Apple Seeds Seventh Beta of macOS Sierra to Developers and Public Beta Testers

[cocky jeremy]

Do you have an SSD? El Cap runs like El Crap on a spinner. But max out the RAM, throw in an SSD, and you're laughing.

I will GLADLY take a smaller hard drive to stick with SSD. No comparison.

 

[enoxon]

Do you have an SSD? El Cap runs like El Crap on a spinner. But max out the RAM, throw in an SSD, and you're laughing.

+1 for this.
Installed the first beta on my early 2011 mbp, ran like crap but I mean really bad, to the point were I couldn't open a single tab in chrome. Then the second beta came out and it was way way faster and more reliable, although still kind of sluggish because of my 500gb SATA. About two weeks ago, bought a 256gb SSD and it runs really really great, feels definitely faster, especially when starting the mac and opening iTunes.
Just a sidenote, have a desktop with Win10, beta as well, aproximately same specs (even though my mac is better), still faster than my macbook opening nearly anything. Takes about 10 seconds opening Windows, my mac takes nearly 30 opening macOS.

 

[fischersd]

How did you install it? Official requirements are 2010 MacBook Pro or later.

If you pop over to the https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-10-12-sierra-unsupported-macs-thread.1977128/ people can help get you rolling. Basically, you setup PB1 from a patched USB boot/installer, then use another utility to patch the update .dist that App Store pulls down and download and install the latest beta (now being PB6) - or you can go the DP1 - DP7 route if you want the Dev betas.
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Is the "Unlock using Apple Watch" feature supposed to be really random? It only seems to be working if I've been off / away from my MacBook 12-inch for extended periods of time. If the screen locks (takes five minutes on battery, fifteen minutes on power) it seems to never auto-unlock using my Apple Watch.

Heh - I'm having the opposite - if it's just recently locked, it opens no problem. Go away a couple hours - nope.
I'm using my energy settings to dim it after 5 minutes, then having security lock it 1 minute after. It also seemed more erratic when using the screen saver, as opposed to energy saver.

 

[Digitalclips]

I think El Capitan is where it ends for my 2010 17" MBP.

This doesn't seem to run all too smoothly for it. Windows 7/10 already runs a lot quicker than El Cap as it is, sadly.

macOS Sierra developer version 7 running really well (faster than 10.11) on a mid 2010 MBP I have, in fact what I am typing on now It also runs great on my 2013 new Mac Pro and a 2016 MacBook Air and a mac Mini from 2014.

 

[Phil in ocala]

Apple today released the seventh beta of macOS Sierra, the newest operating system designed for the Mac, to developers and public beta testers. macOS Sierra beta 7 comes one week after the release of the sixth beta and two months after the software was first unveiled at Apple's 2016 Worldwide Developers Conference.

Developers and public beta testers can download today's update through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store. Developers can also download the beta from the Apple Developer Center.

macOS Sierra is a major update that brings Siri to the Mac for the first time, allowing users to conduct voice searches to quickly find files, look up information, and more. New Continuity features offer an "Auto Unlock" option for unlocking a Mac with an Apple Watch and a "Universal Clipboard" for copying text on one Apple device and pasting it on another.

Deeper iCloud integration allows files stored on the desktop or the Documents folder of a Mac to be accessed on all of a user's devices, and Photos features deep learning algorithms for improved facial, object, and scene recognition. There's also a Memories feature for displaying photo collections, and Messages has rich links, bigger emoji, and "Tapback" response options.

Apple Pay is coming to the web in macOS Sierra, with payments authenticated through an iPhone or Apple Watch, and new features like multiple tabs, Picture in Picture multitasking, optimized storage, and revamped emoji are also available.

Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.​

macOS Sierra is currently available to developers and public beta testers, and it will see a wider public release this fall. For full details on all of the new features included in macOS Sierra, make sure to check out our macOS Sierra roundup.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Seventh Beta of macOS Sierra to Developers and Public Beta Testers

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Oh...more EMOJIs...just what everyone has been screaming about...give us more....we don't need an update to copy paste...unchanged in 20 years...we don't need a right click to delete anything.....just more and more and more EMOJIs...thats it.....Apple Developer Geeks know just what the world wants in the new OS.

