Yeah, an SSD is the most bang for the buck upgrade for those old machines.

It will feel like a BRAND NEW COMPUTER. It's amazing.

Wow, didn't even consider this. I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro. Found a 525 GB SSD on Crucial for $129. Seems like a no brainer.

Does it really make it feel like a new computer? Thanks.

Thom
 
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Do you have an SSD? El Cap runs like El Crap on a spinner. But max out the RAM, throw in an SSD, and you're laughing.
Yeah, an SSD is the most bang for the buck upgrade for those old machines.

It will feel like a BRAND NEW COMPUTER. It's amazing.

Yes I absolutely have a decent SSD in there. Wouldn't ever go back to an HDD for my main drive!

It still doesn't run that well. Windows and Linux run much better than it, although both Windows and Linux support 16 GB of RAM in my 2010 17" MBP while OS X only supports 8 GB. Go figure.
 
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Wow, didn't even consider this. I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro. Found a 525 GB SSD on Crucial for $129. Seems like a no brainer.

Does it really make it feel like a new computer? Thanks.

Thom

I had an early 2011 15" and I put a 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM in it and it was reborn.
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Yes I absolutely have a decent SSD in there. Wouldn't ever go back to an HDD for my main drive!

It still doesn't run that well. Windows and Linux run much better than it, although both Windows and Linux support 16 GB of RAM in my 2010 17" MBP while OS X only supports 8 GB. Go figure.

That would imply that something somewhere in the guts of OS X can be tweaked to support 16GB. I.e. It's not a hardware limitation.
 
It still doesn't run that well. Windows and Linux run much better than it, although both Windows and Linux support 16 GB of RAM in my 2010 17" MBP while OS X only supports 8 GB. Go figure.

??? Your Mac will not accept more than 8GB RAM. It doesn't matter what OS it runs. The CPU doesn't support more than 8GB RAM.
 
FWIW: I've installed a number of the previous Sierra betas on an early-2015 13" MBP, but this one locked up during the install. I let it sit for about a half hour with absolutely no progress. Restarted the computer and it booted back into 16A294a without any issue.
 
So whats new in the new beta? The one thing I have found not working well is Adobe cloud. All I get is an error saying cloud is not working or words that effect. Anyone else experiencing this if so, how did you sort the problem out.
 
Seeing something weird in this beta and the one before it...

Some apps are opening without appearing either in the Dock or the Cmd+Tab app switcher:

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Note that Terminal is open, but not shown in the Dock. Also, you can see the 'open' indicator showing below the App Store icon, but App Store is not open on any desktop. Clicking that icon makes the open indicator disappear, rather than the App Store app opening.

Very odd, and not every app is affected.
 
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??? Your Mac will not accept more than 8GB RAM. It doesn't matter what OS it runs. The CPU doesn't support more than 8GB RAM.

The CPU doesn't have issues addressing RAM so long as it's 64-bit, but in this case I can indeed install 16 GB of RAM into it and it will show as such in Windows, but OS X won't boot with 16GB unless you force it to limit at 8 GB.

From the following source:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/42426/can-i-upgrade-my-macbook-mid-2010-to-16gb-of-ram-2x8g

Any mid-2010 MacBook Pro i5 or i7 is limited to a maximum of 8GB RAM. If you have a 2010 MacBook Pro Core2Duo (13"), then you are in luck and you can upgrade to 16GB RAM.

The type of RAM needed is DDR3 PC3-8500 1066. I believe there is an EFI limitation in OS X Mountain Lion that will not allow the 2010 i5/i7 Macbook Pro's to be upgraded over 8GB RAM. After doing some digging around, it sounds like the limitation has to do with the IntelHD graphics SW that is used by OS X.

Some datapoints to note:

  • A 2010 i5/i7 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM running MountainLion/Mavericks will kernel panic during normal boot.

  • You will be able to boot into safe mode OK and it will show the 16GB RAM in System Information. Notice that the graphics card is listed as "Nvidia ..." in safe mode, as opposed to "IntelHD...".

  • It is possible to limit Max RAM to 8GB using the command: sudo nvram "-v maxmem=8192". This would limit the usable RAM to a maximum of 8GB (official Apple Max); however this also will cause a kernel panic during normal boot when 16GB RAM is physically loaded. A maxmem=2048 will allow the system to boot normally with 16GB RAM loaded; however only 2GB RAM will be usable.

  • If you load Ubuntu 12 onto the MacBook Pro (2010 i5 or i7) with 16GB RAM loaded, Ubuntu will boot OK and be able to see/address the 16GB RAM.

  • If you load Windows 7 onto the MacBook Pro (2010 i5 or i7) with 16GB RAM loaded, Windows 7 will boot OK and be able to see/address the 16GB RAM.
As far as I can tell, this appears to be an Apple SW limitation of some sort.

In any case, 8 GB should be enough to just run OS X I would hope.
 
The CPU doesn't have issues addressing RAM so long as it's 64-bit, but in this case I can indeed install 16 GB of RAM into it and it will show as such in Windows, but OS X won't boot with 16GB unless you force it to limit at 8 GB.

From the following source:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/42426/can-i-upgrade-my-macbook-mid-2010-to-16gb-of-ram-2x8g



In any case, 8 GB should be enough to just run OS X I would hope.

??? There's only one 2010 MacBook Pro that can support 16GB RAM, which happens to be 13". As you're quoting OWC, here it is direct from their website: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade/DDR3

Again, your mid 2010 17" MBP cannot support 16GB RAM. The CPU doesn't support more than 8. Have a look on Intel's website. Everymac confirm it won't go behind 8. Powerbookmedic confirm it won't go beyond 8. Even OWC, which you cited, confirmed your model won't go beyond 8.
 
aaaaaand now for the obligatory... is it stable enough for a daily laptop?
Depending on what apps you are using, I would say it is stable enough, in and of itself.
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Wow, didn't even consider this. I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro. Found a 525 GB SSD on Crucial for $129. Seems like a no brainer.

Does it really make it feel like a new computer? Thanks.

Thom
Yes.

I have a late 2011 MBP and upgraded to a Crucial 512 GB SSD. Having the SSD makes all the difference time wise and performance wise.
 
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