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Apple Seeds Sixth Beta of iOS 11.4 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

Radon87000 said:
Those milliseconds add up to seconds over multiple releases. And thats in addition to those small stuttery animations which are not there on iOS 10. iOS 11 stutters at least twice or thrice in animations on a daily basis. iOS 10 has zero stutters. Its also designed with home button devices in mind. Hence why even the iPad home button is faster on iOS 10 than 11
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Posting on MR on how the milliseconds turns into seconds, negates any slowness at all if you are looking at the totality of your life as to where your time is spent.

Having said that, I am more concerned about a fully patched phone, than any millisecond difference between any two IOS releases. I don't have any animation stutters on my phone running ios 11.4b6 in any screen I am on, which admittedly is not every screen in every nook and cranny of IOS(I only care about what I use, not what I don't use). Each persons experience is different and has been reported differently through the ages here on MacRumors.
 
Radon87000 said:
Its always been this way. iOS 8 was awesome. iOS 9 was horrible. iOS 10 fixed iOS 9. Likewise iOS 12 will fix iOS 11. iOS 11 is sadly even below the bar set by Apple themselves for low quality releases.
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And yet people still feel fairly different about the same things:
Bacillus said:
I have one on iOS 9.3.3 - which is near flawless. For anything else indeed 2 Gb would have been better.
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C DM said:
And yet people still feel fairly different about the same things:
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But it clearly isn't. It was a massive fail by Apple. They advertised it as a performance release when performance was horrible when it launched. Metal API was causing stutters in games. Load times were atrocious. iOS 10 was when they realised what they set out to do in iOS 9. iOS 11 finished releases still feel like a beta release to me.
 
Radon87000 said:
But it clearly isn't. It was a massive fail by Apple. They advertised it as a performance release when performance was horrible when it launched. Metal API was causing stutters in games. iOS 10 was when they realised what they set out to do in iOS 9. iOS 11 finished releases still feel like a beta release to me.
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And yet clearly not everyone agrees.
 
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Radon87000 said:
But it clearly isn't. It was a massive fail by Apple. They advertised it as a performance release when performance was horrible when it launched. Metal API was causing stutters in games. Load times were atrocious. iOS 10 was when they realised what they set out to do in iOS 9. iOS 11 finished releases still feel like a beta release to me.
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Exact same pattern that is the benchmark of every iOS release, with similar patterns of thoughts across macrumors covering all end of the spectrum.

I liked iOS 11 from the get-go. Nothing was atrocious about iOS 11. A stop Watch was necessary to find out how “slow it really was”.
 
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I7guy said:
Exact same pattern that is the benchmark of every iOS release, with similar patterns of thoughts across macrumors covering all end of the spectrum.
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iOS 10.0 was better than iOS 11.4 It was well optimised and more rounded and stable. Each and every release slows down the device but some releases are worse than the others. The point which cannot be argued at the end of the day is the fact that the devices do not recover the speed they were shipped with

I liked iOS 11 from the get-go. Nothing was atrocious about iOS 11. A stop Watch was necessary to find out how “slow it really was”.
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We went from laughing up the millisecond slowdown to a damn 6-7 seconds to open the YouTube app on an Air 2 on iOS 11 compared to iOS 8. Its going the iPad Mini way at this point. iPhone 6 was never this slow. iOS 11 was like a punch in the gut for these devices. Apple isn't updating them to iOS 12 out of the goodness of their hearts. They acknowledge iOS 11 is complete **** and iOS 12 will be when these devices ride off into the sunset hopefully with some of their lost glory regained
 
Radon87000 said:
iOS 10.0 was better than iOS 11.4 It was well optimised and more rounded and stable. Each and every release slows down the device but some releases are worse than the others. The point which cannot be argued at the end of the day is the fact that the devices do not recover the speed they were shipped with


We went from laughing up the millisecond slowdown to a damn 6-7 seconds to open the YouTube app on an Air 2 on iOS 11 compared to iOS 8. Its going the iPad Mini way at this point. iPhone 6 was never this slow. iOS 11 was like a punch in the gut for these devices. Apple isn't updating them to iOS 12 out of the goodness of their hearts. They acknowledge iOS 11 is complete **** and iOS 12 will be when these devices ride off into the sunset hopefully with some of their lost glory regained
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Okay do you discussing your iPads. My iPhones are fine on iOS 11. Always been the case different strokes different folks, so to speak.
 