 

[fischersd]

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Oh...more EMOJIs...just what everyone has been screaming about...give us more....we don't need an update to copy paste...unchanged in 20 years...we don't need a right click to delete anything.....just more and more and more EMOJIs...thats it.....Apple Developer Geeks know just what the world wants in the new OS.

Well, they have to do SOMETHING when they're not working on new watch bands.

 

[Crazy Badger]

I'm genuinely amased how stable these DP releases have been, right from DP1.

I've had no major issues, either with the OS or the Apps running on it, other than a few needing beta updates.

Wouldn't have had any issues running this on my daily MBA.

 

[MacLC]

Did they fix the Language & Region settings yet?

Is that broken again? For me that was broken after Beta 2 in Yosemite and not fixed until El Capitan over a year later. Had to go back to Mavericks. Hope Sierra works...

FWIW, "sierra" just means mountain, right? CA has the Sierra Nevada and Sierra Madre Mountains. Just calling it Sierra sounds kind of dopy. Unless of course the next iterations are Earth, Wind, and Fire...

 

[iRock1]

This. I still use Snow Leopard to get things done.

How do you manage to get it done? I would do exactly the same if it wasn't for the fact that most apps already dumped support for older versions of OS X. That and the fact that I can't use iCloud with Snow Leopard.

 

[pierofrezza]

Can somebody please tell me the download links of the public beta 6? I'm not at home, so I can't upgrade, I can just download the upgrade files to a USB stick...thanks!

 

[Candlelight]

Junos Pulse killed my previous laptop, a loaded 2013 MacBook Pro, to the point where I had to cleanse it of the app before it worked again. Never again.

Interesting. I've never had that issue.

 

[marshall2553]

Yes!! I am too! I'm glad I'm not the only one. I've tried searching and I couldn't find anyone else who talked about it, so was starting to lean towards maybe the graphics card was flaking out. I'm glad to see someone else having the same issue I am. I also get it in Safari along the tab bar when scrolling on a webpage, but I also get the notification center diagonal glitch too. Hopefully Apple with get this sorted out before the GM.

I've been seeing this too on the last few public betas, I was starting to worry that it was a hardware issue on my MacBook.

 

[einsteinbqat]

Is that broken again? For me that was broken after Beta 2 in Yosemite and not fixed until El Capitan over a year later. Had to go back to Mavericks. Hope Sierra works...

FWIW, "sierra" just means mountain, right? CA has the Sierra Nevada and Sierra Madre Mountains. Just calling it Sierra sounds kind of dopy. Unless of course the next iterations are Earth, Wind, and Fire...

No

Ever since the first Sierra beta, you cannot select a different format language from the system preferred language. The same is happening with iOS 10 betas. So I held off from Sierra for now, but installed iOS 10.

Screen shots from El Capitan

 

[hsotnicam8002]

 

[antmarobel]

Ha!! I'm just listening to Mama Cass, Dream a Little Dream at this very moment!!!

 

[jase1125]

Again that's the 13". I'll look into what you've said though.
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See, that's what I thought too. Plus Windows or Mac — even Wintel laptops with the 540M won't post with 16GB RAM. Certainly in my experience, anyway.

Everybody keeps telling me I'm wrong; no, the 17" 2010 can support 16GB RAM, as long as it's not running OS X; but every thread they link me to as 'proof' is talking about the 13", which I've already mentioned does support 16GB RAM. I feel like I'm missing out on the joke here.

Can somebody please settle this once and for all?

Again that's the 13". I'll look into what you've said though.
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See, that's what I thought too. Plus Windows or Mac — even Wintel laptops with the 540M won't post with 16GB RAM. Certainly in my experience, anyway.

Everybody keeps telling me I'm wrong; no, the 17" 2010 can support 16GB RAM, as long as it's not running OS X; but every thread they link me to as 'proof' is talking about the 13", which I've already mentioned does support 16GB RAM. I feel like I'm missing out on the joke here.

Can somebody please settle this once and for all?

If you will go BEYOND the first post you will see images further down of a mid 2010 17" Macbook Pro i7 with 16GB RAM posted.
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Don't even bother to reply, they just don't get it. You're 100% correct, 2010 15 and 17 Never Ever supported 16 GB in Windows or anything else. The 13 inch did, as we all knew, and it was (still is?) a MAJOR point of contention for many people thinking how could their larger beefier pro modes be outclassed by the smaller pro.