Seeing a massive drain on battery life on iPhoneX since updating - 30-40% worse battery life than previous beta.
 
andycarver said:
“Older messages and attachments are also stored in iCloud rather than on-device, forcing you to pay for iCloud storage.
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You can get 50GB of iCloud for $1 and with family sharing, you can spread whatever you buy over a few family members.

In the context of a $1000 phone and a monthly cell phone bill that probably costs between $50-$100 per line, a dollar to ensure all of your data is safely backed up is pretty insignificant in financial scope.
 
I7guy said:
Okay do you discussing your iPads. My iPhones are fine on iOS 11. Always been the case different strokes different folks, so to speak.
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Whichever device you choose, it's slower on iOS 11. Battery life, performance,stability. It's inferior in every metric.
 
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Radon87000 said:
But it clearly isn't. It was a massive fail by Apple. They advertised it as a performance release when performance was horrible when it launched. Metal API was causing stutters in games. Load times were atrocious. iOS 10 was when they realised what they set out to do in iOS 9. iOS 11 finished releases still feel like a beta release to me.
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Let’s not devolve into hyperbole. It’s a fail, but not a massive one.
 
I7guy said:
I’ll take iOS 11 over iOS 10. The only metric that counts is, IMO, it’s a better release. iOS 11.4 will be the release that people say iOS 10 should have been. IMO.
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How is it better? You keep saying security but what good is security at the cost of performance? And thats really a bad excuse considering the fact that Microsoft and Google support multiple versions of their OS at the same time with security patches.

There is nothing new in iOS 11 which excuses the performance drop and battery drain. Absolutely nothing. All I see is a bolder font and no labels below the dock and some visual tweaks like the blurred desktop icons when reachability is used in any app. iOS 10 added more features and wasn't as demanding as iOS 11.
 
DipDog3 said:
You can get 50GB of iCloud for $1 and with family sharing, you can spread whatever you buy over a few family members.

In the context of a $1000 phone and a monthly cell phone bill that probably costs between $50-$100 per line, a dollar to ensure all of your data is safely backed up is pretty insignificant in financial scope.
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You at least need the 200 gb storage option for sharing, I believe.
 
Radon87000 said:
How is it better? You keep saying security but what good is security at the cost of performance? And thats really a bad excuse considering the fact that Microsoft and Google support multiple versions of their OS at the same time with security patches.

There is nothing new in iOS 11 which excuses the performance drop and battery drain. Absolutely nothing. All I see is a bolder font and no labels below the dock and some visual tweaks like the blurred desktop icons when reachability is used in any app. iOS 10 added more features and wasn't as demanding as iOS 11.
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I don’t see any performance degradation on my iPhone 5s, 6s, 7 or 6s+. No stutters, battery drain, just works as they say.
 
11.4 is so horrible just look at the ram management on an iPhone X. It's horrible. It needed to reload almost every app. Beaten by a One Plus 6 and this also replicates my observations on my iPhone X. iOS 12 can't get here fast enough. We even have EverythingApplePro admitting ram management is extremely poor in iOS 11.

 
Radon87000 said:
11.4 is so horrible just look at the ram management on an iPhone X. It's horrible. It needed to reload almost every app. Beaten by a One Plus 6 and this also replicates my observations on my iPhone X. iOS 12 can't get here fast enough. We even have EverythingApplePro admitting ram management is extremely poor in iOS 11.

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Wow that sucks. iPhones used to win these tests.
 
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Radon87000 said:
What's even more hilarious is that in one of the speed tests, an iPhone 7 running iOS 10 handily defeated an iPhone 8 running iOS 11. That's how much of a fail iOS 11 is.
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Anecdotal things can indeed be hilarious.
 
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Radon87000 said:
11.4 is so horrible just look at the ram management on an iPhone X. It's horrible. It needed to reload almost every app. Beaten by a One Plus 6 and this also replicates my observations on my iPhone X. iOS 12 can't get here fast enough. We even have EverythingApplePro admitting ram management is extremely poor in iOS 11.

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Hard to believe you still have an iPhone after this anecdotal video came out.
 
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