Yes you are blind leading the blind.
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Thank you very much for your reassurance. I thought I was going crazy and was convinced I was overlooking something obvious that they were saying. Two posters were calling me out on it, saying the same thing. One I can understand. But two?

I just didn't understand how it could work. It couldn't. The chip just doesn't support it. No other source confirmed it either. Well at least I know now that simply two posters are peddling the same misinformation.

Thank you again.

It works with the i7 cpu. Blind leading the blind isn't reassurance.
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Again that's the 13". I'll look into what you've said though.
[doublepost=1471932046][/doublepost]

See, that's what I thought too. Plus Windows or Mac — even Wintel laptops with the 540M won't post with 16GB RAM. Certainly in my experience, anyway.

Everybody keeps telling me I'm wrong; no, the 17" 2010 can support 16GB RAM, as long as it's not running OS X; but every thread they link me to as 'proof' is talking about the 13", which I've already mentioned does support 16GB RAM. I feel like I'm missing out on the joke here.

Can somebody please settle this once and for all?

Follow the thread down to the post by BFER. Here is what he posted:

 

[MKPM]

Absolutely! I have a 2011 MacBook Pro which I updated with a 1TB SSD and 16 GB RAM. It runs the macOS Sierra Beta amazingly and I even run with 2-3 developer VMs with Windows 10 and Linux at the same time!

I am going to make this computer last until a 32GB+ TB3 MacBook Pro finally arrives.

You have the exact same config as I. I also have Windows 10 on another partition.

 

[MacGizmo]

I hope Siri can be disabled. I don't want to talk to my computer and I don't want it listening. While some may find this convenient, it seems to me that it could be riddled with privacy issues.

Of course it can. It's a preference panel option. And, it doesn't "listen" to you like the iPhone does. It only turns on when you hit the icon or keyboard shortcut.

 

[MKPM]

Of course it can. It's a preference panel option. And, it doesn't "listen" to you like the iPhone does. It only turns on when you hit the icon or keyboard shortcut.

It can be set to respond to "Hey Siri" from the lock screen. This is according to the feature list for what is hoped to be the final.

 

[arkmannj]

Did anyone else notice that Apple removed the option to open apps from anywhere?
(It only shows "App Store" & "App Store and Identified Developers" now)

Edit: after some investigation, you can still enable/disable the "anywhere" functionality via the command-line, and can sort of do it by secondary-click on an app and select Open. (although that still seems to run the gatekeeper certificate check, I get the checking certificate status bar using that method)

 

[tywebb13]

It only turns on when you hit the icon or keyboard shortcut.

It can be activated via Hey Siri voice command. I made a thread with instructions here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-enable-hey-siri-activation-on-a-mac-with-sierra.1983003/

 

[rcappo]

If you have an iPhone and MacBook next to each other, will both respond to the Hey Siri voice command? Is there a way to prefer one over the other?
[doublepost=1472075983][/doublepost]I haven't upgraded yet, but my biggest issue will be getting my USB 3 expressport card to work on a Mid-2010 MacBook Pro. I also use the eyeTV app to watch TV which I will need to check too. I'm sure everything else will be fine.

 

[tywebb13]

As I said in my Hey Siri thread you can change it to anything you want - so long as it is at least two words.

You might want to do that if you don't want it to be activated on your iPhone too.

 

[stefandc]

I just upgraded to this. Since doing so, my right hand command key has become an option key.

As someone who uses all the keys on the keyboard, this is extremely obnoxious.

has anyone else noticed this / found a fix for it? Googling reveals no solutions.
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I just upgraded to this. Since doing so, my right hand command key has become an option key.

As someone who uses all the keys on the keyboard, this is extremely obnoxious.

has anyone else noticed this / found a fix for it? Googling reveals no solutions.

So, I actually ended up solving this with System Prefs > Keyboard > Modifier Keys > Restore Defaults

Has anyone else run across it?

 

[Glenn.955]

Ha!! I'm just listening to Mama Cass, Dream a Little Dream at this very moment!!!

Step away from the ham sandwich!

(Yeah - I know it is a myth)